Laundry's All-Stars Pokemon Mafia -- Pokeballs to the Pokewalls!

[T-block]

six votes on RR now btw, i believe

 

[Ramen King]

Un vote

 

[Dooms]

Ryu, please start taking the game seriously.

Voting yourself won't help town win in any way, shape, or form. Giving me your vote won't, either.

Vote who YOU think is scummy. -_-'.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

L-2 huh?

nah.

unvote

Tells me I should take this seriously, let me finish a Angelic Layer rewatch of this episode and I will.

 

[T-block]

ryker, comment on something a little more relevant

stances on ran, DH, RR please

 

[Raziek]

Hey Raaaaaaaaaaaaaaaz, hard and well elaborated stance on Xonar.

Also, I will offer you the chance to take Kantrip's place on my to-shoot list next to Xonar if you want to.

:3c

I skimmed his posts because his avatar wasn't there.

Slight Town lean.

Go **** yourself.

 

[Ramen King]

Vote: Red Ryu


lol

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Man, I'm like the only guy who can't lurk and be lazy on this site, everyone focuses me when I try to be like this.

How does Ryker and co do this?

 

[Dooms]

Also, I didn't realize that meta was this important.

Anyone wanna fill me in on general meta for players in the player list? Ever since I stopped playing, I washed all meta out of my system, so I literally have none. .

Not voting Ryu until he gets back into serious mode, so I can actually see where his mind is at.

@Ryu: It's because they have credibility and are considered the best players on the site.

Or they've just put it into their playstyle to the point where it's expected and not a scum tell. Someone (I can't remember who atm) literally said you were scummy because of you trying to be lazy lol.

@Dark Horse: What are your thoughts on Kantrip vs Tekcat? Specifically Tekcat. Reasoning would be nice as well.

 

[Raziek]

It was me, and that's because most times Ruy has lurked, he's been scum.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Man things like that irritate me, July went deep to put me as scum over Deitz in Shining Force over that BS, episode done I'll get looking.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

It was me, and that's because most times Ruy has lurked, he's been scum.

I didn't lurk in Adventure Time, I was out of town for two weekend in a row just like for Walgreens since they were both at the same time.

 

[Dooms]

Ryu that's not a good defense, and I'm pretty sure that you know that.

Still waiting for a catchup-esque post.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

I'm not gonna sit here and let people over and over in each game reference stupid **** meta in every game I played, people tried to pull this back in Shining Force over the obvious scum and that was dumb as ****.

Even more so when I know he's played with me when I was scum and didn't lurk due to irl johns. Only time it was intentional was FFT.

I mad and salty.

 

[T-block]

I'm not gonna sit here and let people over and over in each game reference stupid **** meta in every game I played, people tried to pull this back in Shining Force over the obvious scum and that was dumb as ****.

Even more so when I know he's played with me when I was scum and didn't lurk due to irl johns. Only time it was intentional was FFT.

I mad and salty.

yeah i know that feel

>=(

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Funny, I really did have that coming didn't I? I'm a true hypocrite.

My apologies on that.

 

[#HBC | Ryker]

ryker, comment on something a little more relevant

stances on ran, DH, RR please

Make me or go lynch Xonar. I fail to see how that isn't relevant.

:3c

 

[#HBC | Ryker]

Because I'm fairly certain I've watched him do this before as Town, thus I have no reason to believe his overreaction is a scumtell at this point.

Really? How about his interaction with John? Were the contents of his explosion justified?

 

[T-block]

Make me or go lynch Xonar. I fail to see how that isn't relevant.

:3c

because you are not going to get a xonar lynch

stances on RR, DH, ran plz

 

[#HBC | Ryker]

I will give you no stance on any of the three.

Why am I not going to get a Xonar lynch? I generally get the things that I want, so run this by me again.

 

[#HBC | Ryker]

I am going to sleep unless someone grabs my attention in the next 15 minutes.

Kantrip should hold off on claiming, I may replace him with someone else. Xonar should claim though.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Ok did a real reread.

First off, your all dumb.

Second, Xonar still needs to die, what he did was different from RazzlePuff and what he did. Xonar tried to apply a skill test to me in how I give content over looking at an overall read of the situation.

