Let's toast those Smashers! ~ Spyro Reignites Super Smash Brothers

[TCT~Phantom]

So, it seems that some research had been done in regards to what went wrong with Enter the Dragonfly.

Spoiler

In summary, it's official: not only did Universal not really care, they had no idea what they were doing. They had no business owning game IPs.

It’s a perfect storm of everything that could go wrong with a game. Easily one of the worst games of all time.

 

[zumaddy]

Dunno if this thread is still active, but I'd love to be added as a supporter. Spyro 3 is one of my fave games and Spyro's moveset translates so easily to Smash!

 

[Yokta]

Crash seems to be a likely candidate for the next pass, and I'm hoping Spyro follows him immediately after

 

[Yokta]

I just had an amazing idea for a casual gimmick on Spyro's stage.

Every so often, a crystal dragon appears on the battlefield. Once a fighter touches it, they will free the dragon trapped inside, who will then briefly assist the fighter who freed them.

Recruiting dragons is similar to recruiting the Flying Men in Magicant. However, the dragons behave more like Assist Trophies than actual fighters: each dragon has a unique effect, and they can be KO'd for a point. Once a dragon has served their purpose, they say "Thank you for releasing me" before heading out.

Spoiler: Examples of dragon effects

Dragons from Spyro 1:

• Nestor: Summons a giant hammer of fire and swings it down on the fighters.
• Gavin: Brews coffee for his fighter, giving them multiple bursts of mild healing and speed buffs.
• Nils: Crafts a random item, and passes it directly to his fighter when they touch him. Nils can craft up to three items before leaving, and he will drop his item when KO'd.
• Magnus: Slowly flies into the air and slams into the ground, dealing heavy damage to fighters he lands on and tripping all grounded fighters.
• Conan: Attacks with his lance, behaving exactly like Corrin's Side-B.
• Ulric: Charges at fighters with his shield. Invulnerable from the front.
• Cosmos: Uses magic to command-grab fighters and fling them skyward.
• Eldrid: Throws explosive potions with random debuffs.
• Altair: Gazes deep into his crystal ball to predict the future. He will brutally counter physical attacks and reflect projectiles that hit him while he's looking at his crystal ball, but he is vulnerable if his gaze is elsewhere.
• Bruno: Summons warthogs to charge into the fighters. The warthogs are invulnerable.
• Cyprin: Lies on the spot, making no effort to move. He will swipe at approaching fighters with his hands, feet and wings, dealing deceptively high damage.
• Bubba: Rushes in and attacks with a flurry of bare fists.
• Jed: Flies up and out of reach, and throws bananas at the enemy fighters below
• Lateef: Summons an illusion of his fighter to fight alongside them. The illusion only deals half damage, but it is also invulnerable.
• Bakari: Controls a cloud of magic in the shape of a sheep. Enemy fighters who touch this cloud will immediately fall asleep.
• Useni: Attacks with electric spinning kicks.

Dragons from other games (rare):

• Nanny: From Spyro: A Hero's Tail. Hugs her fighter, healing them significantly.
• Ignitus: From the Legend of Spyro. Surrounds himself with a powerful vortex of fire and approaches the enemy fighters.
• Flashwing: From Skylanders. Attacks with beams of light.
• Komodo Moe: From Crash Bandicoot. Lobs scimitars at the fighters.
• Rathalos, Tiki or Dragon-type Pokémon may be freed, behaving as though they were summoned by Assist Trophy or Pokeball.
• Ridley, Corrin or Spyro may be freed if they aren't participating in the fight.

In the Hazards Off, Battlefield and Omega versions of the stage, the dragons will simply watch from the sidelines.

 

[Deleted member]

Great ideas for moves for Spyro.

 

[Yokta]

You know something funny? If Spyro joined Smash, and was accompanied by Cynder as an echo, that would technically make Cynder the first Australian made character in Smash.

It's true. The Legend of Spyro: A New Beginning was developed by Krome Studios, an Australian developer. They also developed Ty the Tasmanian Tiger.

It'd be pretty amusing if the protagonist of Hollow Knight was added as a Mii costume in the same wave as Spyro and Cynder. Imagine the bewilderment.

