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I'm usually not the biggest fan of 3d fighters (like tekken or VF, ew) but I can't help but love Soul Calibur.
You didn't use it loosely. You used it and argued with me for ten minutes in chat about it. Then I message a guy who beats scrubs in fighting games for a living to show you I'm not talking out of my ass, and you say because he doesn't main the character we're discussing he has no understanding of the metagame and matchups which you clearly possess.
The way I define "high tier" is, the character has the potential to be viable in tournament. Not only are there results to back up my argument, but even Pepeday himself has given his list of matchups for Fuerte. Not only does he say Fuerte only has 7 matchups where he loses 6/4 at the worst, but the rest of his matchups are either even, or in Fuerte's favor (examples include against Akuma, Fei Long, Evil Ryu, Cammy, Sagat, Poison, etc). Pepeday, the Fuerte player, said this.
The only thing you've done to help your "argument" is getting the opinion from a player who (while having knowledge of the metagame) does NOT play that character. No words in my previous posts point to me saying KnuckleDu has no understanding of the metagame or matchups. He most certainly does not know Fuerte like Pepeday does, that's what I'm getitng at. I know Link and Sheik very well, does that mean I know where a character like villager belongs on a tier list? Or what his matchups are like overall? No. So yes, you are blowing things out of your rear, you mad bro?
The difference is, Link has been steadily nerfed through Smash iterations and no Link has ever won a major, let alone three. While Fuerte not only received SIGNIFICANT buffs from AE 2012 to Ultra (both direct character buffs that do NOT end at just knockback buffs, but in other areas as well AND the system changes themselves helped Fuerte and other characters as well), but this character has now been seen as a viable tournament threat by winning three majors and two other top Fuertes placing consistently in top 8/top 16 at US majors. Has this ever happened before Ultra Street Fighter 4? No, and that's what I'm getitng at. Fuerte is now a character that obviously has the potential to be viable in tournament, and that's why I say he should be considered high tier. Not top tier, high tier. There's a difference.
No, and that's a lot of words from someone who's not worked up. That wall's so big a country could surround themselves with it to keep Mongolians and capitalism out.
That's why. You need to look at consistent results over a longer period of time and matchup spread. Viability is moot when discussing tiers. So he's not actually high tier, but I'll agree that he's viable in a tournament depending on how you're seeded.
https://youtu.be/bQdp_BUU96M?t=564
This is like telling me yesterday that Pepeday has good wakeup options thanks to delayed wakeup. I have to stop arguing the rest of your points and just ask a question right here because I feel this exposes a fundamental misunderstanding of the game and its mechanics at high levels of play. How consistently do you win or place top 8 in your local scenes? Who are your top players?
Whoa whoa whoa wait, Metroid Prime Hunters has/had a competitive scene?
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you make a valid point about using consistent results over a longer period of time. Seems it only makes sense to wait a year or two to see what happens (unless Capcom decided to do another massive update, although I doubt that will happen).
Not really but it could be played competitively.
Funny, cause I'm not banned.
If you're not banned you shouldn't be using an alt account. Ironically, you can get banned for that. If you lost your password as an admin.
This is no alt account. she let me borrow her smashboards for only today is all. I don't want her banned. But I do have a account here that's not on the Link boards. Yet.
I remember when War Gods for N64 came out. Me and a friend rented it and played until it hurt. We then wrapped bandaids around our thumbs so we could keep playing.I watched the South Park episode Red Man's Greed. That is some funny ****. Mature humor though.
Edit, damn I'm bored but am trying not to use my thumb for video games. I didn't play for a while then played too much last weekend and started getting a sore.
Excellent! Neither of you will be missed, and your next account will be subject to the same ban the second you open your trap if you don't have something worthwhile to contribute... of which I am extremely doubtful.
OK mr.pure what ever you say.
Dat grab game tho. Imagine if he had THAT in Smash.
I find it hard to believe "she" would say that since your account was just registered a few days ago.
Oh, well I guess that makes sense now. Though to be fair, I really didn't see some of his stuff as gibberish, seeing as I hang out in the Robin social thread and trust me, some crazy stuff goes on there. I mean, one of his post he was sawing how awesome Link was, though he did say it in a weird why so I guess.....
Oh, I know. What I meant was he can't use it to the extent that he used to.
Fantastic! It's not morning here though.Good morning Link boards! How are we all today?
Okay except my thumb is sore. I've been watching this speedrun of Melee's events:Good morning Link boards! How are we all today?
I am decent. Enjoying some Baja blaaaast whilst enjoying French filmsGood morning Link boards! How are we all today?
Morning. I am fine myself. Pretty ordinary day today. You?Good morning Link boards! How are we all today?
Blame the time differences man. That's all I will say.
So he 4 stocked himself? That's just sad.
Poor kid was so bored/lonely that he had to make an alt to talk to himself on a forum.
I'm good. Making BBQ for my wife's birthday. Also, my tourney is this sat and I'll be streaming it for the first time, so quite busy and excited. How about you? What brings you to our halls?Good morning Link boards! How are we all today?
I had a feeling this was an alt account...
