Laundry's All-Stars Pokemon Mafia -- Pokeballs to the Pokewalls!

[#HBC | Gorf]

Jeez wit dem questions O.o

Not really. Yea. Yes. A mix of both. Cuz it's an interesting way that reading John must be done, I'll explain it post game if need be, but I won't explain it now.

@Raz meh. I suppose.

 

[Kantrip]

I thought the post where he did stuff was one of the worst, and I think T-block did too. The post contained:

"I hate what Zen did so he's probably town.

I don't like what Ran did because he went on about Zen claiming scum in RvS when that should be null because no one claims scum.

T-block isn't acting like he has in some scum games with him.

Ryker can have my vote.

Joey is playing well but idk how to explain why,

Xonar looks like how he played in _____ kind of, I'll reread later."

Underlined is a RR scumtell, obvs. Putting things off like that. It's how I made my case on him in FF Tactics (even though I was scum too, but it still applies )

 

[Kantrip]

Okay, I can understand the overreaction to pressure because I do that a lot and it's really scummy and I have no defense against that.

However, could you tell me what was wrong with my content? Or anyone? Ryker would be nice to see this from, too.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

I've skimmed to catch this wagon, and this **** looks stanky. Ruy blatantly sheeping Ryker is ****ing disgusting.

Doing hard re-read now that I actually have time.

Convince me that I should actively oppose the Kantrip lynch/whoever Ryker tells me to vote and you get my vote for the rest of the day.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Underlined is a RR scumtell, obvs. Putting things off like that. It's how I made my case on him in FF Tactics (even though I was scum too, but it still applies )

July thought so Shining Force.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

My question was worded kind of badly.

I'm trying to say I don't think TekcaT is scum with DH since they are putting DH as #1 scum and openly wanting the lynch to go in that direction. I feel they are more likely to be scum with RR because he is apparently still "leaning scum" for them. Yet when you asked about DH and RR they said they weren't seeing him as scum. This discrepency is point 2 for me.

Then the driving home meta is knowing that RR likes bussing and distancing so it would make sense for his scummates to be calling him scummy but for John/Shotty to obviously not want him actually lynched.

Basically I was just asking you if you saw the Takc/RR connection more likely than a Takc/DH connection, because I do.

IDK why people think they know my meta so well as scum, it's game dependent lol.

 

[TekcaT]

This is before I had even interacted with the TekcaT slot. I had qualms with them and even FoS'd them in my next post. With my vote being on Red Ruy, it should be implied that they are my second scum pick to RR when I FoS them:

In other words, RVS.

This FoS also happens during a conversation with Shotty where Shotty calls me scum for my play being "different to others he had skimmed of me and John". Not only is this really not true, but there's also no way this is a legitimate reason.

@Shotty: Tell me what my play was like in the games you skimmed. Which games did you skim? Why was my play here different?

We both have sat down and reviewed past games of yours. We both agree that you are acting strange as compared to them.

Then John comes in and FoS's me because I'm "exploding at nothing". Nothing about John's FoS refers to my play being "different from the norm". In fact, exploding at poorly-substantiated votes is very normal for my town play.

OhMyGawdYouSuck

Then I voted them, swapping theirs and Red Ruy's places on my scum list. At this point, I'm pretty sure they had a premeditated plan to vote me. Probably John's idea: "Hey let's gang up on Kanty since he reacts badly to pressure." Something like that. That's WIFOM though, and not important right now. It's just what my thought process was.

Yes, we had this elaborate plan that John cooked up to get you lynched instantly.

Yeah.

He calls me out on OMGUS. It's HERE that I start to suspect John hasn't read my content. He would have seen me FoS his slot earlier, but he calls it OMGUS now because he's only seen me say "TekcaT is scum", which happened after he FoS'd me. I had my FoS on his slot first, though, and he would have seen that if he had read my catchup posts. But wait, there's more!

We've read your posts Kanty. As much as you don't want to believe it.

The whole "you're better than this" is really scummy, too. John has done it before as scum as a sort of AtE. Meta, also not important right now. Again, it was part of my thought process.

John has done this as both town and scum. You're reaching.