This is before I tried to blatantly sheep and give nothing, he immediately goes for a call out and wants a lynch because I gave Ryker my vote for the day. Note RazzlePuff wanted this when I actively ate out of Ryker's hand for the later portion of this. What separates me with Dark Horse is player skill, but that doesn't make sense with what he responded to T-Block with. This isn't a subject of content in terms of reads and reactions, this is a subject of getting rid of actual garbage over someone trying to make some form of content, me = Garbage DH = content.

He expects better from me right? But of what from what I posted and if so why does my skill have to do with this? This is about me lurking and actively not giving content to town over DH who he expected to give bad content from what I read.

Read the interaction,

xonar, talk to me about DH. why were you so much harsher against RR than against DH when they've essentially given us the same amount of content?

Essentially, yes. I expect more out of RR than DH though, and RR started off doing the wack vote-give thing, which I didn't like at all.

DH's post promised content to some degree. First post wasn't good but besides him being in my watch list it wasn't a biggy yet.

DH/xonar scumteam? i could see it.

xonar,
how is ryker anything other than null? the reason you gave in 250 is hella naive.
also, liking tekcat for telling zen to think before proposing massclaim is odd.
where has DH promised content? is the amount of content he's provided sufficient for someone who's been keeping up with this game (and has even reread [204])?
i think DH has been trying to fake being an active contributor in a sense, whereas RR isn't trying to project that image. RR knows he's not going to be able to claim he was contributing, and he's also said he's been too busy to read. it's not so much about quality of town contribution, but rather DH is scummy in his lack of contribution, while RR is null. agree/disagree?

You're telling me Ryker can't just pretend to not have visited the thread and kept his vote there?


That's not odd.
It's more the intention that TekcaT shows. He wants to make Zen think. It's just not a sentence I'd see scum putting there, do you?


No, it's not. Like I said, I'm down with pressuring him.
There's more promise of content in his opening post as opposed to Red Ruy's had. That's what I was saying.



Yes, of course I have thought about this. Like I said, I'm down with pressuring DH. I even said I don't like him (aka scum). You're pretending like my reaction to both their first posts determine my entire thought of the slot. It's not that way.

RR's first post was bad because he avoided commenting without giving us anything else. RR is a pretty okay player. I can't live with that.
DH's first post was a rehash of information, showing that he is at least willing to comment, if only sheeping (for now). DH is a pretty bad player. I can live with that.

RR's later posts include his vote giving and overall null posts. Bad vibes.
DH's later posts include more rehashing and no new information or anything except sheeping. Bad vibes.


So yes, DH is scummy. RR is on my "watch list".

i'm telling you it's not unlikely that he would do it as scum for town cred, no? i reread and saw that he actually unvoted before zen called it a lynch (i thought he did it after), so i can see where you're getting the idea. regardless, it's a choice between a small chance at an accidental lynch and guaranteed town cred. not unreasonable for scum to choose town cred. hence why i called it naive.



i don't see why scum wouldn't say that lol



well you can see how i get that impression when literally the only thing you said about DH before i asked you was this:

Trying reeeaaal hard to be null.
Gimme something new. Your next post has one point raised that I haven't seen raised before. Just one. That's not too hard.

while you've been pushing for votes on RR the whole game



yeah... your posts thus far make me think it's the other way around

It's how you see it. Call it naieve but we're at page 7. I'll take what I can get.




Well, I'm considering his level low. Effort to make people think is appreciated. It's little things like those I use to read "crapshoots" like TekcaT.




Context let's go:
Everything posted by Red Ruy.
Everything posted by Dark House.

at the time of the remark.

Red Ruy's post that made me want to pile on him. (note the post number of these post)


One/two posts? Whole game? Nope.


You see, you're taking my reaction when they both only had their first posts. Then you're misconstruing my reaction towards RR saying that I've been on his tail (heh) all game.

See, because of DH's level I preferred asking him to contribute more over than getting on him. of RR I expect more. Plus that ugly action made.

I don't see why skill should have any indicator about content at all.

RazzlePuff is not the same, he had a lot more to go off before he made the jump on.

~

Next Ranmaru, also needs to die.

He makes a reach on Zen appling a meta appeal to how he should be playing and why him playing differently is a scum tell. Zen claims to be a scum role if not straight up scum, not a tell. Jokes should always be considered a null tell when someone claims a scum role unless they really go ballz deep to make it clear they seriously claim scum.

