Rizen
Smash Legend
^You scared me for a minute there 
. Sorry you had to lose your laptop
. Sorry you had to lose your laptop 
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Heero Yuy
#sweg
Huggles828
Aimin' to Misbehave
It's always tragic when you lose a laptop.
Also, hi guys. I need to get on here but real life has been keeping me busy (that and Netflix + How I Met Your Mother)
Also, MEGA MAN IN SMASH 4 DUAL MAIN TIEMZ.
Also, Fire Emblem Awakening is still amazing.
Also, I'm almost done with school. Just rotations. I'm working in a Nuclear Pharmacy drawing up doses of radioactive isotopes for imaging and stuff. A nice side effect is when you get mad you turn into the Hulk since you're working with (and getting blasted by) gamma rays.
Also, hi guys. I need to get on here but real life has been keeping me busy (that and Netflix + How I Met Your Mother)
Also, MEGA MAN IN SMASH 4 DUAL MAIN TIEMZ.
Also, Fire Emblem Awakening is still amazing.
Also, I'm almost done with school. Just rotations. I'm working in a Nuclear Pharmacy drawing up doses of radioactive isotopes for imaging and stuff. A nice side effect is when you get mad you turn into the Hulk since you're working with (and getting blasted by) gamma rays.
HuggleZ, stop coming back from the dead. Stop making us repeatedly happy then sad.
Did I ever tell you, before you died for the thridzillionth time, how much I love your sig quote? <3
Just stay with us. :'(
In other news, we've already confirmed that Jigglypuff will be the only selectable icon in SSB4 because DRAGONSLAYER >:D
I know you're all so disappointed that I haven't posted any tourney results recently, what were you going to do without them
BUT
I STILL DON'T HAVE ANY
But Kotier and I are competing in the same WiFi tourney today, wish us luck :D
Did I ever tell you, before you died for the thridzillionth time, how much I love your sig quote? <3
Just stay with us. :'(
In other news, we've already confirmed that Jigglypuff will be the only selectable icon in SSB4 because DRAGONSLAYER >:D
I know you're all so disappointed that I haven't posted any tourney results recently, what were you going to do without them
BUT
I STILL DON'T HAVE ANY
But Kotier and I are competing in the same WiFi tourney today, wish us luck :D
Heero Yuy
#sweg
I feel like I have a gif for everything now...
...But seriously, good luck! :D
I also love that verse in your sig, Huggles. :D
Got 9th out of 20 in a WiFi tourney today
Kotier got last place though
http://www.smashdomain.net/index.php?topic=16266.0
Kotier got last place though
http://www.smashdomain.net/index.php?topic=16266.0
Heero Yuy
#sweg
Not bad! Not bad!
Sorry Kotier. D:
Sorry Kotier. D:
Got 5th of about 20 at Smashcon's 64 tourny yesterday using all Link. Beat a guy named Oracle from TX who is supposed to be a really good Yoshi and better player than Denti. It was really tough because he jump canceled so much with Yoshi and had great mobility with him.
Game 1: Got 2-3 stocked by him on Hyrule
Game 2: Got lucky on the first stock, managed to infinite jab lock him against the wall on Hyrule, got interrupted by the tornado, got him to a high enough percent to where he lost his first stock. Managed to take his second stock shortly after, then he caught up quickly and we proceeded to exchange taking stocks until I came out on top with one stock left.
Game 3: Tricked him into taking me to Dreamland which apparently is a hard counterpick against Link. Not a big deal for me, it's basically a bigger version of Battlefield which works out perfectly for me. I wound up 2 or 3 stocking him.
I went into the game with me and my friends knowing the probably outcome. By the end of the second game, I realized I could probably make it, which is when I tricked Oracle into taking me to Dreamland. In those situations, I would just see I could win, lose, then play it off coming up with johns. For once I actually realized I could win and actually wanted to. I'm so shocked because I was fighting hard on keeping my heart rate low, while fighting off and incredible yoshi on a stage that would easily be the end of me. I feel accomplished. I am not sure if the match got recorded. I don't think it was, but oh man, if it was. I know the matches that did get recorded is of me getting bodied hard by a mario player who came in 2nd place. Mario is my kryptonite for right now.