He doesn't correct me, and he doesn't fix his mistake and refer to the proper posts. Instead, he elaborates on the posts from after there was pressure on me. If this doesn't prove that he neglected to even LOOK at my catchup posts, what does it mean?

That's a darn good question there. Shame we have read you.

Maybe he missed them, and didn't know they even existed? Possible. But then he's still scum, and I'll explain why.

We are waiting with bated breath for this groundbreaking story

Deflection. I tell him he was looking at the wrong posts, quite calmly as you see here, and he does this. He's trying to end the conversation since he has been called out in a lie.

Sorry bro. If anyone was trying to end it, it was Freeblock. We showed no sign of "Oh golly gee, let's stop here before things get crazy.[/quote]

Again he tries to change the subject by asking useless **** about "when I interacted with both heads". He has completely moved away from the topic at hand, and for what? What's the town motive for asking this question. He knows DAMN WELL that I HAVE interacted with both heads of the hydra, so WHY does he need me to prove it?

And this helped us to realize that the feigned Shotty went right over you. You were not reading into them and seeing John.

If anyone can tell me this I'll back off, but there is NO REASON TOWN WOULD DO THIS.

YOU ARE RIGHT AND WE SHOULD FEEL BAD

Here we go. He says that both heads agree my playstyle is out of the norm. The part that Shotty said was out of the norm was my catchup posts. The part that John never read, never referred to, and never even knew existed are my catchup posts. He makes YET ANOTHER effort to change the subject by calling for T-block's help (T-block is not scum with TekcaT from this) and asking T-block's opinion on my play.

Hey guys, Kanty made catchup posts.

T-block says it's pretty similar to how I always play, but he still doesn't like it. I can respect that. I can't respect the flat-out lies I got from BOTH HEADS of the TekcaT hydra.

And their noses grew 8 inches that day

I don't want to replace out, but I'm definitely not fit to be playing mafia. I'm freaking out over the littlest things and it's overall just not fun for me right now. What I hate is how Ryker can get a lynch off on me without ever lifting a finger, and how I have to do so much ****ing work just to convince anyone of anything. I really didn't enjoy making this post, so when it's ****ty, I'm sorry.

AtE at its finest, guys.


We have things to attend to, will be back later.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Read T-Block and Raziek's posts, nah.

unvote

T-Block gets my vote for the rest of today until otherwise stated.

 

[Dooms]

TekCat, what in the hell are you doing this game?

Trying to play as the other half of a hydra to trick someone?

Tekcat's response to Kantrip is bad. I'm gonna let him respond before I say why, but wow lol.

Gord, what about Ryu's posts made you decide that he looked more townie and essentially made you 180 on Ryu himself? Without your explanation, it looks like you're just trying to get him out of being lynched.

Why do you favor Tekcat over Kantrip? What has Tekcat done specifically?

Ryu, why T-block? I don't think you've stated why at all.

I plan on having some reads out soon. Feeling just iffy on too many players, though. Need to re-read Ranmaru, Kantrip, Tekcat, Gordtio, and Red Ryu. They're all slight scum reads for me. Also need to re-read Xonar and Raziek. They're slight-town. Everyone else is null. I basically need to re-read to solidify my reads.

I'll re-read when I'm not aggravated and sick haha.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Slight town read and I think he can handle my vote, gotta agree with a lazy Ryker and that for Kantrip it's not that far away from what he does sometimes.

That and I want T-Block to use my vote.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Also get better soon :<

 

[Dooms]

OH, I misunderstood what you meant by "gets your vote"

I thought you meant that you were going to vote him.

Sorry about that xD.

 

[Raziek]

Convince me that I should actively oppose the Kantrip lynch/whoever Ryker tells me to vote and you get my vote for the rest of the day.

First off, I don't want your vote. I want you to start ****ing thinking, and stop coasting like ScumRuy does.

Second, because Ryker has done LITERALLY NOTHING to earn such sheeping in the slightest, other than being Ryker.

You're sheeping him entirely based on reputation, and you will stop or die.

 

[Raziek]

In other words, RVS.



We both have sat down and reviewed past games of yours. We both agree that you are acting strange as compared to them.

This needs elaboration or it's entirely empty content.

OhMyGawdYouSuck



Yes, we had this elaborate plan that John cooked up to get you lynched instantly.