Ran is no idiot to Zen either, he knows full well what Zen does as town when he goes off, so do I which is why he is town for me for the most part. Zen has claimed scum before as a joke well after RvS, and I'm pretty sure Ran has been present in games where this has happened. It's garbage when you read the forced reactions from Ran where he says, "Idk you do X usually" in his #113.

~

I'm not voting Tekcat.
I'm not voting T-Block.
I'm not voting Gorf.
I'm not voting Zen.
80% sure on this for Joey.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Oh an Vote: Xonar

 

[Ramen King]

Vote: Ranmaru

 

[#HBC | Ryker]

Night !

 

[#HBC | ZoZo]

Theres a catchup post til last time I checked on thr PC, but today is kinda busy.

Ill post it asap then catch up.

 

[#HBC | ZoZo]

Herro.

Back from the ban :3

Apologies in advance, I can't quote while banned.

I've been keeping up with the game, here are my results:

To tunnel me.

That's pretty eww. Especially because he's doing that right now.

I want to look at his approach and compare it to the start of Ryker mafia and how he treated Swiss.

Alright, this is perfectly fine. But look at this;

Xonar don't like how he approached me on my not giving content. Defiantly looks like Ryker mafia with what he did with Swiss, I'll reread it later.

Which is disgusting. Especially when related to what Ryker said. You're going to make one hell of a case to justify comparing what I did to Swiss to what I'm doing/I did with you.

And then there's the case of using meta on me.

And the rest of the post is DISGUSTING AS HELL.

Vote: Red Ruy/b]

Xonar, why did you pick RR to originally pressure, instead of people like Gorf or Tekcat, who both were not doing much?

Have elaborated on this before. Don't know if legit dumb or really bad at thinking before talking.
Really not sure what to think of Dark House at the moment. I know I give bad players a pass real easily.
On the other hand, he doesn't really do anything that terrible. The fact that he constantly rehashes information is something I would expect out of him and his level. Especially with information EATING players like me, Ryker and Zen. We three are basically the most active players on all of dGames.

On the other hand, his extreme lack of new information and lack of thinking as an individual sets me off.

I'm really cautious though. I know Dark House was one of the easiest mislynches I've ever to my disposal in the majority of FL, and even had a legit scum read on him.

*sigh*

Surface level? Scum.
Meta level? Mixed bag.

Dark Horse do you still think Ranmaru is scum?

This quote is very wrong.
Not for what's in it, but for what's not in it.

Zen knows what happened in Ryker mafia. He knows it's a bad thing to meta me. Yet, he never comments on Red Ruy's comment w.r.t me.

Your play in this game already is striking me as different than the many other games John has played with you, and I do not like it.

Ewwwwwww. Very eww.
Would prefer TakcaT route at this point.


Holy **** Kantrip is in this game didn't realize.

Like this post. Dooms leaning town.

Do not like. Too careful. Keeping options open?

I like Xonar's style of posting like this when he gives a little bit of explanation like he does here.

Slight town lean on Xonar. His reads are similar to mine too, which is neat and has never happened before with anyone.

I actually really like this. It fits with what I expect out of Kantrip, being really careful around me. Especially after FL is the last game we played together. He probably witnessed Gigabots too.

I actually have a solid town read on Kantrip now. Good shee~


Later edit:
I've actually thought about Kantrip some more. I want to see more before saying I have a town on Kantrip. He keeps his stances very non-committal, but that might be due to the fact that he's being careful.
Meh.
It is just very unusual. Usually Kantrip keeps chasing and never gives up his single stance. Don't know if improving or just...

The other thing here is his ability. Pressure does NOT seem pro-town.

Mhm.

I actually want to see more by Kantrip about RamZen and the other way around.
I think I found something here... (!)



Regardless.
I read Ryker's gambit yesterday before going to bed. At first I was mad, because Ryker never fakeclaims Vig. He told me that.
Then things started not lining up.

Alright. Work with me here because I haven't worked it out entirely yet.
First let's write down some factors:
Kantrip has Pressure
Ryker claimed Vig and wants to shoot me/Kantrip and lynch the other
Almost nobody down for lynching either
Ryker doesn't pursue
This is sloppyRyker maybe?



First of all, Ryker claimed Vig and wants to lynch Xonar/Kantrip and shoot the other.

The first problem I encounter is that he never tries to pursue these reads. He never convinces anyone. I know Ryker, and Ryker tries to convince people of his reads. I learned something very important from Ryker: "Don't expect others to win the game for you."
But that doesn't fit the current Ryker at all with regards to this.
Then again, this is probably sloppyRyker we're dealing with.

