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Left 4 Dead Series (New DLC planned!)

cornxnuts

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I always find L4D fun. Even though the map and zombies are constant, there so much difference between fighting one team and the next. (Talking about vs, of course) The only time I find the game boring is after ive played it for several hours, and thats because I can't really play any game for too long.


In other news: whenever I play l4d with my 3 closest friends from back home, (College = tex sux0rz bandwith) we totally kick ***. I don't think the 4 of us ever lost a match. Anybody out there wanna challenge us when i get back down? People usually rage quit by the 2nd round, it sucks.
 

Spife

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I always find L4D fun. Even though the map and zombies are constant, there so much difference between fighting one team and the next. (Talking about vs, of course) The only time I find the game boring is after ive played it for several hours, and thats because I can't really play any game for too long.


In other news: whenever I play l4d with my 3 closest friends from back home, (College = tex sux0rz bandwith) we totally kick ***. I don't think the 4 of us ever lost a match. Anybody out there wanna challenge us when i get back down? People usually rage quit by the 2nd round, it sucks.
Go to gamebattles dot com and register a team up. I've been in your shoes and we're usually playing scrubs (save the first team that I was on that wrecked, even though we didn't play a legit team I swear we were good, honest >__>)

In other news, I love the different strategies in this game, too good.
 

Black Waltz

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What's a good way to teach teammates not to friendly fire you? My friend incapped me at least 5 times in one game and it's starting to piss me off.
 

Puddin

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Crouch if you're standing in front of them.
Doesn't seem to work with my One Game Stands. They seem to think "TEAMMATE IS CROUCHING, STAND IN FRONT OF HIM" is the best solution. Morons on Xbox LIVE I tell you.

Also, I wish they had more games with PC to 360 online capabilities, like Shadowrun
 

M@v

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I bought it on STEAM for the discounted price a couple hours ago. I got it downloading now. Its fun(Ive played it on 360 before), but I wouldn't of paid $50 for it.
 

Spife

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In terms of the friendly fire thing, in versus I've read that all guns (save the shot gun which does a set amount of damage per pellet and the hunting rifle) do 1 damage per bullet. I can't verify this as it was a post about the PC version (they noted the hunter doing 6 damage per scratch, not 10) I'd believe it for I've not been incapped due to friendly fire.

As for the shot gun, I forget how many pellets each have and how much damage per they do. I'm sure point blank shotties hurt enough so that you don't want to get shot in the face.

As for playing expert, I got nothing. Shotties hurt in expert :bee:
 

Charizard92

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It depends on difficulty. On easy, shots don't hurt, but it still destroys your chances at the safety first achievement. Normal, each shot does 1 damage, advanced, shots do half damage (that is still lethal for shottys, but every other weapon won't do above 50 damage) and on expert, shots do full damage.
 

Sensai

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I've found that the best way to teach people to not shoot you is, for everytime they shoot you that is _drastically_ their fault (meaning, it's not you being silly and running in front of them or standing up or something like this), simply shooting them back helps.

I know, it's a **** thing to say...but they'll learn, quick.
 

Sad Panda323

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Argh, this is so frustrating. Does anyone have any tips for beating the Blood Harvest finale on expert? My friends and I have tried countless times but the tanks always own us.
 

Puddin

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I've found that the best way to teach people to not shoot you is, for everytime they shoot you that is _drastically_ their fault (meaning, it's not you being silly and running in front of them or standing up or something like this), simply shooting them back helps.

I know, it's a **** thing to say...but they'll learn, quick.
Either that, or the prick keeps shooting you back.

Does the Stomach Upset achievement count for exploding boomers as well? The description says no survivors are vomited on an entire campaign, but technically an exploding Boomer is not vomiting on you. So does it only count for a vomiting boomer?
 

Black Waltz

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That sucks...the description is misleading :( Hell that sounds harder than the Nothing Special achievement. Unless your on easy.
My friend (who sucks horribly) and I actually got it because the NPC zoey took out the boomers from afar most of the time with her hunting rifle.
 

Puddin

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My friend (who sucks horribly) and I actually got it because the NPC zoey took out the boomers from afar most of the time with her hunting rifle.
Oddly enough I've been through entire campaign where the NPCs are the only ones to get Bile on them. You'd think they'd be smarter (Note to self: NPCs suck for achievements.) If anyone ever does try for this achievement, don't do it on Blood Harvest...you should know what I mean.
 

Black Waltz

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Just had the most fun on No Mercy 4; We broke the railings on the upper level of the lobby, and kept dragging person down from the upper level, forcing them to go back up and then stalling with a boomer or hunter. This went on for about 10 minutes.
 

