Laser Tag Mini Mafia Over: Gremlins are the Champs

[~ Gheb ~]

I see you trying to say maven misconstrud your posts about the lasers but I never once saw you mention him to be scummy

... you serious?

 

[SlickWylde]

And what would you conclude from that "inconsisteny"? I've blatantly argued that Maven's been scummy while not mentioning Rake once.

... that is an excellent point. I guess I should pay more attention to previous posts :/ Was it a typo? So what makes you vote for Maven? I haven't heard any evidence, but I haven't heard any evidence on ANY of the votes yet so that doesn't mean much.

 

[~ Gheb ~]

He's been misconstruing what I've said.

 

[Orboknown]

... you serious?

one isn't necessarily the other in all cases. you saying he made a mistake (what I took it as)isn't always him trying to frame you because of it. my bad

 

[Shun Goku Satsu Rake]

Nope. Is there an actual reason you think I'm scum?

should i need a actual reason ?

 

[Shun Goku Satsu Rake]

He's been misconstruing what I've said.

but is he specifically going out of his way to misconstrue it and make it scummy or is it just a gaff on his part ?
Also i know you're voting him but shades of grey make this question worth

 

[Shun Goku Satsu Rake]

this question is for maven, slick and jay:

If i asked the you to laser yourself tonight, would you do it ?

 

[Shun Goku Satsu Rake]

actually, lets just make it a everybody question: would you laser yourself ?

 

[Maven89]

is that a bad attempt at role fishing? I'm not sure. I don't think we even can, anyways

Gheb what in my latest post did you feel was misconstruing what you said? I believe I explained myself pretty clearly there

@ SlickWylde I'm not finding Gheb's vote on Rake to be scummy because I don't see the scum intention. he didn't lynch Rake, so he'd have to have his partner come in and do it, which maybe wouldn't be too obvious to a newcomer but in this game that'd basically guarantee they'd both die the next day. And the excuse of "it was a mistake" wouldn't fly if it actually had the guy lynched. Basically if it was scum intention it'd just gurante that Gheb would be blamed for it, and a 1v1 trade is never good for scum due to ratios. As being so early in the day there's so reason for such a risky gambit. But that is the right line of thinking though, semi. Mafia wants a town member lynched without being held responsible for it

 

[Shun Goku Satsu Rake]

you can, and no, it's a question: would you laser yourself tonight ?

 

[Shun Goku Satsu Rake]

there's literally no danger in answering, for example, I would laser myself tonight.

See ?

 

[Maven89]

Why would you laser yourself instead of a scum read?

 

[Maven89]

And no I wouldn't unless you could come up with a good reason

 

[Shun Goku Satsu Rake]

What's a good reason not to lol

 

[Shun Goku Satsu Rake]

I'm not saying I wouldn't point it at a scum read, im just saying i wouldn't ever say i wouldnt point mine at myself

 

[Orboknown]

actually, lets just make it a everybody question: would you laser yourself ?

yes, if it was group consensus and I was the only one left to do it

 

[JayTheUnseen]

yes, if it was group consensus and I was the only one left to do it

Oh, so that was why Rake asked.
This is my answer TBH.

 

[Jdietz43]

With 7 Players it takes 4 to lynch!

1. Orboknown [1] - Maven
2. GiraffeLaserGun [1] - Rake
3. Maven [1] - Gheb
4. JaytheUnseen
5. Gheb [1] - Orboknown
6. SlickWylde
7. Rake

Not Voting: GLG, Slick, Jay

Deadline is Midnight CST Tuesday the 30th!

 

[~ Gheb ~]

but is he specifically going out of his way to misconstrue it and make it scummy or is it just a gaff on his part ?
Also i know you're voting him but shades of grey make this question worth

You're right and I'm actually starting to lean towards the latter. Maven has responded to all my accusations in a pretty level-headed fashion and hasn't made a bigger deal out of it than it neded to be so I have to question whether there was really any scum intent behind his actions. If anybody came out as really suspicious in our exchange it's Orbo imo.

 

[~ Gheb ~]

Unvote

Orbo
Jay / glg
Rake / Maven / Slick

 

[~ Gheb ~]

Also, I would not target myself with the laser gun without a good reason [that I'm failing to see right now].