Another semi-counterpoint is that he has Red Ruy as follower and could probably convince TeckaT and Dark House because they would die otherwise. That's 4 votes total. (5 if you count JTB, but eh).
Four isn't enough though.


Problem two: "The other will be getting lynched today. Sort that out amongst yourselves."

We all know that abilities this game work with PP. Now, Ryker is a smart guy. He analyzes and he's literally years ahead of most players this game except me obv.

Now, why would this guy even CONSIDER shooting Kantrip when he has Pressure?
He could fake more PP by demanding to shoot me, if he even has only 1PP.
But he doesn't demand it.
This is my biggest qualm. Why would he tell us to sort it out ourselves when his optimal plan is far from the actual optimal plan?


Then there's the third point of him telling me he never fakeclaims dayvig and using it as meta to get away with this? Meh.


Problem three: "Yeah Xonar you got me this was a gambit good detective work bro" - hypothetical Ryker

NOPE.
It couldn't have been a gambit. I know Ryker, if it was a gambit he would've done it earlier. With this amount of time left AND denying an extension, he would've done it earlier to garner more reaction and gain more control. That's what Ryker does.

*Another point with Ryker I figured
Why the hell would he claim vig this early in the game? If he really is a vig it is probably PP limited. I doubt that he'd shoot off of a D1 read rather then save it for when reads are more well-defined.


Now, this is either scumRyker or townRyker with the sloppiest gambit ever.
Or he's telling the truth and playing it REALLY REALLY bad.

One thing is that Ryker knows Laundry's question system and could've abused it to get the vig. Mhm.


Now, Ryker, if you insist on shooting me, which is the only logical option available from your point of view, even when others are telling you to shoot someone else, then tell me. I have something you REALLY want to know if you REALLY aren't gambiting and want to shoot me.
REALLY.

Considering voting Ryker here. Want to see him more first.


sorry for the chaos there, I might've still missed things (and I did, it's up there now though).
I wanted to wait til Kantrip reacted til I posted this, but he did. Let's get to that.



But wow this caught my attention:

Seriously this town really really sucks. No way we are winning this. May replace out of this.

Which reminds me of something else Zen said earlier that really was stuck in my mind. Don't remember it though. Errrr.

Anyway.

Kantrip's responses are pretty legit imo.

Tblock's 336 once again aligns with my thoughts.
and I am pretty darn confident in my ability to read T-Block.
Town.


Vote: TekcaT[/b
Vote: Dark House[/b
Vote: Red Ruy[/b

I also don't like Nabe too much, but he needs to post more.

T-Block's 351 is peculiar. I can see where he's coming from though.

Read it all. I like Kantrip actually, but can still be scum with RamenZen.

Latest post by DH (370) looks very picture perfect, lol. Meh. I don't mind him being vigged.

Eww Gorf's 374 reads VERY bad to me especially because T-Block commented ON THAT EXACT POST in 336 and on T-Block overall.

note: editted all votes out for nohammer sake.

 

[#HBC | ZoZo]

Man that post is chaotic. Ohwell. Gonna read up now.

 

[#HBC | ZoZo]

Idk, just doing whatever Ryker tells me to do.

If you think ew oh well, just giving my thoughts and such.

Your a town lean, but I'm cautious because I didn't like one of your votes at all. I do with what you presented but I probably will not be debating on why since it's not my concern atm.

Gorf is town btw.

Doing what Ryker tells you to but you're giving YOUR thoughts? I want to call this a contradiction but it's just peculiar.

Actually, never mind. This influx of posts by em are making me feel town.

"em" = Red Ruy?

What made you feel town out of the recent posts?

This is not ok. You don't cop out of this game because you didn't get a quicklynch.

This is eww. Why did you feel the need to comment on this at all?

Comments on Ranmaru throw me off. I need to re-read that guy.

I like this post better than Ruy's other ****, but letting Ryker control your vote is bull**** and you will stop that.

Lot of wishy-washy half-stances though.

How much of a hypocrite you are.

There's a BIG difference between "I like this post" and "I like this post better than Ruy's other ****".

This would've been a straight-out contradiction if you said you liked this post. Now you're just being a hypocrite. AND doing something scummy.