Spife

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My team lost our tournament match tonight. The pisser's were: This was our best chance to win a match (unranked random team like we were), one of our team mates tank did not clutch it in the end (quite the opposite), we got an insta kill but the person got caught on an infected (wtf get up and scratch or something), I camped on a witch, they killed me, put a bullet in the witch i'm sure and then came up and crowned her, and then later I was meleeing a hunter and they got a scratch in, which shouldn't happen cause I was right on top of him.
****ing lag

Anyway. Anyone play on GB?
 

cornxnuts

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I'm gonna do GB over the summer, assuming there's still tournaments being held and stuff. The internet at college sucks balls, and I have too many priorities over video games anyway. If you can wait till summer I'll take you on with my 3 friends. muaha
 

Spife

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I'm gonna do GB over the summer, assuming there's still tournaments being held and stuff. The internet at college sucks balls, and I have too many priorities over video games anyway. If you can wait till summer I'll take you on with my 3 friends. muaha
God by then we should actually be on page 1 if we have what it takes, assuming they keep L4D around for another season (which I hope they do, cause with games like Nascar 09, Two GH's, two GoW's, 2 Basketball and Soccer games, I don't know what to think if all of that stays in and L4D is out.*)

Anyways, good luck taking us on lulz We make pubbies weep

*: I Feel I should say that those games are probably just as competitive in their own communities, but NASCAR? Really? I could see a GT game but Nascar?
 

cornxnuts

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Next time I go down (Spring Break, probably?) I can vs you. But be warned. 99% of people we play cry after the first few rounds. We usually request that they bottle their tears in a vial and send it to us. We actually have a giant collection of vials of tears. Yeah.
 

Spife

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To be honest, we're probably bad with tanks and later levels in campaigns cause we down people to fast or make them quit. *sighs*.
But no seriously public games are ridiculous. I don't even know why people play them some times. You know the teams you ****? I'm "quick match"ed my self on a few of them and it's ludicrous. They either don't have mics, or think blocking is a legit strat.

How bad is the lag where you are at?
In other news, non-direct smack talk is very fun :bee:
 

cornxnuts

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They always think im kidding about the tears....

Anyway, it's pretty bad. Examples:
At home, I can dl stuff on bitlord at over 500 kbps.
Here, the highest I've ever seen something dl is about 100 kbps.
Typically though, things download at 10 kbps.

I can play a round with you if you'd like, but I'm very...unreliable. I may do the whole match with no lag, save for a handful of 30 second lag spikes where if, by chance, a hunter had pounced someone, that someone would be dead.
 

Sad Panda323

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http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3172962

"Xbox 360 owners, you're finally getting your Left 4 Dead patch. Take a deep sigh of relief, and be grateful that you're not being treated like Xbox 360 Team Fortress 2 fans.

Much like the PC patch that hit over a month ago, this one is pretty extensive. Among other things, it fixes bugs like the one that enables Survivors to climb surfaces marked for the Infected only.

Good idea that. Hit the jump for more details.

General

* Fixed Survivors being able to climb surfaces marked for versus infected only
* Fixed a class of SurvivorBot bugs dealing with rescuing downed players
* Players can no longer grab ladders while flying through the air after a Tank punch
* Shooting near a car with an alarm that has already fired the alarm will no longer make chirping noises
* Fixed mini-gun physics exploit
* Fixed propane tanks (and other physics objects) causing players to fall through elevators
* Fixed rare achievement bug issues
* Fixed several map exploits

Versus Changes

* Added HUD elements to show status of other infected players
* Fixed instance where a Survivor changing to the infected team would be attacked by infected bots
* Normalized special infected melee damage
* Fixed exploit where infected players could run away and teleport back to gain health
* Players can only change teams once per map
* Players can't change teams while other players are still loading
* Tank spawns at the same % through the map for both teams in versus mode
* Made the Tank and Witch spawn directly on the escape route
* Increased chance of getting the Tank or Witch Fixed team swap issue

Hunter

* Easier to pounce a Survivor who is meleeing
* Increased Minimum damage a Hunter pounce does

Smoker

* Fixed Smoker tongue tolerance
* Smoker now has to be killed or the tongue destroyed for the tongue to break
* Survivors cannot bash someone off the tongue until the Survivor being pulled is paralyzed or hanging
* Tongue attacks that fail to paralyze or hang a Survivor will use the shorter ability delay timer
* Fixed cases where the ability timer was not using the correct time
* Fixed case where you could point at a Survivor but not register a tongue hit
* Fixed Smoker tongue not targeting and landing properly through PZ ghosts
* Smoker tongue does damage every second while dragging paralyzed Survivors

Tank

* Bashable objects now appear with a red glow
* Tanks hitting a car with an alarm disables the alarm permanently
* Tank frustration timer is only reset by hitting Survivors with rocks or fists
* Reduced autoshotgun damage against Tanks

Witch

* Witch spawns at the same % through the map for both teams
* Avoids spawning within a certain % of the tank
* Fixed an exploit where the Witch could be woken up and tricked into attacking Survivors"
 

Puddin

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That's all fine and good, but what I REALLY want to know is if the generator glitch is still on the 360 version, it fails to mention.

I'm loving the Special Infected HUD though, a LOT easier than pressing select to see the status of my team.

And is Double Melee gone as well? I tried but I couldn't tell if it was doing it correctly or not.
 

Ladybug

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You're more than welcome to add me. My steam ID is moonyshine, but my tag is S.T.A.R.S| girlfriend. I don't play as often as I like, but I'm about to be next season CAL training. :)

Edit: I laughed so hard at that porn. I couldn't believe it.
 

epic of DE

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Hmm...You both are on Steam sometimes, well I'm not able to play it as often as I'd like but normally on fridays or saturdays I'm playing on my friend's account so once I remember what his is I'll put it up...I think its Srules or something...