Yeah.



We've read your posts Kanty. As much as you don't want to believe it.


John has done this as both town and scum. You're reaching.


That's a darn good question there. Shame we have read you.


We are waiting with bated breath for this groundbreaking story




Sorry bro. If anyone was trying to end it, it was Freeblock. We showed no sign of "Oh golly gee, let's stop here before things get crazy.

And this helped us to realize that the feigned Shotty went right over you. You were not reading into them and seeing John.



YOU ARE RIGHT AND WE SHOULD FEEL BAD



Hey guys, Kanty made catchup posts.


And their noses grew 8 inches that day


AtE at its finest, guys.


We have things to attend to, will be back later.[/QUOTE]
The rest of this post is outright lazy and deflection on almost all counts, you've failed to illustrate any scummy intent here on Kantrip's part, IMO.

 

[Raziek]

EBWOP because I screwed the pooch on formatting:

In other words, RVS.



We both have sat down and reviewed past games of yours. We both agree that you are acting strange as compared to them.

This needs elaboration or it's entirely empty content.

OhMyGawdYouSuck



Yes, we had this elaborate plan that John cooked up to get you lynched instantly.

Yeah.



We've read your posts Kanty. As much as you don't want to believe it.


John has done this as both town and scum. You're reaching.


That's a darn good question there. Shame we have read you.


We are waiting with bated breath for this groundbreaking story




Sorry bro. If anyone was trying to end it, it was Freeblock. We showed no sign of "Oh golly gee, let's stop here before things get crazy.



And this helped us to realize that the feigned Shotty went right over you. You were not reading into them and seeing John.



YOU ARE RIGHT AND WE SHOULD FEEL BAD



Hey guys, Kanty made catchup posts.


And their noses grew 8 inches that day


AtE at its finest, guys.


We have things to attend to, will be back later.

The rest of this post is outright lazy and deflection on almost all counts, you've failed to illustrate any scummy intent here on Kantrip's part, IMO.

 

[Ramen King]

Tekcat mason?

 

[Dooms]

...Dang it Raz >_<'.

I don't like Tekcat trying to defend himself based on how he assumes his meta plays out, but Kantrip does the same thing. Makes me like them less, but Kantrip did the same thing against them. Not sure if either is legit since I don't have meta on either, but still.

Explain how they're reaching, Tekcat. It'd be awesome if you said something besides the "This is how my meta is, not what you assume it to be."

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

First off, I don't want your vote. I want you to start ****ing thinking, and stop coasting like ScumRuy does.

Second, because Ryker has done LITERALLY NOTHING to earn such sheeping in the slightest, other than being Ryker.

You're sheeping him entirely based on reputation, and you will stop or die.

 

[Raziek]

vote: Red Ruy

Gorf, Joey, T-Block, Zen, let's go. Wagon this scummy ****.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

OH, I misunderstood what you meant by "gets your vote"

I thought you meant that you were going to vote him.

Sorry about that xD.

Nah no reason to do that.

Dislike Xonar but he got banned and that stopped, still want him dead.

Ranmaru gots more to see a lynch at this point I thinks, early game reach on Zen was bad.

I got town reads, but not many scum reads, just going off what others are saying for now.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

vote: Red Ruy

Gorf, Joey, T-Block, Zen, let's go. Wagon this scummy ****.

Implies I can be lynched.

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

Gord, what about Ryu's posts made you decide that he looked more townie and essentially made you 180 on Ryu himself? Without your explanation, it looks like you're just trying to get him out of being lynched.

That's actually exactly what I'm try'na do.

Why do you favor Tekcat over Kantrip? What has Tekcat done specifically?

Don't get me wrong. Teckat's ********. But the fact of the matter is that he's scumhunting, and it's not coming across as disingenuous. That's literally all that makes me feel John is town. Yes, John. Because that's how you read John.

 

[Dooms]

Why are you trying to do that, though? I could understand you getting him out of a lynch if you provided reasoning so it actually looked somewhat townie...

What has Ryu done to justify the 180 from when you thought he was slight scum?

How is Tekcat scum hunting at all? I don't see him breaking down any of Kantrip's intent at all, and he's definitely not presenting himself as a person that is willing to do anything in this game besides sit there and look ugly.