Kantrip so mad. So so mad.
I'll tell you right now Kanty that Shotty hasn't posted once in this thread yet. I was tring to feign an opposite side to see how you would react. It's netted me some interesting info from you.

RED FLAG
Count this as a friggin TekcaT vote.

But why's he scummy? I mean, if he keeps this up take em out, but his posts where he's done **** have actually been good.

@Kantrip I still read leaning scum on you, and from your exchange with Teckat my opinion of you is no less or more, but my opinion of Teckat is moreso townie tbh.

Gorf your voice is pretty cool but your reads are ****ty.

Follow my lead.

Serious.

Xonar looks like how he played in _____ kind of, I'll reread later."

Like what? Fire Lightning? Utrick'd?
I'm in no ongoing games atm.

This and this is pig disgusting. GG Red Ruy

This post warrants a TekcaT lynch, lol.

Read T-Block and Raziek's posts, nah.

unvote

T-Block gets my vote for the rest of today until otherwise stated.

...
V0at: blue ken (dont count that obv)

Sigh.

Took a 5 minute break.
Not sure what to think about Red Ruy anymore. I might have to drop the whole vote lending thing. Red Ruy's gambits are not alignment dependent, but it's dirty as hell.

Ugh.

He's even coolguying though
That's a scumtell.

I'm completely serious about my Vig claim and my promise of shooting one of them in the face. Xonar will take me at my word and claim. Kantrip will be shot in the face if he doesn't let me bully the thread with no effort.

That said, I'm home and am going to play Fire Emblem until I fall asleep.

Shoot Kantrip > Lose 2 PP
Shoot me > won't be fun

I promise.

Shoot someone else. Or wait and develop reads.
If you even have a shot.

Vote myself? Ok.

Vote: Red Ruy

Good job.

I'm not gonna sit here and let people over and over in each game reference stupid **** meta in every game I played, people tried to pull this back in Shining Force over the obvious scum and that was dumb as ****.

Even more so when I know he's played with me when I was scum and didn't lurk due to irl johns. Only time it was intentional was FFT.

I mad and salty.

**** meta, I just want you deader than dead regardless.


Do you people really want me to reply to Red Ruy's post? Because it's a mess and I really don't know where to start :v

Lemme try to bring some more order to my previous post.

 

[#HBC | ZoZo]

This game is chaos in my head right now.

1. Ryker
2. DOOMS
3. Xonar
4. Raziek
5. TekcaT (John/Johnbro Hydra)
6. Gorf
7. Dark Horse
8. Red Ruy
9. Soup~
10. Ranmaru
11. Nabe
12. Kantrip
13. T-Block
14. JTB

Tekky, Dark House, Blue Ken, Razamatata maybe and maaaaaaaybe Ryker depending on his reaction can warrant a vote.

Not too fond of Gorf and Nabe.
Gotta reread Ranmaru.

Dooms and T-Block are solid town reads. Kantrip goes to lean town.

JTB is null.

@Pimp: Votecount plz

 

[#HBC | ZoZo]

An analysis of Ryker's vig ****

Ryker's Gambit​

Chapter 1: Ryker convinces people... or does he?​

Ryker is a cool guy. He convinces people.
He taught me that you can't expect others to win the game for you.
THIS is the guy that was able to swing a L-1 wagon to a completely different player, without real arguments or previous scumminess besides "irking people" in Higurashi for me.

Now, he has Kantrip and Xonar on his scum list, right? But he NEVER does anything to convince people. He doesn't personally appeal to them. Nothing. He just claims vig and expects people to follow.

At the time of wanting this, he had Red Ruy's vote. That's two votes. Then there were TekcaT and Dark House who were both under pressure. That's four votes. JTB joined later, but he wasn't aware of that at the moment.

Now, he has ~four votes. WHY doesn't he try to convince others? It's not like he can stall out the lynch like he did in UTrick'd2. This is irking.

Chapter 2: Ryker is a true vig!.. right?​

"The other will be getting lynched today. Sort that out amongst yourselves."

By Ryker.

Now, we are all aware that abilities cost PP. Ryker knows this. The only people in the game that probably don't have PP is scum, because they have to shoot each night. Or they just have a lot of PP. Regardless...