Game 1: Got 2-3 stocked by him on Hyrule
Game 2: Got lucky on the first stock, managed to infinite jab lock him against the wall on Hyrule, got interrupted by the tornado, got him to a high enough percent to where he lost his first stock. Managed to take his second stock shortly after, then he caught up quickly and we proceeded to exchange taking stocks until I came out on top with one stock left.
Game 3: Tricked him into taking me to Dreamland which apparently is a hard counterpick against Link. Not a big deal for me, it's basically a bigger version of Battlefield which works out perfectly for me. I wound up 2 or 3 stocking him.
I went into the game with me and my friends knowing the probably outcome. By the end of the second game, I realized I could probably make it, which is when I tricked Oracle into taking me to Dreamland. In those situations, I would just see I could win, lose, then play it off coming up with johns. For once I actually realized I could win and actually wanted to. I'm so shocked because I was fighting hard on keeping my heart rate low, while fighting off and incredible yoshi on a stage that would easily be the end of me. I feel accomplished. I am not sure if the match got recorded. I don't think it was, but oh man, if it was. I know the matches that did get recorded is of me getting bodied hard by a mario player who came in 2nd place. Mario is my kryptonite for right now.
Rizen
Smash Legend
^Great work everyone!
Huggles828
Aimin' to Misbehave
....I got 1st out of 4 when we put in Brawl and I played for the first time in like 6 months with my brother and his roommates?
Man, I actually miss having a standard def TV and kinda regret only having an HD one, haha. I think playing on an HDTV is actually worse than not playing at all in terms of messing up your timing. Good job repping Link guys. Makes me feel like I should get back into Brawl for reals.
Man, I actually miss having a standard def TV and kinda regret only having an HD one, haha. I think playing on an HDTV is actually worse than not playing at all in terms of messing up your timing. Good job repping Link guys. Makes me feel like I should get back into Brawl for reals.
Rizen
Smash Legend
Why'd you have to be so mean
? /jkI kept my non-HD TV just for Brawl and my old VHS player. My room have 3 screens in it including my computer. It feels like I'm in some surveillance room lol.
Good work Huggles
Right now ALL my control stick skins are peeling and playing for long cuts into my thumb. That really hurt my thumb once before so I reluctantly ordered another controller from PlayAsia.com . They cost $50 + shipping
Denti
Smash Master
Compared to Oracle I usually win all the offline Smash 64 events in TX.
I'm pretty sure Hugglez is the most pro Link we've had in a long time. I'm pretty sure he could beat Izaw one out of one times.
On that note actually that may be why I'm struggling to pull off attacks right. Control stick may be loose or something and I might just be used to it. I'm going to have to try one of my other controllers to be sure because it does handle differently. Interesting.
Anyways, let us know how the controller goes. I hear they are crappy, but there's got to be some good controllers out there.
Did you buy a 3rd party controller? I hear those are the only ones that can be bought these days. I don't follow the controller drama much because my 11 year old controllers are still in great shape (still using my original GC controller :D)Right now ALL my control stick skins are peeling and playing for long cuts into my thumb. That really hurt my thumb once before so I reluctantly ordered another controller from PlayAsia.com . They cost $50 + shipping
On that note actually that may be why I'm struggling to pull off attacks right. Control stick may be loose or something and I might just be used to it. I'm going to have to try one of my other controllers to be sure because it does handle differently. Interesting.
Anyways, let us know how the controller goes. I hear they are crappy, but there's got to be some good controllers out there.
Get more people into 64 in TX. I want to see an LA-TX crew battle.
Huggles828
Aimin' to Misbehave
D'awww thanks Ano. I still remember that time you told me to keep at it since I had talent - right after you randomly disappeared from our online match because you quickly shoved your Wii under the couch since you weren't supposed to be playing Brawl any more when your parents walked in
It's been a while since I've been what I'd call a pro level though. Got some rust to knock off if I want to get back in top form (ESAM goes to college where I live; maybe that'd help if I could ever get a match set up? :D )A good place to look for controllers is actually at video game stores at flea/open air markets. I got a namebrand Gamecube controller for 13 bucks at the flea market in Daytona about a month back that feels like it had maybe a month of wear and tear on it (and probably should've bought another one too). I found a couple other controllers at another shop in the same flea market in great shape too for like 20. They're getting harder and harder to find though, that's for sure.