 

[Deleted member]

Is that so?

That's pretty cool if true.

 

[Ed-boy]

Surprise! I got the Reignited Trilogy for Christmas & I've been having a total ball with it since then (currently playing Year of the Dragon for the first time).
Any desire I already had for seeing the purple pyromaniac in Smash has hit an all-time high. A moveset would be ridiculously straight-forward between Spyro's natural dragon abilities, the various elemental breaths, & v e h i c l e s. Plus, we could always use more toons in this mascot fighter.

In short, I'd like to be added to the support list!

 

[Yokta]

I just had another idea. What if Spyro's stage had an alternate version, like Boxing Ring, with retro graphics, low-poly crystal dragons, and music from the original games instead of the Reignited soundtrack?

 

[Deleted member]

Yeah I'd love that.

 

[Proceleon]

I found this thread again! XD
Okay, I got some ideas for Spirits and Music Spyro could bring with him.

Spoiler: Spirits

Spyro - Fighter
Sparx - Tiny★
Nestor - Giant★
Thief - ★
Gnasty Gnorc - (spawning afterwards)★★★★
Elora - ★★
Professor - ★★
Hunter - ★★
Ripto - Ore Club(spawning afterwards)★★★★
Sheila - Bunny Hood★★★
Sgt. Byrd - Rocket Belt★★★
Agent 9 - Ray Gun★★★
Bentley - Ore Club★★★
Sorceress - Star Rod★★★★
Blink - Ray Gun★★★
Red - Staff(spawning afterwards)★★★★

Spoiler: Music

Main Title - Spyro: Reignited Trilogy
Main Title - Spyro the Dragon
Artisans - Spyro: Reignited Trilogy
Stone Hill - Spyro: Reignited Trilogy
Dark Hollow - Spyro the Dragon
Alpine Ridge - Spyro the Dragon
Wizard Peak - Spyro: Reignited Trilogy
Tree Tops - Spyro: Reignited Trilogy
Wild Flight - Spyro the Dragon
Gnorc Cove - Spyro: Reignited Trilogy
Colossus - Spyro: Reignited Trilogy
Aquaria Towers - Spyro: Gateway to Glimmer
Zephyr - Spyro: Reignited Trilogy
Skelos Badlands - Spyro: Gateway to Glimmer
Midnight Mountain - Spyro: Reignited Trilogy
Sheila's Alp - Spyro: Year of the Dragon
Sgt. Byrd's Base - Spyro: Year of the Dragon
Bentley's Outpost - Spyro: Year of the Dragon
Agent 9's Lab - Spyro: Year of the Dragon
Fireworks Factory - Spyro: Year of the Dragon
Sorceress's Lair - Spyro: Reignited Trilogy

 

[KirbyWorshipper2465]

For those wondering if the Toys For Bob staff is okay:

We may be working from home, but we're still making games! Happy Friday from our family to yours ♥️ #inthistogether #WFH #LifeAtTFB pic.twitter.com/1BxdwkLNRD

— Toys For Bob (@ToysForBob) March 27, 2020

 

[Proceleon]

Yo, what to you think Spyro's Classic mode route would be?
I'm having a hard time coming up with one myself.

 

[Mario & Sonic Guy]

While I'm having a difficult time thinking about how Spyro could play out, I can think of some possible spirits. Of course, they all pretty much come from the original trilogy.

Fighter Spirits

1. Spyro

Primary Spirits

1. Gnasty Gnorc - Shield Type - Novice Class - 2 Slots - Weight ↑
2. Elora - Neutral Type - Advanced Class - 3 Slots
3. Ripto - Attack Type - Ace Class - 3 Slots - Magic Attack ↑
4. Bianca - Grab Type - Ace Class - 3 Slots - Item Gravitation
5. Sorceress - Neutral Type - Legend Class - 1 Slot - Super Armor

Support Spirits

1. Sparx - Novice Class - Stamina ↑
2. Zoe - Advanced Class - Fairy Bottle Equipped
3. Hunter - Advanced Class - Weapon Attack ↑
4. Crush & Gulp - Advanced Class - Stats ↑ after Eating
5. Agent 9 - Advanced Class - Ray Gun Equipped

Notes
In regards to the spirit classes for the major villains, Gnasty Gnorc is considered a Novice class spirit, due to being nothing more than a big joke; practically the least threatening of the three major villains. Ripto and Sorceress are far more credible threats, however, which is why they're given the Ace and Legend classes respectively; Sorceress gets Legend for being arguably the darkest (and the most threatening to Spyro and his race) of the three major villains.