Why would this guy even CONSIDER shooting Kantrip when Kantrip's ability is pressure?
We have established that moves cost PP. Why would he even consider shooting Kantrip in that case? Four possible explanations:
1. He has no vig shot
2. He is sloppy town ryker doing a bad gambit
3. He has a vig shot and it's 1pp and he didn't think about it
4. He's scum with a lot of PP

Now, this is all very dumb.
I don't expect Ryker to not consider Pressure, to be honest. He can DEMAND to shoot me, to fake out having more PP, which would threaten anti-town.

This is my biggest qualm. Why would he tell us to sort it out ourselves when his optimal plan is far from the actual optimal plan?

Chapter 3: Ryker just gambited!.. waaaaaiiiiiiit a minute​

"Yeah Xonar you got me this was a gambit good detective work bro" - hypothetical Ryker

No cigar.
The timing doesn't make sense with regards to it being a gambit. He would've done it to garner reactions. The optimal situation for this is earlier. However, Ryker does it later during the day AND denies a deadline extension. He also gives up on control.

Ryker does NEVER give up on control.

Chapter 4: Ryker is pretty smart... No, really. Just not this time.​

WHY would you claim an ability like vig, that is probably, no, definitely, limited by PP, this early in the game?

NO. SENSE.


Now, Ryker, if you insist on shooting me, which is the only logical option available from your point of view, even when others are telling you to shoot someone else, then tell me. I have something you REALLY want to know if you REALLY aren't gambiting and want to shoot me.
REALLY.



There we go.

 

[#HBC | ZoZo]

I had a question but forgot it.

Now I'm going to let this game sink in and decide who I want to lynch today.

 

[#HBC | ZoZo]

Oh right.

Kantrip stance on RamenZen
RamenZen stance on Kantrip

 

[Dooms]

@Ryu: 80% sure on what for me?

I'd say more, but gtg school.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Town.

Xonar will respond to my large post or die.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

God how your approaching me is mechanical, no indication of any scum intent in this or what I supposedly gain from this from that perspective.

You hate what I did, but offer nothing to an end to the means of that.

 

[#HBC | ZoZo]

You calling me mechanical?

Now that's irony.

 

[#HBC | ZoZo]

I'll reread you though. Just for you.

 

[#HBC | ZoZo]

Also Ryker have you read the entire game?

 

[#HBC | ZoZo]

Alright I'm just going to go through Ruy's posts and say whatever comes to mind.

Vote: TekcaT

Disturbing. Looking at the context, there's enough to be said at this point, yet you don't. Instead, you take time to make a post. A post that accomplishes nothing. We're pretty much out of RVS at this point, so **** that reasoning.

The disturbing thing is that this accomplishes nothing. Why take time to make some random *** post?

Tempted to do an OS like lottery to give someone my vote, dunno yet need to think about it.

The bad thing about this gambit is the fact that words can be twisted, votes cannot. When you throw a vote down, it's different from commenting.
Giving someone else your vote obviously allows you to dodge responsibilities to some degree. Now there's cool kids running around telling you to take stances of course, but the premise of someone else having your vote is bad.

You want to push your lynches, right? How are you going to convince others when you can't even throw your own vote down?
If you're going to claim that it's for the sake of scumhunting, you're going to have a lot of explaining to do. So you can get to that.

How funny, btw haven't read much except saw John vote me and gave him a Lucario nudge. I trust Gorf to fill me in on whats up and if giving Ryker my vote is ok.

This disturbs me further. Only a few pages in, someone already has to fill you in. Great bro, how you gonna catch scumtells like that? Telling me I'm not looking for intention while this post is ewww as **** w.r.t intentions is funny, to say the least.
Asking Gorf to tell you whether the vote thing is okay is a cool thing tho. I can dig that.

Nabe who are your scummates?

Yeah. No. That's not scumhunting. It's IMPLYING you think Nabe is scum after 1 post. Or a reaction test I guess? You never even followed up on it though, even when Nabe never gave a satisfactory reply. Hell, he even dodged it.

Btw you caught me I am the Lich, Evil Roleblocking Yakuza.

WL should let me get into a 3 man lylo like Circus didn't so I can recruit Raziek like i wanted to in that game.

And yeah this is pretty ew. But Null I guess?

Beware of Joey's metaknight Zen, my Donkey Kong cried when it got KO'd by it. Though that is nothing like the terror that is his Jigglypuff.

Also probs will be seriously later but not now, work and me maybe being out late tonight will hold me back from reading for the moment.