Random aside: I have heard rumors that they're thinking of making a Wii U-Gamecube controller adapter for the upcoming Smash Bros. Anyone know if this is true? That'd be awesome if it is since I use the claw style while holding my controller.
Rizen
Smash Legend
^Cool be sure to get replays
I'm going to switch to WiiU Pro controllers for SSB4 because good GC controllers are so hard to find and pricy now.
It's hard to tell what hair color Link has.
It ranges from bright blond:
[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HJ5Q1sRJJEI[/youtube]
ashy blond,
to almost redish brown.
Like in the Zelda series. I think that's cool.
I'm going to switch to WiiU Pro controllers for SSB4 because good GC controllers are so hard to find and pricy now.
It's hard to tell what hair color Link has.
It ranges from bright blond:
[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HJ5Q1sRJJEI[/youtube]
ashy blond,
to almost redish brown.
Like in the Zelda series. I think that's cool.
Heero Yuy
#sweg
I randomly stumbled upon this on AiB while looking at Vinnie's blog of "Best Players of Each Character". Since he didn't do Link, some random dude posted his own Link list in a comment. Anyone want to tell me their takes on this?
The only one I find atrocious is NinjaLink...
I've never even heard of NinjaLink or Tutu. As it stands, I think the top 3 are the only ones that even qualify enough to be considered "best players" of Link, and I don't think KirinBlaze even actively plays Link. The other two are probably pretty good players, but I really doubt they are on that plane of being "the best."
Huggles828
Aimin' to Misbehave
Where's Legan on that list?
Heero Yuy
#sweg
@Ano
NinjaLink doesn't even main Link. He's a Diddy main whom is good with just about every character. Like Izaw, he really seems to just post videos of himself winning. Idk who Tutu is; he's probably an AiB exclusive player.
On that note, no Deva? (both Legan and Deva retired, but I still think they deserve the credit)
NinjaLink doesn't even main Link. He's a Diddy main whom is good with just about every character. Like Izaw, he really seems to just post videos of himself winning. Idk who Tutu is; he's probably an AiB exclusive player.
On that note, no Deva? (both Legan and Deva retired, but I still think they deserve the credit)
I didn't realize he was trying to say that NinjaLink, lol. I'd love to see him try to play Link.
It's a sloppy list in the end. A guy who's probably a NinjaLink fan and a friend of Tutu probably just gave them props on the list because, well, he knows them, and threw around a couple of well-known names (Like KirinBlaze who's inactive) because other than Xav1er and Scizor there aren't any well-known, notably good Link mains.
It's a sloppy list in the end. A guy who's probably a NinjaLink fan and a friend of Tutu probably just gave them props on the list because, well, he knows them, and threw around a couple of well-known names (Like KirinBlaze who's inactive) because other than Xav1er and Scizor there aren't any well-known, notably good Link mains.
maybe at whobo? some folks in houston have started playing 64 a little so who knows.
Rizen
Smash Legend
That list is from like 2 years ago and was never accurate. It keeps popping up :/
Considering how most Links are inactive, Scizor and X are probably the top 2 Links right now. ALSM and I could make top 5. IDK who's actually active.
The 2nd picture down in this http://smashboards.com/threads/le-l...augh-lounge-♪-。.254551/page-134#post-15623751 changes daily but it was Link, lol.
Considering how most Links are inactive, Scizor and X are probably the top 2 Links right now. ALSM and I could make top 5. IDK who's actually active.
The 2nd picture down in this http://smashboards.com/threads/le-l...augh-lounge-♪-。.254551/page-134#post-15623751 changes daily but it was Link, lol.
Heero Yuy
#sweg
As of today my Link is green as homage to Aniki (legendary Melee Link)...And you can also probably throw Legan in there, too.
Z'zgashi
Smash Legend
Imo best Links are Scizor then X. After them idk, I dont follow Link enough to compare any other Links.
Rizen
Smash Legend
Talk of possible balance patches in SSB4:
http://shoryuken.com/2013/06/26/mas...says-hes-not-opposed-to-downloadable-content/
You know, so characters like MK who can literately fly several loops around FD without landing or grabbing the ledge won't be so far above Link in recovery (and frame data :/ ).
