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you can still be grabbed even if you dont flinch though. But I wonder how easy it is to grab someone in the air this time around..
the mercenary smasher is definitely a rare breed (ken's the only successful one I can think of) But that's not what I wanted to imply. I was trying to say it'd be easier to make a clean break if you didn't like the game AND weren't using the smash community as your ATM. For someone like me who has all but quit their main, just mastered shdl and is getting the feel for JC infinites in order for a chance to topple my states current champion it's insulting as hell to work so hard for a late metagame takeover only to be told "in a few months the metagame is gone and you might as well be playing poker or mario party". I'm personally very inclined to drop smash as I'm not "pro" yet and have barely won enough to cover my entrance fees, so why waste my time learning a game that behind all the glitter is boring, shallow, and makes me feel like I'm 11 years old because it's so friggen noobish (I swear to god we'll never hear the end of this from the shoruyuken guys if it ends up at evo)?
I'm not entirely sure what your complaint is. I'm not sure if you are mad that Melee won't matter any more or if you are mad about Brawl potentially not being that great competitively?
is it really that uncommon? or is it just not as extreme in most cases? Anyways this sort of thing happens a lot in general, not just to vidya gaems. It's like being an apprentice on the pony express about to receive a promotion and then "Telegraph? WTF is a Telegraph?!". It's actually quite funny when you distance yourself from the situation a little; they say life up close is a tragedy but from a distance it's a comedy.I dont know ... sorry but, LOL.. sorry, but that was just a funny story
just a rambling rant about how brawl is ridiculously uncompetitive. It doesn't offer any solutions, just complaints and thinly veiled murderous hostility. I was looking forward to brawl even without the wavedash, and the messed up physics, but this is the straw that breaks the camels back and I just felt the need to lament. I don't post too often but I felt I had to say something, whether it had substance or was just vitriol and b1tching.
I really hope I'm wrong, but yeah, it's not looking good. Still, we never know how things will turn out.
If you were competitive with Melee you'd understand. The thing is, NOBODY likes a downgrade.
Why? Is there a factual reason? There aren't many things about Brawl that sound very skill intensive or competitive. All I see are generalized ways of handling balance issues that also detract from the overall depth. Yes, subtracting from depth to add to balance is Sakurai's way of dealing with it. If all the characters are unable to do anything great then they all will balance out, right XD.
Well the thing is, how much experience do you have with the competitive smash scene? How long have you been a part of the community? Just how well do you know the game at it's more advanced level? The thing is, I don't think you are aware of how much impact the lack of l-canceling would have on smash. If you don't know anything about current competitive smash scene and it's history, why are you arguing about how things like l-canceling aren't a big deal?
That thought occurred to me as well, but the thing is if I was in their situation I would have tried that immediately after Gimpy's method didn't work. It's a pretty obvious thing to do, so it's a rather safe assumption that they probably did try it.
Please re-read that and realize how silly that statement is XD. There will be a handful of good people and mostly random people. People won't feel very slighted cause their chances of playing them are pretty slim. I also really doubt people will be discouraged from getting the game just cause some guy at the convention was really good and beat them in a few matches XD.
It makes sense to buff Ike. It doesn't make sense to arbitrarily remove wavedashing from a demo. Please use logic.
If both are glitches or something that didn't work right when burning a game demo, then it could happen.
Are you ********? They are going to play THEIR FRIENDS. Not random people at a convention.
NO, the fact that we have FIRST PERSON reports about gameplay mechanics means it is out, you ******* ****. We aren't basing this off of the absence of information, we are basing this on the fact that we have been informed that is it through FIRST HANDS EXPERIENCE WITH THE GAME. Please delete the internet from your computer and stick to solitaire.
Yes I am ********. Maybe 1 of their friends is really good. At least now they can beat him. Good enough to buy the game, right?
green kirby...try and figure out why we are discussing next time
I hate you so much. Who would not buy Brawl--one of the BIGGEST GAMES FOR THE WII, NAY, ALL NEXT GEN CONSOLES--because they lost a few matches on a god**** demo station!?
You forgot to mention the part where the removal of these techniques ONLY affect competitive players NEGATIVELY. Casuals don't WD or l-cancel, so why would they remove something implemented by only a minority?See how it feels guys when you dont except ones opinions?Its like a closed door tell you"We say NO!"I remember getting flamed for no apparent reason for having a different say about tiers in general,and how I felt Mario should be played. While I do have a mad respect for the competive scene,the main reason why those things are being left out in this game is because the scene even tho is much better than most fighting games out there it is still minority compared to the casual scene,which is larger.Just like I for example got flammed by 10 + for thinking Mario can beat anyone.I was in a minority group,therefore,my theory was overruled by mass amount of people.
Nintendo is treating this game in the same manner they made the Wii in.They got crap loads of Wii's sold thanks to the ease of games appealing to those that dont play game often as well as hardcore.But honestly,we shouldnt be crying about L-canceling.Was it important? For missed/block aerials that opened a more pitbulling type game,hell yea it was.But still,theres one thing you guys are forgeting,and thats adapt.When theres changes,theres always room for those "special"changes as well.I hope to see you all on the week of 3/9,if not..
I believe you answered you own question but anyhow,its because of the marjority of casual players that DONT use them,therefore the reason Nintendo doesnt see the need to put them in.You guys are in a minority remember,just as the casual players are when they want items and such at tournments.
So we should bend to your will and your thoughts because you are the majority?
You don't really understand how important L-canceling was, so you don't even know what you are talking about when you tell us not to think badly of Brawl for it's removal. It's basically the most important thing to Smash when it comes to competitive play. Before that, the game was silly and not very skill intensive. L-canceling was the key that unlocked the came competitively and made the game look impressive and really intense.
That's the thing, if they included them it wouldn't affect the majority. It only affects us. There is no reason to take them out if it only affects competitive play, BECAUSE we are the minority.You guys are in a minority remember,just as the casual players are when they want items and such at tournments.
But thats my point. Why TAKE OUT these things? They don't affect the majority AT ALL, and benefit a small amount of people IMMENSELY.I believe you answered you own question but anyhow,its because of the marjority of casual players that DONT use them,therefore the reason Nintendo doesnt see the need to put them in.You guys are in a minority remember,just as the casual players are when they want items and such at tournment.
Nobody said fast falling was out, merely that the l-canceling from fast falling is out.