Ryker still gets my vote, since I wanna see where this goes.

ADMITS that Gorf's answer wouldn't have mattered towards his vote. Just an empty post overall.

Content what is that?

Gee Red Ruy, dunno, haven't seen any of you yet :v

First content post by Red Ruy

I really just wanna call Zen town off what he did and how he has been playing, I hate it to hell which is a town tell to me.

Don't like Ran either, he went on a tangent over how Zen approached RvS and took him claiming scum as a scum tell because it is Zen when really anyone claiming a scum role should be taken as a null unless they intent to go through with it all the way and claim scum. Which they do not do without a reason I might add.

T-Block isn't starting as scum like in old games with him, town lean in a sense where I like , mostly needs a look closer at intent. Don't like his DH vote in his #227 since it seems premature, but at the same time idk how familiar T-Block is with Zen off hand, since what DH said is the truth in a sense from my past game experience. Still comfortable with him here, might get my vote later if I ever dislike intently where Ryker might put it.

Ryker though, like the Xonar suspicion. He can have my vote and control it.

Joey is approaching this game pretty well I'd say. Idk how to put it into words right now.

Xonar don't like how he approached me on my not giving content. Defiantly looks like Ryker mafia with what he did with Swiss, I'll reread it later.

Idk about anyone else.

Meh few different things about this post:
Don't like how generic the stances are. Especially Ranmaru. Joey is pretty obvious, but I have no clue why he has no idea how to put it into words right now. His comment on Ryker is meaningless and null. No comments on anyone else is pretty eww and his comment on Zen is pretty null.
I like the detail in T-Block somewhat. But the relation between this mafia and Ryker mafia is poopie and seems like artificially incriminating me.

So yeah. It's not all bad, but pri bad.

Idk, just doing whatever Ryker tells me to do.

If you think ew oh well, just giving my thoughts and such.

Your a town lean, but I'm cautious because I didn't like one of your votes at all. I do with what you presented but I probably will not be debating on why since it's not my concern atm.

Gorf is town btw.

Spoiler

You really need to stop confusing your and you're, it hurts

Like I said, I don't like how the first two lines work together.

I like the last comment tho. Reminds me of some of my town games.

If I can keep up with this game, I make it a rule to not replace out but I made my old dumb mistake of too many games. I won't since there is a stipulation with this game, but I might cause stagnation if I stay, I don't like that I'm conflicted on this.

Plus I'm not really reading that much that seems scummy to me outside of what Xonar did earlier, I guess Kantrip too if I sheep Ryker's Reasoning.

Joey we should talk on skype btw.

Sooo... your concern is not reading T-Block, but keeping up with the game?
Uhhh...

Alrighty. Pretty empty post.

Convince me that I should actively oppose the Kantrip lynch/whoever Ryker tells me to vote and you get my vote for the rest of the day.

I... actually like this. Yeah. This is a good way to use the gambit. Not his previous use though. I guess asking Gorf was good but he never followed up on that.

July thought so Shining Force.

This is disgusting. Especially when you show how to do self-meta the right way the next post.

Read T-Block and Raziek's posts, nah.

unvote

T-Block gets my vote for the rest of today until otherwise stated.

:v alright...
Looks like the post I liked was not important to you. Great, Ruy.

Slight town read and I think he can handle my vote, gotta agree with a lazy Ryker and that for Kantrip it's not that far away from what he does sometimes.

That and I want T-Block to use my vote.

Well at least that's shaping up so far. Like this post.

Ewww coolguy.

Nah no reason to do that.

Dislike Xonar but he got banned and that stopped, still want him dead.

Ranmaru gots more to see a lynch at this point I thinks, early game reach on Zen was bad.

I got town reads, but not many scum reads, just going off what others are saying for now.

Uhm.
Why the comment about my ban? :v
But holy hell that last sentence Ruy.
That last sentence.

I look at Ruy, and he'd be trying to NOT put himself in this position as scum.

Naw bro Ruy pulls dumb gambits regardless of alignment.

T-Block isn't being fun :<

Joey you get my vote, tell me who I vote.

Now you're just pushing it. Goddamnit Ruy. This me no likey. This is bad use of your gambit.

L-2 huh?

nah.

unvote

Tells me I should take this seriously, let me finish a Angelic Layer rewatch of this episode and I will.