"Though he sees balance patches as important to sustaining the game, he also hopes players take the time to decide for themselves whether a character needs adjusting rather than jumping on popular opinion"
My response: I've stuck with a terrible character since the first SSB64. I play 3 of the 4 worst characters in the game (-Jiggz) and also Bowser. I've mastered elements like Link's Gale wind that most people gave up on years ago. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8t0Co9ZXGEI I also suck with MK but still do amazing in MUs I don't even know because the balance is SO bad: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vp7xhtCubSg High tiers and even more-so MK SOAR above low and mid tiers. I admit the popular opinion of Link is often very inaccurate but the balance of Brawl is terrible. Give us a competitively balanced cast; we've experienced the imbalance for YEARS!
http://shoryuken.com/2013/06/26/mas...says-hes-not-opposed-to-downloadable-content/
You know, so characters like MK who can literately fly several loops around FD without landing or grabbing the ledge won't be so far above Link in recovery (and frame data :/ ).
"Though he sees balance patches as important to sustaining the game, he also hopes players take the time to decide for themselves whether a character needs adjusting rather than jumping on popular opinion"
My response: I've stuck with a terrible character since the first SSB64. I play 3 of the 4 worst characters in the game (-Jiggz) and also Bowser. I've mastered elements like Link's Gale wind that most people gave up on years ago. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8t0Co9ZXGEI I also suck with MK but still do amazing in MUs I don't even know because the balance is SO bad: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vp7xhtCubSg High tiers and even more-so MK SOAR above low and mid tiers. I admit the popular opinion of Link is often very inaccurate but the balance of Brawl is terrible. Give us a competitively balanced cast; we've experienced the imbalance for YEARS!
Huggles828
Aimin' to Misbehave
I wouldn't be opposed to occasional patches, as long as they keep them infrequent and fairly minor (shave a frame here, increase an fsmash damage by 2 or 3% there, etc.). If you release them too frequently you constantly have to relearn the game, but every now and then a patch to fix gamebreaking stuff would be nice.
Heero Yuy
#sweg
Asking for a balanced cast also means asking for a more Melee-like approach... I personally find it much easier to find vids of Pichus beating Foxes rather than Ganons beating Meta Knights.
And I don't mind patches at all - heavy or light. One patch every month or so won't hurt at all. Here's hoping most of them will be in Link's favor.
Also, just so you know... Link can go under FD and make it to the other side. It's pretty tricky with the exact percentage and bomb explosion, but it's certainly possible.
And I don't mind patches at all - heavy or light. One patch every month or so won't hurt at all. Here's hoping most of them will be in Link's favor.
Also, just so you know... Link can go under FD and make it to the other side. It's pretty tricky with the exact percentage and bomb explosion, but it's certainly possible.
Z'zgashi
Smash Legend
Melee isnt more balanced because due to its physics or anything, in fact, take out MK, and Brawl is WAY more balanced than Melee. And the reason you can find Pichus beating spacies is cuz Pichu can CG them and if the spacies dont know the MU well enough, one grab for Pichu is basically a stock gone for Fox if played right. Finding Pichus beating other top tiers like Marth who cant be CG'd would be just as hard as Ganon beating MK. The reason Melee is more balanced has less to do with how Melee is, and more that MK is just unbalanced and dominates the game too much. If MK were to be nerfed, even just enough to still be #1 but not in a tier of his own, youd see success from a HUGE amount of high-mid characters, even more than in Melee.
And as for patches, I HIGHLY doubt theyd patch any more often than 2-3 times a year, and unless something gamebreaking is found early in the games lifespan, I wouldnt expect a patch for at least 4-6 months, which is the amount of length youd want for a game like this so you can let the meta game develop and figure out exactly what needs to be fixed instead of just nerfing 'day 1 over powered tactics' (remember for the first month or two of brawl how ROB was considered top tier due to sidestep dsmash? Yeah, stuff like that).