I pretty much do versus since I like being the infected.
 

Spife

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The changes make the game really different
instakills are gone, tank camping is done differently and you can't use the witch as a infected now. Melee isn't as broken, double melee is out, blocking is too. Hunter pounces are where it's at for them now, smokers are good for slow down and seperation but that's it. Boomers I find are much easier to use, tanks too because you have an extra 2k health to lose.

Good link:
http://woodio.net/gaming/4-gaming/29-left-4-dead-weapon-damage-guide.html
I can't be sure, and it is for the PC, but I think that reflects everyone's numbers now, soooo
Tanks:
Tanks have 6k (6,000) hp in versus. Shotguns do 25% less damage to a tank. Auto-Shot guns can do 576 damage per second. That's a lot, even at 25% less damage for tanks, they do 432. At 432 damage/second, a tank drops in 13 seconds from ONE shot gun. From two shot guns, a tank drops in around 7 seconds. With 3 shot guns, tank drops in about 4 and a half seconds.

Did I get my math right?


And I take it no one plays on Game battles? My team got ***** outa tourny. So far we've played two tourny games and 2 ladder matches, each time we have a new 4th. GG.
Lobbies don't pick up people fast anymore, the game feels like it's dying online already >.<
 

Ladybug

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I have an account on GB, but the rest of my team decided to go CAL. Although recently we've been talking and there are enough for us to do two, so I might switch to the GB sections since I really don't have the time for the CAL set-up because of my work schedule.

I love playing infected.

I never really noticed the melee fix. I do notice you're right, the tank does seem to die faster, but a lot of time in vs, you don't get l2's when theres a tank, or you might not make it to the spot before the tank spawns to get them. The best way to usually deal with a tank though, like No Mercy elevator level, is park the tank next to the elevator. that way you have five characters. Yeah, the cpu tank will hit someone and keep hitting them till they are dead, but if you've got all their health gone and you've done enough damage before that, it's no biggie.

Smokers are good for seperation, yes, but in all honesty, they are good for hoards too. When you get a good boom and you have a smoker that manages to pull one, not only can the others not see, but you've got the survivor and the hoard on them as well. You've got double the hits as a smoker when there's a good boom. There are also tons of good places for a smoker to get fall damage.

And its always a smart idea as a hunter to be on fire when you pounce. Or do a high jump because you get fall damage that way. I got 26 damage one from the top of a building down onto someone just by fall, not counting the hits.
 

Spife

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C...AL?
The tank actually lasts longer now. I think those figures are if the tank lets you pump him full of lead.

Don't park the tank next to the elevator, park him behind the generator. With luck he'll punch that sucka into the elevator and that makes for a good party. Though the tank is very easy to deal with there (Just go right, there's a section you can run circles in while he chases you, also there's been a gas can every time we've been back there..AI director my ***).

flaming hunters move slower so keep that in mind.

I'm out of things to say. My ****ing team complains about losing but then doesnt' get on to practice. GG
 

Ladybug

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Ahahaha, anyone ever -not- have someone blow up the gas station... they try and kill all the infected that are standing around it and blow everyone up in the process?!?! Omg that was epic!

The best part was they all raged on us right after that. :D I love people.

Edit: Spife: you Steam or XBL?
 

Spife

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Ahahaha, anyone ever -not- have someone blow up the gas station... they try and kill all the infected that are standing around it and blow everyone up in the process?!?! Omg that was epic!

The best part was they all raged on us right after that. :D I love people.

Edit: Spife: you Steam or XBL?
That happened to me last night. I went flying.

XBL.

Incidentally, the 360 L4D GB community has a ton of scrubs in top rank teams. Case in point, they think tank camping was lame. Lol. GG.
If I ever quit I'm dropping sirlin and insults on their *** before I go. I think a team who plays to win (or atleast pre-patch, not a lot of playing to win to be doing now n days) could take top 5 very easily.

Lady, what strats are there for Dead Air and Death Toll in versus? I wanna try those two out on a friends steam to see what to expect when we get them (just to get a head start).
 

Spife

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Spife I wish I could join you and we could be "Team Embrace the Gay"
Or "Teenage Mutant Homo Turtles", coined after a scrub told us camping was extremely annoying. Same scrub is in top 5 team, go figure.

I just wish more smashers played because then I could get some support in pseudo-mocking people for scrubby posts. I recently quoted Isai (don't get hit) because some one was popping off about how now, going survivor first isn't at a dissadvantage cause if a tank spawns you should be able to deal with it.
My response was obviously, "Yeah, it's not that hard, just don't get hit and you'll do fine".
Idiots. I also wish I was good at the game lulz.
 

Ladybug

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Only No Mercy and Bloodharvest. Apparently (based on one of my teammates saying he's played DA) some servers have the other two, but I've never played them. Every time you go to create a vs, you get two options. NM and BH. It sucks... Because as much as I like those two, I really would love to play DA in vs.
 
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