Kowns Thread.

[Saki-]

If pit could have better kill moves, he'd be a great character. And maybe a better mid range game. It's either close or far.

 

[Elyssa Xey Hexen]

If pit could have better kill moves, he'd be a great character. And maybe a better mid range game. It's either close or far.

There are tons of characters that have problems killing through percents but still manage to do well. Falco and Diddy are so good in other aspects it makes up for the trouble killing.

 

[Saki-]

Falco's dacus could be one of his best killing moves. His downsmash has the potential to kill rather early too. His bair game off stage could lead to off stage KO's much easier than Pit, and you can't DI out of his Dsmash. Diddy's gimmicks help lead to his kills. Unless you're implying that arrows are the best ways to lead to our very poor smashes then your argument is invalid. ;D

I really keep wanting to pick up Pit, but my constant nagging about how terrible his ko game is keeps me from playing him for long. :/

 

[Gadiel_VaStar]

Falco's dacus could be one of his best killing moves. His downsmash has the potential to kill rather early too. His bair game off stage could lead to off stage KO's much easier than Pit, and you can't DI out of his Dsmash. Diddy's gimmicks help lead to his kills. Unless you're implying that arrows are the best ways to lead to our very poor smashes then your argument is invalid. ;D

I really keep wanting to pick up Pit, but my constant nagging about how terrible his ko game is keeps me from playing him for long. :/

Pit is about patience my brah His KO power is not even that horrendous. Depending on where you are on the stage, his KO power can range from 100-140, which is not that bad. It's mostly the heavy-weights that are troubling, but since they are such a huge target, our moveset can make up for that(nair, arrows, side-b).

Pick him up again...I dare you

Who is going to the Seige tournament in Atlanta?

 

[Gadiel_VaStar]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IKIPu30SWBs&feature=related

LOL, rofl, "Pit's a fairy" haha

 

[Elyssa Xey Hexen]

Falco's dacus could be one of his best killing moves. His downsmash has the potential to kill rather early too. His bair game off stage could lead to off stage KO's much easier than Pit, and you can't DI out of his Dsmash. Diddy's gimmicks help lead to his kills. Unless you're implying that arrows are the best ways to lead to our very poor smashes then your argument is invalid. ;D

Pit is about patience my brah His KO power is not even that horrendous. Depending on where you are on the stage, his KO power can range from 100-140, which is not that bad. It's mostly the heavy-weights that are troubling, but since they are such a huge target, our moveset can make up for that(nair, arrows, side-b).

Usmash is still risky. If it ever fails to hit, there is obvious punishment for usmash. Dsmash is merely a gimmick move. If dsmash ever kills with falco, it's rare. Bair is Falco's best kill move in my opinion. Falco can juggle opponents a lot with his throws and other attacks. Trying to hit someone with Bair is safer and more likely to happen than landig a smash with Falco. However, Bair is such a good edgeguard move and other uses it is almost always staled. Plus, it suffers from sex kick syndrome.

His KO power is still low. Unless you hit someone with a fresh fsmash at like 140%, they are not dying. A fresh Dsmash requires like 170%+ to kill people with good DI. All his other moves are bad as well for killing unless you catch someone with some Bad DI like a sudden Ftilt, or a Fair that is not staled.

Isn't pit's fsmash really safe on block due to low ending lag?

 

[Katana_koden]

Pits fsmash is like equal to snakes ftilt combo but without the range.
If you can react fast, it can easily be punished from shield.

Since it doesn't have much range, its punished more often. So I mainly use my fsmash when I want to edge guard, break shield, or end of combo.

 

[Meru.]

*Late reply I know*

Remember that MM that I won?

Lol Nick. You always take everything so personal.

You can list every win you have got, list every good placing you have got, actually, go and can win every tourney in the world and list that for me too...

... it still wont change the fact that Pit's Fsmash is very unsafe on shield and does not have "barely any lag". But whatever. Go ahead and believe whatever you want to. /care.

And no, I dont remember that MM? When was it again? Half a year ago?

 

[Ayoub]

*Late reply I know*



Lol Nick. You always take everything so personal.

You can list every win you have got, list every good placing you have got, actually, go and can win every tourney in the world and list that for me too...

... it still wont change the fact that Pit's Fsmash is very unsafe on shield and does not have "barely any lag". But whatever. Go ahead and believe whatever you want to. /care.

And no, I dont remember that MM? When was it again? Half a year ago?

I support this, but get lost with your Pogayman.

 

[Tetsion]

Does Pit even have any safe moves out of shield? LoL for some char's like snake it's pretty hard for me react when i keep getting F tilted.

 

[dskank]

Does Pit even have any safe moves out of shield? LoL for some char's like snake it's pretty hard for me react when i keep getting F tilted.

you can sheild grab after the first hit of snakes ftilt i do it all the time

 

[Katana_koden]

Snakes f tilt depends on how close he is. Feel free to get by the 2nd if he is out of pits grab range.

My safest guess usually in my experience is nair spaced.

 

[Vex Kasrani]

you can sheild grab after the first hit of snakes ftilt i do it all the time

Not against Snake's that space the Ftilt correctly.

 

[Ayoub]

Does jab come out fast enough to punish ftilt²?

 

[Kuro~]

Does jab come out fast enough to punish ftilt²?

yes but i would suggest only doing it when hes at higher percents...i get to fight alot of good snakes so jab does work if they wait to do the second hit...if not then i dont believe it can be used against ftilt it's just be safer to grab

 

[Kuro~]

I recently fought M2K in the pit vs metaknight matchup...even tho i got two stocks off of him(yes he was semi-sandbagging and i got a mirror gimp on him) he has officially convinced me pit vs mk is more of a ***** than i use to think

by semi i mean no dashdancing and no spam...his mk is sooo dam fast never fought any mk like that such a beast...and he really does look like a zombie when he plays :O

 

[Bartolon]

Ness da bess.