And as for patches, I HIGHLY doubt theyd patch any more often than 2-3 times a year, and unless something gamebreaking is found early in the games lifespan, I wouldnt expect a patch for at least 4-6 months, which is the amount of length youd want for a game like this so you can let the meta game develop and figure out exactly what needs to be fixed instead of just nerfing 'day 1 over powered tactics' (remember for the first month or two of brawl how ROB was considered top tier due to sidestep dsmash? Yeah, stuff like that).
Rizen
Smash Legend
MK is by far the best character but high tiers are considerably better than lower characters. ICs, Oli and Diddy are really good but the other high tiers also do significantly better than the borderlines and lower.
To balance Brawl things like DDD's grab and Dthrow would have to be addressed. For Example Wolf has a -1 vs MK, 0 with Oli and 0 or -1 (imo) vs ICs but a -3 vs DDD. Some tactic exploit characters to the point where a MU is realistically unwinnable :/
To balance Brawl things like DDD's grab and Dthrow would have to be addressed. For Example Wolf has a -1 vs MK, 0 with Oli and 0 or -1 (imo) vs ICs but a -3 vs DDD. Some tactic exploit characters to the point where a MU is realistically unwinnable :/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZMCpDCkFB2Y&feature=player_detailpage#t=24s
Huggles828
Aimin' to Misbehave
Yeah, I agree with Z'zgashi. Patches shouldn't be more than like once or twice a year imo, and certainly not for at least a while after the initial release if they do it.
Z'zgashi
Smash Legend
DDD as a character is a really bad example lol. He either loses hard because he cant land grabs and/or cg, or he destroys them because can land grabs and/or has an infinite, theres VERY few in betweens.
And the reason the High Tiers do better than borderlines and lower, is because the majority of borderlines and lower get man handled by MK, and the ones that CAN deal with MK (Fox and Wolf are the ONLY borderline or lower characters with a MU lower than -2 on MK) have other REALLY BAD MUs and get juggled/combod to death by other top tiers. Take out MK, and characters like ROB, Ike, Peach, etc suddenly become viable.
And the reason the High Tiers do better than borderlines and lower, is because the majority of borderlines and lower get man handled by MK, and the ones that CAN deal with MK (Fox and Wolf are the ONLY borderline or lower characters with a MU lower than -2 on MK) have other REALLY BAD MUs and get juggled/combod to death by other top tiers. Take out MK, and characters like ROB, Ike, Peach, etc suddenly become viable.
Rizen
Smash Legend
^But that's exactly why there needs to be patches to balance characters like DDD. I agree MK is the worst character for overall balance; he's the reason Norfair, Brin and RC were removed. For everyone else the stages would work as a hard counter but MK is untouchable.
G&W arguably can have a -1 vs MK too. Even with MK gone the high tiers would be in a class of their own above borderlines. Peach does well vs Oli and ICs but then there's Snake and Marth. IDK ROB. The high tiers always have someone who really shuts down lower characters. Marth owns G&W, DDD>Wolf and so on. If you include low and mid tiers there are a lot of terrible high tier MUs like Oli for Zelda, Falco for Link...
Removing MK is a good step forward but there needs to be tweaks to the balance all around.
G&W arguably can have a -1 vs MK too. Even with MK gone the high tiers would be in a class of their own above borderlines. Peach does well vs Oli and ICs but then there's Snake and Marth. IDK ROB. The high tiers always have someone who really shuts down lower characters. Marth owns G&W, DDD>Wolf and so on. If you include low and mid tiers there are a lot of terrible high tier MUs like Oli for Zelda, Falco for Link...
Removing MK is a good step forward but there needs to be tweaks to the balance all around.
Z'zgashi
Smash Legend
I agree, but my point was only that Brawl without MK's balance >>> Melee balance lol ;p
Z'zgashi
Smash Legend
I have SC2, I rarely play it though so Im REALLY bad at it. I play LoL and Smite though.
Heero Yuy
#sweg
I disagree and agree with Rizen. Removing MK isn't gonna solve the imbalance problem completely. There are still a huge handful of characters that will annihilate a majority of low tiers, placing a bigger stress on the matchup balance. Removing MK will only help minimally due to the heavy amount of high tier advantage that's already in the game. Heck, due to the mechanics of Brawl being less forgiving than Melee, it makes the tier gap even bigger.
Any of you ladies play L4D2 or TF2?
P.S. Boy did this thread go off-topic fast.