 

[Proceleon]

I'm gonna try making a moveset here.

Entrance: Spyro flies in, does a loop then lands, mimicking his usual level entrance from Spyro the Dragon.
Jab Combo: A basic headbutt, then a horn swipe to the side, followed by a tail swing and a horn strike upwards to launch. His melee combo in Legend of Spyro.
U-Tilt: A sweeping headbutt covering Spyro's front and top. This is the Horn Toss from Shadow Legacy.
S-Tilt: A strong jab forwards with his horns. This is the Horn Jab from Shadow Legacy.
D-Tilt: Sweeps low with his tail. This is the Tail Swipe from Shadow Legacy.
Dash Attack: A quick charge forward with his horns referencing Shadow Legacy's Horn Slide move.
U-Smash: Charges a ball of flame launched into the air in an arc. The longer the charge, the more distance the ball gets. The Fire Bomb from A Hero's Tail.
S-Smash: Charges a fireball that travels directly forwards. Charging affects the distance. His fire breath from Skylanders.
D-Smash: Leaps briefly into the air with a wind-box dragging inwards, then follows with a powerful Head Bash move on the ground.
N-Air: A circular spin with his horns referencing his Pole Spin in A Hero's Tail.
U-Air: A multi-hit drilling motion with his tail upwards. The Tail Thunder from Shadow Legacy.
F-Air: Swings downwards with his tail with a meteor effect on the tip. Shadow Legacy's Tail Hammer.
D-Air: Stops and spins in midair and drops down in a Head Bash.
B-Air: A quick turn in the air with a small fire breath behind him.
Ledge Attack: Pulls himself up and does a sideways attack with his wing.
N-Special: His standard fire breath. Weakens the longer the button is held.
U-Special: Briefly gains the Super Flight powerup and dashes in a chosen direction. Can be steered.
S-Special: Gains Supercharge and rushes forwards. Turning, jumping or shielding cancels the charge.
D-Special: Gains Ice Breath and blasts in front of him with ice, freezing opponents.
Pummel: Grabs the opponent in his mouth and pummels them with small bursts of flame.
All throws are simple tosses of his head followed by a gush of fire.
U-Taunt: Sparx flies around Spyro as he looks around.
S-Taunt: Stretches his front legs out in the cat-like pose he does in Reignited Trilogy.
D-Taunt: Turns to the camera and winks.
Spyro's dodges are the sideways roll from Spyro the Dragon.
Spyro's shielding is his Wing Shield from Enter the Dragonfly.
FINAL SMASH: Spyro gains Super Flame and fires multiple huge waves of fire.

 

[Mario & Sonic Guy]

This is mostly just a continuation of my spirit concepts. In this case, I wanted to input the stat spreads for the primary spirit ideas that I posted earlier.

Spirit | Type | Class | Slots | Ability | Min. Power | Max. Power | Min. Attack | Max. Attack | Min. Defense | Max. Defense
Gnasty Gnorc | Shield | Novice | 2 | Weight ↑ | 1060 | 5300 | 300 | 1500 | 700 | 3500
Elora | Neutral | Advanced | 3 | [None] | 1600 | 6400 | 700 | 2800 | 900 | 3600
Ripto | Attack | Ace | 3 | Magic Attack ↑ | 3074 | 9222 | 1600 | 4800 | 1300 | 3900
Bianca | Grab | Ace | 3 | Item Gravitation | 2862 | 8586 | 1000 | 3000 | 1700 | 5100
Sorceress | Neutral | Legend | 1 | Super Armor | 4896 | 12240 | 2040 | 5100 | 2040 | 5100

 

[StrangeKitten]

We don't have many quadrupeds in Smash. Makes sense; their body type is probably hard to work with. But Spyro is practically made for Smash!