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Haven't been taking it seriously, thus a cop out for pretty much everything.
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In conclusion, Ruy has been "ewww". Don't know if it constitutes to purely anti-town or if there are scummy undertones in there.
One thing I am sure of is that there's a lack of town intent.

Meh. Have to think this over. Leaning towards leaving Ruy around simply because he promised content saying

I should take this seriously

I'll have to read over the case once more.

Second, Xonar still needs to die, what he did was different from RazzlePuff and what he did. Xonar tried to apply a skill test to me in how I give content over looking at an overall read of the situation.

Admitting to it not being Ryker mafia-esque. That I do like. He's also correct in his assessment, however, he fails to acknowledge that it's weird to post a comment without prior reading etc.
I expect someone of his skill to give me fresh content, especially when there's enough to comment on. Not weird. A post like that is activity without content.

This is before I tried to blatantly sheep and give nothing, he immediately goes for a call out and wants a lynch because I gave Ryker my vote for the day. Note RazzlePuff wanted this when I actively ate out of Ryker's hand for the later portion of this. What separates me with Dark Horse is player skill, but that doesn't make sense with what he responded to T-Block with. This isn't a subject of content in terms of reads and reactions, this is a subject of getting rid of actual garbage over someone trying to make some form of content, me = Garbage DH = content.

Hold your horses right there, cowboy.
I want a lynch? Since when do people, except RamenZen, go for a lynch on page 3-4?

Also, what I was saying is "I expect someone of his skill to give me fresh content, especially when there's enough to comment on. Not weird."
Like I said towards The Block, I expect Dark House to rehash information from time to time. That's why he gets more leeway.

He expects better from me right? But of what from what I posted and if so why does my skill have to do with this? This is about me lurking and actively not giving content to town over DH who he expected to give bad content from what I read.

Noooooooooooooooo
It's about you actively not giving content to town over DH who I expect less of, and need more time to get a good read on because he's prone to rehashing information :v

I don't see why skill should have any indicator about content at all.

The same way someone with as hot as me gets more chicks than you. If you're proficient at something, it's not weird that results follow.

Onto his Ranmaru part;

Next Ranmaru, also needs to die.

He makes a reach on Zen appling a meta appeal to how he should be playing and why him playing differently is a scum tell. Zen claims to be a scum role if not straight up scum, not a tell. Jokes should always be considered a null tell when someone claims a scum role unless they really go ballz deep to make it clear they seriously claim scum.

Ran is no idiot to Zen either, he knows full well what Zen does as town when he goes off, so do I which is why he is town for me for the most part. Zen has claimed scum before as a joke well after RvS, and I'm pretty sure Ran has been present in games where this has happened. It's garbage when you read the forced reactions from Ran where he says, "Idk you do X usually" in his #113.

Alright... but look at Ranmaru's later posts. For as far as I can recall, it gave me some good vibes.

You're using RvS as a basis for a lynch/solid scum read. ****, that's disgusting.

Yeah that content post doesn't look too good on you. Your points on me can be condensed into
WELL HE EXPECT DARK HORSE TO BE WORSE THAN ME GUYS WHY?
and your point against Ranmaru is
HURRR IN RVS HE CALLED ZEN SCUM ON A BAD BASIS HURRRR

Good thing I re-read you. This makes more sense.

If this is the content you will be providing, eat dirt.

I need to re-read Ranmaru.
I need to re-read Raziek because I skimmed him mainly.

Ryker Ps: you're not going to shoot me for multiple reasons, so work with me baby.

I have a nagging voice in my head telling me to get Gorf. I think I need to get into that dude too.

The lynch pool

is too damn high


4. Raziek
5. TekcaT (John/Johnbro Hydra)
6. Gorf
7. Dark Horse
8. Red Ruy
9. RamenZen
10. Ranmaru
11. Nabe
14. JTB

Actually, at this point I would suggest going with the solid choice of Dark House (crapshoot forever and ever) or TekcaT (Kantrip in other people's cases I guess?). Maybe Ranmaru?
Not a fan of how JTB coasted all day, but I've talked with him lately and he's really busy.
Red Ruy I elaborated on.
Raziek, Gorf, Nabe and RamenZen all deserve more looking into. I don't know why RamenZen is being so hard to read, I'd prefer him to be an open book to me. Not a fan at all of his follow-the-wagon votes.

Most important is rereading Ranmaru -> Kantrip.

That's full thoughts til now.