 

[Orboknown]

mfw I said what rake said in less words and get called scum for it

 

[Orboknown]

similar anyways, just from th other pov

 

[SlickWylde]

And what would you conclude from that "inconsisteny"? I've blatantly argued that Maven's been scummy while not mentioning Rake once.

... that is an excellent point. I guess I should pay more attention to previous posts :/ Was it a typo? So what makes you vote for Maven? I haven't heard any evidence, but I haven't heard any evidence on ANY of the votes yet so that doesn't mean much.

Unvote

Orbo
Jay / glg
Rake / Maven / Slick

What does "
Jay / glg
Rake / Maven / Slick" mean? Are you voting for all of us?

 

[SlickWylde]

Does anybody else have their previous response post with their current response? It's annoying. (Which is why my response to Gheb is posted again, my bad)

 

[~ Gheb ~]

Yeah that can happen if you quote something, write an answer, have it auto-saved and then leave before posting. The quote + response will still be there and can mess up your next posts if you don't delete it manually.

What does "
Jay / glg
Rake / Maven / Slick" mean? Are you voting for all of us?

No that's my current reads. I think Orbo is scum and Jay/glg are the next best players to look into. Rake, Maven and Slick are on the safe side for me right now.

 

[JayTheUnseen]

Deadline is nearing but Orbo is still my top lynch. I guess I'm ready to vote.

Vote Orbo

 

[Shun Goku Satsu Rake]

but guys. GLG is scum

 

[SlickWylde]

but guys. GLG is scum

You've been saying that, is it from his posts, or just your "Gut feeling"?

 

[Orboknown]

oy rake on scale of the FEA to the wall how much can I trust yo on this?

 

[Shun Goku Satsu Rake]

popcorn mafia where i shot kantrip

 

[Shun Goku Satsu Rake]

You've been saying that, is it from his posts, or just your "Gut feeling"?

which makes you vote with me

 

[Orboknown]

popcorn mafia where i shot kantrip

for outside reference that's a high7/10

 

[Shun Goku Satsu Rake]

Orbo are you town ? Do i need to lynch you ? Why aren't you lynching GLG with me

 

[Orboknown]

yes, No, and because wasn't seeing it at all, but I trust you enough to vote at the end o the day with you.

 

[giraffelasergun]

Vote: Rake

 

[Shun Goku Satsu Rake]

GLG, why are you voting me exactly ?

 

[Orboknown]

Vote: Rake

terribad vote

 

[Maven89]

Oh yeah, that makes sense. But that's still helpful I suppose in that it'll stop the mafia for one night?.

In most settups RB's are more useful in trying to pin a person as scum, but here with 3 possible people being rb'd a night with no individual townie positive if a target was actually rb'd (since he can't be sure anyone else targeted the same person as him), the real benefit is knocking out a scum kill. It's basically like a penalty shot where we get an extra chance to find and lynch scum without them being able to do anything about it.

So I guess a worst case scenario is player A and B are mafia, and player C is the Tracker. If we block C D and E, we not only ensure a free kill for the mafia, but then the tracker is blocked. Seems like some people are being awfully cavalier about rbing when it sounds pretty dangerous.

Yeah that seems like the worst case, but the main benefit is that people will target their scummy reads, while mafia will try to target whoever they think the tracker might be. Tracker also has problems this game since even if they track someone to a night kill target, the person could just claim they were lasering them instead, which depending on their past posts and actions might be believable. I'd say the benefits outweigh the risks.

 

[Maven89]

lol fixed

Oh yeah, that makes sense. But that's still helpful I suppose in that it'll stop the mafia for one night?.

In most settups RB's are more useful in trying to pin a person as scum, but here with 3 possible people being rb'd a night with no individual townie positive if a target was actually rb'd (since he can't be sure anyone else targeted the same person as him), the real benefit is knocking out a scum kill. It's basically like a penalty shot where we get an extra chance to find and lynch scum without them being able to do anything about it.

So I guess a worst case scenario is player A and B are mafia, and player C is the Tracker. If we block C D and E, we not only ensure a free kill for the mafia, but then the tracker is blocked. Seems like some people are being awfully cavalier about rbing when it sounds pretty dangerous.

Yeah that seems like the worst case, but the main benefit is that people will target their scummy reads, while mafia will try to target whoever they think the tracker might be. Tracker also has problems this game since even if they track someone to a night kill target, the person could just claim they were lasering them instead, which depending on their past posts and actions might be believable. I'd say the benefits outweigh the risks.