 

[Yokta]

A fun gimmick idea:

If Spyro is accompanied by Sparx and hit with an instant KO attack, Sparx will take the full force of the attack and disappear. Spyro will instead receive fixed knockback, and his damage will be set to 99.9% if it isn't already above that.

 

[MattX20]

Spyro's main competition for a potential slot is with Crash, but given how Activision loves pairing the two up, it's entirely possible that even if Spyro isn't playable, the character could be a stage cameo or potentially akin to the summons from the Midgar stage and help you out. Still, Spyro being playable would be quite nice

 

[Proceleon]

Spyro's main competition for a potential slot is with Crash, but given how Activision loves pairing the two up, it's entirely possible that even if Spyro isn't playable, the character could be a stage cameo or potentially akin to the summons from the Midgar stage and help you out. Still, Spyro being playable would be quite nice

What if the reason they're doing 6 instead of 5... is to have both Crash and Spyro?

 

[Yokta]

What if the reason they're doing 6 instead of 5... is to have both Crash and Spyro?

My thoughts exactly.

I like to think Activision were approached to license Crash for Smash, and they managed to negotiate including Spyro in equal capacity.

 

[Deleted member]

That’d be awesome.

Think Crash has a better chance.

But man getting him and Spyro boy that’s just crazy.

Would be happy to see it.

 

[KirbyWorshipper2465]

What if the reason they're doing 6 instead of 5... is to have both Crash and Spyro?

Probably. On one hand, Spyro does terribly in Japan to this day. On the other, the Smash staff and Nintendo higher-ups do pay close attention to what Western fans want on occasion, and Spyro's GP remained intact in Japan's version of Nitro-Fueled.

Although I doubt they'd have two slots for the same company in the same pass, crazier things have happened.

 

[Proceleon]

That’d be awesome.

Think Crash has a better chance.

But man getting him and Spyro boy that’s just crazy.

Would be happy to see it.

Probably. On one hand, Spyro does terribly in Japan to this day. On the other, the Smash staff and Nintendo higher-ups do pay close attention to what Western fans want on occasion, and Spyro's GP remained intact in Japan's version of Nitro-Fueled.

Although I doubt they'd have two slots for the same company in the same pass, crazier things have happened.

Oh, there's no doubt Crash was always the Mario to Spyro's Luigi, but knowing Activision, I also wouldn't put it past them to insist on a double deal like that.
If Crash does get in first though, I imagine demand for Spyro would skyrocket. One would never feel right without the other.

 

[nirvanafan]

I really liked the crash games growing up but for some reason only recently got around to trying out the spyro series when reignited trilogy finally released on switch. Would really be cool to see both get in although crash is still priority to me personally.

I feel like spyro deserves another shot at popularity in Japan and I think most fighters have likely seen increased popularity in unpopular regions after getting in and i do not think spyro would be an exception although i am no expert on this type of thing.

 

[MattX20]

To tell the truth, I only ever owned the original PS1 game, never got to play Ripto's Rage, and only a small portion of Year of the Dragon. It wasn't until the Reignited Trilogy came out that I was able to play the trilogy proper and in it's entirety.

 

[True Blue Warrior]

Real talk though, if it weren’t for the botched localisation, Spyro’s original games would have easily sold around half a million in Japan.

Also, you really have to give credit to Reignited Trilogy for what it did with the adult dragons, making them more diverse in designs and really giving them more personality.

 

[KirbyWorshipper2465]

Here's a little something I came across:

Watching Godzilla vs Megaguirus a second time and I just now noticed that there’s Crash and Spyro plushes in the background of this fake TV show scene. Spyro’s inclusion is interesting considering he was never popular in Japan. pic.twitter.com/2HK0KnV0L8

— Bran Man (@Bdog505) April 9, 2020

 

[Proceleon]

I finally came up with a Classic Mode route!

