Let's talk about these Phantom hits!

[ranmaru]

Yeah. Wobble's topic gave me an idea. Sure, Randall sometimes messes up my edgeguards... LOL. Randall's just saying "**** you doc".

Anyways, Here's why I'm making this.

I was playing Smuckers, at Rom3. He seems to be a good Pika. It was a close match, we were down to last stock, high percent, yada yada, and I fsmash. Whoo hoo he should be dead!

NO IT WAS A PHANTOM HIT AND THEN I DIED SOME HOW AGGHHHHh

 

[X1-12]

on FoD my marth got a shield poke F-smash and it phantomed

 

[The Tycon]

Once I landed 2 phantom rests in one match.

Ever had any phantom falcon punches?

 

[ranmaru]

No, I haven't, but a flying falcon punch that hit and phantomed would be soooooo hilarious.

(good example would be Scar and his double flying off stage falcon punch SOMEHOW being a phantom, that would make me die of laughter)

 

[Shoopman]

Phantom Fsmash with Marth should be an instant kill. It's as much of a tipper as you can possibly get.

 

[bossa nova ♪]

^ that

 

[Bones0]

Phantom Fsmash with Marth should be an instant kill. It's as much of a tipper as you can possibly get.

Their character should just disintegrate from existence (like Nana after Popo dies).

 

[bossa nova ♪]

lmaooooo ^that too hell yeah

 

[t3h Icy]

We should just ask Darc.

 

[ranmaru]

Their character should just disintegrate from existence (like Nana after Popo dies).

When I'm playing against icies, and I kill popo upwards but nana still lives [THAT *****] I like to time my Fsmash on her just right so that it seems as if I fsmashed her to non existence muahahahah.

 

[Metal Reeper]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tlNC6p1Tc9o

Best phantom hit ever.

Also, Phantoms do half the normal damage.

 

[joeplicate]

i'm also a big fan of reverse tippers with marth LOL

 

[JPOBS]

a phantom hit caused me a set (3rd game, over 100% upsmash) at ROM 3 pools

i hate this game.

 

[Dark Sonic]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lAgOYVOMnVI#t=2m6s

I was so sad.

So very very sad.

 

[N64]

don't phantom hits occur from hitbox and hurtbox being tangent to eachother and not actually touching? So, essientially you shouldn't have hit but the game decided to give you some damage anyways. Personally I'd rather have a phantom hit than a whiff.

 

[Shoopman]

Doesn't tangent mean that the two things only intersect at one point?

 

[Nø Ca$h]

no it happens whenever sakurai has sex with a women.

 

[ranmaru]

I phantom occasionally. Does this mean I have bad spacing?

 

[JPOBS]

don't phantom hits occur from hitbox and hurtbox being tangent to eachother and not actually touching? So, essientially you shouldn't have hit but the game decided to give you some damage anyways. Personally I'd rather have a phantom hit than a whiff.

Even though this is the definition, this fails to explain how Falco's Lasers can also cause phantom hits.

Given that his lasers travel infinitely across the screen, its impossible for them to be tangent to a characters vertical body, but i guess it could be argued that it could phantom hit ducking puff/sheik etc

However, I've shot people square in the chest before and they kept coming like nymphomaniacs that masterbate.

 

[Shoopman]

I phantom occasionally. Does this mean I have bad spacing?

It means your spacing is so good that the game can't handle it. That's what I tell myself anyway.

 

[Nø Ca$h]

if you hit marth's tiara with a laser it phantoms. ive tested this.

 

[ranmaru]

It means your spacing is so good that the game can't handle it. That's what I fell myself anyway.

Looool I tell my self that sometimes too but I can never be sure.

 

[Rykard]

someone needs to make a phantom hit "combo video"

 

[Winston]

a phantom hit caused me a set (3rd game, over 100% upsmash) at ROM 3 pools

i hate this game.

I saw that match and yeah that was lame, but to be fair Doyoung also missed a uthrow -> rest that would have ended it in his favor =\

 

[StretchNutz]

Yes, a phantom hit occurs when a hitbox and hurtbox are tangential... so one more pixel in one direction would result in a normal hit and one in the other direction would result in a miss.

My Luigi has been phantom hit in the air by a homing missile. He caught on fire but the missile continued on and blew up afterwards.

 

[TheCrimsonBlur]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tlNC6p1Tc9o

Best phantom hit ever.

Also, Phantoms do half the normal damage.

Yeah I was definitely the Marth in that video.

That hurt. So. Much. lol

 

[Bing]

In one match, I got 3 phantom rests... I was pissed...

 

[Pi]

in a friendly, was recovering high as samus,
friends marth was charging a fsmash
i float just over him, get phantom'd by the fsmash, and bair him

 

[Zone]

don't phantom hits occur from hitbox and hurtbox being tangent to eachother and not actually touching? So, essientially you shouldn't have hit but the game decided to give you some damage anyways. Personally I'd rather have a phantom hit than a whiff.

I remember saying this in a youtube video once, and some guy named yayuhz told me I was wrong and that i'm an idiot. And I got like 30 thumbs down :\

Maybe I got the thumbsdown cuz I said that the phantom hit was the players fault for too much spacing.

So ever since that happened I always questioned myself. cuz the guy sounded SO sure.

 

[Paju]

Phantom knees are fun

 

[JPOBS]

I saw that match and yeah that was lame, but to be fair Doyoung also missed a uthrow -> rest that would have ended it in his favor =\

flat out missing something isnt at all "fair" or comparable to phantom hit.

 

[Dark Sonic]

don't phantom hits occur from hitbox and hurtbox being tangent to eachother and not actually touching? So, essientially you shouldn't have hit but the game decided to give you some damage anyways. Personally I'd rather have a phantom hit than a whiff.

Being in tangent with something BY DEFINITION means touching it.

"–adjective
1.
in immediate physical contact; touching.
2.
Geometry .
a.
touching at a single point, as a tangent in relation to a curve or surface.
b.
in contact along a single line or element, as a plane with a cylinder.
"


So as far as Marth is concerned, it's just the extreme end of hitting with "the tip of your sword" Q_Q.

 

[ranmaru]

I need to play your marth again, Dark BLUE sonic.