 

[Saki-]

Pit is about patience my brah His KO power is not even that horrendous. Depending on where you are on the stage, his KO power can range from 100-140, which is not that bad. It's mostly the heavy-weights that are troubling, but since they are such a huge target, our moveset can make up for that(nair, arrows, side-b).

Pick him up again...I dare you

Who is going to the Seige tournament in Atlanta?

Many people in my state only use heavy characters. I mean man, in the past two tournaments that I've gotten knocked out of brackets with have been by Snakes and a DK. Which is why even my Marth is having a hard time getting anywhere. I play more Snakes in bracket and with such a dumb matchup picking up the character again probably wouldn't help my chances at all.

yes but i would suggest only doing it when hes at higher percents...i get to fight alot of good snakes so jab does work if they wait to do the second hit...if not then i dont believe it can be used against ftilt it's just be safer to grab

If you're saying the grab is safer than using a move with less frames then something seems off. Really the best thing we could do is just powershield against a move with such massive hitboxes.

 

[Meru.]

I support this, but get lost with your Pogayman.

Your sig sucks. Meowth/Persia > Your sig > You.

 

[Ayoub]

Your sig sucks. Meowth/Persia > Your sig > You.

Jealous much.

 

[@TKbreezy]

KOLA shield grabbing is faster than Pit dropping shield and then jabbing...his jab is 6 frames I think and Shield dropping is a couple of frames also

also lol Yaay

 

[Kuro~]

Kola: If you're saying the grab is safer than using a move with less frames then something seems off. Really the best thing we could do is just powershield against a move with such massive hitboxes.

first off its shield grab which has a boosted range so against even the likes of ftilt it will reach secondly yes jab has less frames but it still would not be the best option at low % cuz ftilt can be used far away enough that u cant jab but if they space improperly then u could jab out of shield or jab cancel but in most cases best thing to do is Sgrab cuz of the increase range or just run da fk away that works 2

 

[Suyon]

I have met with a terrible fate.

 

[Ayoub]

I have met with a terrible fate.

Uh, what? xD

 

[#HBC | ZoZo]

BEN drowned.

 

[lordhelmet]

http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=280030&page=31

Falcon boards discussing you. I believe Admiral has a large write-up about this so that would be helpful.

 

[Katana_koden]

OMG AWA is like so fun. I wish more can come.

Reflex and Kismet, skatt, billie, etc

Everyone says my pit is different, and my arrow control is great...
I dunno. Maybe I'm not confident haha
Says "best pit in state, possibly in region".

 

[Gadiel_VaStar]

OMG AWA is like so fun. I wish more can come.

Reflex and Kismet, skatt, billie, etc

Everyone says my pit is different, and my arrow control is great...
I dunno. Maybe I'm not confident haha
Says "best pit in state, possibly in region".

Oh snap, not till I walk through that door!!! Your not the best...yet. Not till I play them, haha.

Tbh, your probably better than me, but we'll see if I can come tomorrow.

 

[Saki-]

;P The two of you should come to Siegecon and convince me that Pit is somewhat usable.

 

[Gadiel_VaStar]

;P The two of you should come to Siegecon and convince me that Pit is somewhat usable.

I'm trying my hardest to get there. It's hard w/ strict parents, but I should be able to. Pit is very viable, and I'll try my best to help you out if I go.

 

[Katana_koden]

Fighting r.e.f.l.e.x is on a whole NOTHER level!!

To think, I learned something about our pits. We don't know our frame traps. WE discuss strategy and not what pit really can do. I won't even say arrow loops are bad, Its just you have to find the time and place.

Congrats me for dive bombing on my first tourney, was too nervous. Playing r.e.f.l.e.x was much easier.

skrew name searches >=D

And Gadiel, you did great. We have to play some.

 

[pitskeyblade]

Hey guys, just bought my pass for MLG DC. FYRE confirmed.

 

[KiraFlax]

Same here hope to meet ya there

 

[LoliLovesRain]

Hey guys, just bought my pass for MLG DC. FYRE confirmed.

i bought my pass when it opened xD and my airplane tickets have been purchased as well as the hotel :3 soooo excited xD I'm like ready set go oh wait i can't cuz it isnt October yet >_>

 

[Gadiel_VaStar]

Fighting r.e.f.l.e.x is on a whole NOTHER level!!

To think, I learned something about our pits. We don't know our frame traps. WE discuss strategy and not what pit really can do. I won't even say arrow loops are bad, Its just you have to find the time and place.

Congrats me for dive bombing on my first tourney, was too nervous. Playing r.e.f.l.e.x was much easier.

skrew name searches >=D

And Gadiel, you did great. We have to play some.

Yeah I'm ignorant w/ some smash terms. What is a frame trap?

You did good to, but I think you let the dude get in your head too much. After about mid-2nd stock, the G&W basically hit you w/ everything »_« I feel stupid on my part bcuz I got too cocky, and that's something I have to improve upon.

 

[Katana_koden]

Seige is right before my birth day. I plan to go.

 

[@TKbreezy]

So Like I actually Bought a Free hugs shirt...def wearing that to MLG

 

[KillerJawz]

^Is that the black Shoryu from Neopets?

 

[@TKbreezy]

yes..yes it is...although im not sure if its an actual color you can get...i havent played neopets in like 8 years but i do remember this being my favorite one

 

[Kuro~]

is anyone able to record matches =/? i have some id like to put on my youtube channel but i have no way of recording

oh ayoub when u gonna get some new matches up that falco one seems to old...id like to see why so many ppl think ur beast (not trolling just curious ^^)