Spyro Route: The Adventure Begins...
No prizes for guessing what it's based on.
Round 1: | Green Greens | ♪ Dark Hollow
Round 2: | Gerudo Valley | ♪ Dry Canyon
Round 3: | Summit | ♪ Wizard Peak
Round 4: | Brinstar | ♪ Wild Flight
Round 5: | StreetPass Quest | ♪ Dark Passage
Round 6: | Unova Pokemon League | ♪ Gnasty Gnorc
Bonus Round
Final Round: Master Hand & Crazy Hand | ♪ Main Theme (Spyro Reignited Trilogy)

 

[pupNapoleon]

I definitely do want the last two characters to be Crash and Spyro. I've been playing through the PSX Spyro trilogy, and with today's announcements, his game's coming to Switch. So I have hope for the both of them.

I had a loving dream that the next fighters pass would be revealed by Crash being fighter 5- and then Spyro would join in at the end to reveal a new fighters pass.

These two characters, thanks to Skylanders in large part, really both have completely different followings and reasonings. A 1-2 punch would have been... well, better than what happened. But that's a pretty easy goal to overcome.

 

[Deleted member]

Lots of good ideas for Spyro.

You guys have very great idea for classic mode and other stuff for Spyro.

 

[MonkeyDLenny]

What if Spyro had a Palutena's Guidance

Pit: Whoa! Check it out! A purple dragon!

Palutena: It's a rare sight to see indeed Pit! Purple dragons are only born once every ten generations, and Spyro here is the latest in that line!
Specifically, Spyro is what's known as an 'Artisan Dragon'

Pit: He's an artist? Do you think he takes commissions...?

Palutena: Well the art of combat is still art in and of itself I suppose. Spyro can do far more than just breathe fire, he'll also breathe ice and even electricity to win the battle! His headbutt will also send you flying off the edge if you're not careful.

Pit: I really don't want to be hit by those horns...

Viridi: What are you two gossiping about this time? Huh? Is that Spyro?

Pit: You know him too?

Viridi: I'd better know who he is, the other dragons never shut up about him! "Ohh! Spyro saved the Dragon Realm! Spyro saved the Skylands!" he's all they ever talk about!

Pit: You chat with dragons??

Viridi: I have a friends besides you two, you know...

Pit: HA! YOU JUST ADMITTED WE'RE FRIENDS!

Viridi: .......... [dial tone sound]

 

[Deleted member]

Nice one MonkeyDLenny Really likes that Palutena’s Guidance.

 

[KirbyWorshipper2465]

So, if Toys For Bob are indeed doing the next Crash game, does this mean that Vicarious Visions have been working on an upcoming Spyro game?

 

[RetrogamerMax]

So, if Toys For Bob are indeed doing the next Crash game, does this mean that Vicarious Visions have been working on an upcoming Spyro game?

I hope so. I played the Reignited Trilogy last year and it was my first taste of Spyro. I would love to play another Spyro game that is good.

 

[TCT~Phantom]

So, if Toys For Bob are indeed doing the next Crash game, does this mean that Vicarious Visions have been working on an upcoming Spyro game?

Could be Beenox or VV. I just hope we get more Spyro, Reignited was awesome.

 

[LukeRNG]

So, if Toys For Bob are indeed doing the next Crash game, does this mean that Vicarious Visions have been working on an upcoming Spyro game?

For now i believe they're making Tony Hawk 1+2 HD. Don't know how long Spyro 4 would take to be made.

 

[KirbyWorshipper2465]

Our purple boy is hinted to show up in Crash 4 at the end of this.

 

[Deleted member]

Spyro-Spyro in Crash 4 yes please.

 

[Yokta]

Classic Mode Route: In the World of Dragons
A series of battles in which Spyro fights battles with links to dragons, often involving a team battle with a draconian ally

R1: Spyro & Charizard vs Pikachu
R2: Spyro & Bowser vs Mario & Luigi
R3: Spyro & Ridley vs Samus & Dark Samus
R4: Spyro, Robin & Corrin vs Marth, Chrom & Lucina
R5: Spyro vs Ryu
R6: Spyro vs Hero x4

Boss Battle: Vs. Rathalos