(<3 John you're not ugly!)

 

[Dooms]

@Raziek, Let me check where my vote is and let me see what I've previously said about Ryu. Can't remember how I felt about him before today due illness @_@'. I'll get back to ya ASAP.

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

@Joey

I look at Ruy, and he'd be trying to NOT put himself in this position as scum. There's a difference between scummy and anti town. Granted, if he's gonna be this ******** as the game progresses, we kill him off. But there are better targets at tis point.

And about John, he scumhunts really really really badly. It's meta, but it's correct meta that he hasn't, and I'm sure is incapable of, changing.

 

[Kantrip]

On my iPod right now but LOL@TekcaT calling my early suspicion on them RvS.

Will get to the rest because I want to

 

[Kantrip]

Vote Red Ruy

 

[#HBC | Ryker]

Kantrip, I'm not going to support your lynch, JFYI. Don't intend to let Ryker bully the thread with no effort.

I'm completely serious about my Vig claim and my promise of shooting one of them in the face. Xonar will take me at my word and claim. Kantrip will be shot in the face if he doesn't let me bully the thread with no effort.

That said, I'm home and am going to play Fire Emblem until I fall asleep.

 

[#HBC | Ryker]

Kantrip, your reaction was so damn over the top, but that's not a scumtell for you.

I lied, more mafia.

Why?

 

[Dooms]

@Joey

I look at Ruy, and he'd be trying to NOT put himself in this position as scum. There's a difference between scummy and anti town. Granted, if he's gonna be this ******** as the game progresses, we kill him off. But there are better targets at tis point.

And about John, he scumhunts really really really badly. It's meta, but it's correct meta that he hasn't, and I'm sure is incapable of, changing.

So your only reasoning is meta? :v.

Define the difference between anti-town and scummy when it comes to Ryu's play. Use specific examples, please.

@Mod: Votecount, please? Thank you! ^_^.

 

[T-block]

goddammit RR. for the record:

what does the third paragraph even mean RR? what is your stance on me? town lean but you warn us you might put your vote on me later? my reasoning for voting DH was presented eventually, and was based entirely on posts before i voted for him. how was it premature? do you disagree with my dislike for him?

this was made under the impression that RR was saying he might vote me later, not give his vote to me.

even so, i still dislike the post, as it still contains that back door to place his vote on me in the future.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Don't intend on it anytime soon from what I have read.

Tell me who to vote btw.

 

[#HBC | Ryker]

Hey Raaaaaaaaaaaaaaaz, hard and well elaborated stance on Xonar.

Also, I will offer you the chance to take Kantrip's place on my to-shoot list next to Xonar if you want to.

:3c

 

[Ramen King]

Vote: Red Ryu

 

[T-block]

on tekcat, i can see the argument, kantrip. and i would probably give it quite a bit of weight if it weren't for the fact that it's john. i agree with gorf here:

That's actually exactly what I'm try'na do.



Don't get me wrong. Teckat's ********. But the fact of the matter is that he's scumhunting, and it's not coming across as disingenuous. That's literally all that makes me feel John is town. Yes, John. Because that's how you read John.

i've read john correctly four times out of four now, including twice as scum. i'm not getting the scumJohn vibe, despite how stupidly he's been playing.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

T-Block isn't being fun :<

Joey you get my vote, tell me who I vote.

 

[T-block]

Don't intend on it anytime soon from what I have read.

Tell me who to vote btw.

read the thread and tell yourself whom to vote

 

[T-block]

or vote yourself if you want

vote: Red Ruy

Gorf, Joey, T-Block, Zen, let's go. Wagon this scummy ****.

i am in - think my vote's already on him

@Joey

I look at Ruy, and he'd be trying to NOT put himself in this position as scum. There's a difference between scummy and anti town. Granted, if he's gonna be this ******** as the game progresses, we kill him off. But there are better targets at tis point.

ew

what the hell kind of defense is that

can you just vote him gorf

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Vote myself? Ok.

Vote: Red Ruy

 

[Raziek]

I lied, more mafia.

Why?

Because I'm fairly certain I've watched him do this before as Town, thus I have no reason to believe his overreaction is a scumtell at this point.