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KOS-MOS Returning to Battle: DLC Season 2.

MattX20

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To be fair, Heihachi is from Tekken, a fighting game (like ARMS) and Gil’s game involves spelunking for treasure (like Minecraft). Tales of Symphonia is a JRPG like Final Fantasy VII is but his costume wasn’t in the previous wave. What if...
That and Tales is a big enough IP from Bandai Namco that could get a rep and Lloyd is a frontrunner for it, though he does have competition with KOS-MOS and Nightmare for a potential Bandai Namco rep
 

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Correct me if I'm wrong, but I was told by KarneraMythos KarneraMythos that the KOS-MOS mod takedown was perpetuated by trolls in order to get our hopes up… I don't know, nowadays I think KOS-MOD does nothing for her chances and the fact that there exist mod showcase videos for KOS-MOS RE outside Demonslayers original video further solidifies my doubt unfortunately.
Exactly this. I posted a warning in the speculation thread last-last TGA for hype control. All of my points were to tackle down the dubiousness of it all. If KOS-MOS ends up happening anyway, it has nothing to do with the mod takedown. It's sort of why I keep pestering Demonslayer to reupload it, or at least create an updated video. We kinda have the trolls cornered in that regard anyway. If they take down the new upload, they just prove our point. If they take this as a dare to report other modding videos, it does nothing to prove the legitimacy of any leak, meaning nobody wins, and all they do is just inconvenience content creation for the sake of a pointless stupid prank.

You'd think a Namco rep would come with all other Namco mii's but that hasn't been the case so far. IDK the fact that Namco mii's are being split for other challenger packs makes me doubt one is coming at all which really sucks.
It's like I've said before: The fact that Sakurai joked about Namco forgetting Pac-Man was in Smash and their character comes off as unintentionally mean-spirited, like "Oh, right... The only fighter from our company that we're allowed to have." Unless we get another playable Namco rep before the DLC cycle ends, this quote is gonna end up being Harsher in Hindsight. We can only hope Sakurai and Nintendo throw Namco a bone, and not live under the excuse that "they're making the game, so they don't need another rep", which some fans love translating it as "they're making the game, so they SHOULDN'T and WON'T get a rep".
 
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Still, a Bandai Namco rep or Ryu Hayabusa is whom I'm expecting to see as the next reveal since it's going to be a pre-E3/summer reveal which typically are the biggest ones saved and Crash has been heavily speculated to be the summer reveal.
 

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By far Lloyd is the one Bamco character in competition with her, tho I wouldn't be opposed to him getting in if Kosmos doesnt
I would also say Nightmare from Soul Calibur is competition to KOS-MOS as well. Shouldn't count out Soul Calibur since it is Namco's biggest crossover gaming franchise. Link was in Soul Calibur 2, so who knows if Sakurai doesn't want old Link and Nightmare to have a rematch.
 
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In hindsight... would T-elos work as a KOS-MOS alt? Possibly spoilers

KOS-MOS is entirely mechanical. She can turn her arms into cannons or hammers or swords. If I’m not mistaken, T-elos is more of a cyborg-android, having blades in her arms but I’m pretty sure she can’t turn her arm into a cannon or hammer etc like KOS-MOS can. Then again I’ve only seen her in Xenoblade 2 and the OG Project X Zone. She uses a blaster pistol instead. Unless KOS-MOS doesn’t use any attacks that turn her arm into a weapon I guess
 

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In hindsight... would T-elos work as a KOS-MOS alt? Possibly spoilers

KOS-MOS is entirely mechanical. She can turn her arms into cannons or hammers or swords. If I’m not mistaken, T-elos is more of a cyborg-android, having blades in her arms but I’m pretty sure she can’t turn her arm into a cannon or hammer etc like KOS-MOS can. Then again I’ve only seen her in Xenoblade 2 and the OG Project X Zone. She uses a blaster pistol instead. Unless KOS-MOS doesn’t use any attacks that turn her arm into a weapon I guess
T-elos never uses R-Cannon, nor X-Buster in Xenosaga, either. While she can still use the UMN to bring out weapons such as the G-Shot, T-elos is a watered down version of KOS-MOS. To take R-Cannon away from KOS-MOS just so T-elos could remain true to canon(no pun intended, honest), would be weird since KOS-MOS uses it in most games she is in.
 

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T-elos never uses R-Cannon, nor X-Buster in Xenosaga, either. While she can still use the UMN to bring out weapons such as the G-Shot, T-elos is a watered down version of KOS-MOS. To take R-Cannon away from KOS-MOS just so T-elos could remain true to canon(no pun intended, honest), would be weird since KOS-MOS uses it in most games she is in.
If KOS-MOS’s final smash is X-Buster, they could pull an AC Cloud and make T-elos’s FS U-TENERITAS. but yeah the cannon thing... concerns me
 

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Correct me if I'm wrong, but I was told by KarneraMythos KarneraMythos that the KOS-MOS mod takedown was perpetuated by trolls in order to get our hopes up. The fact that it happened during TGA's 2019 somewhat proves this since that was the time Literally everyone thought KOS-MOS was confirmed for FP5. If true, that is extremely slimy and only proves that people in speculation REALLY don't want/like her. I don't know, nowadays I think KOS-MOD does nothing for her chances and the fact that there exist mod showcase videos for KOS-MOS RE outside Demonslayers original video further solidifies my doubt unfortunately.
Sort of yes but also no as we will never know what truly happened. You can't tell me that it having Nintendo's copyright still isn't suspicious and that was also by the time fighter pass 2 was being announced. I used those Geno songs as a example to prove that Nintendo still keeps stuff down despite not being used so that could certainly be a hit against that mod. Regardless, unless the remade mod by Karnera's friend gets taken down then we should not worry about it. And as for your other comment on how other videos of the mod are still up.... is exactly why I used the Geno song example. Nintendo only takes down one video or two and not all things related to a mod they strike. It's certainly odd but they have done this for various ost on channels but not the same ost on other channels.

As for T-ELOS being a alt? Still very possible but they do not fight the same way other than some variations in attacks. If anything what they could do is make them fight the same way just for smash but instead of KOS-MOS using her F scythe, T-ELOS could use her anima axe.

or a silly suggestion is go back to the concept art T-ELOS where she was just an exact clone of KOS-MOS kinda.



lol either way i'm sure she could even just be referenced as a colour.
 
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Well, we potentially have til March at least to potentially see a Bandai Namco rep or potentially before the end of the month if that recent 7-11 ad is anything to go by.
I will say the fact Sephiroth is absent on said ad is a tad sus

though it could mean like, idk, reveal at the end of the month, release in March?
 

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I will say the fact Sephiroth is absent on said ad is a tad sus

though it could mean like, idk, reveal at the end of the month, release in March?
I am not sure how the 7/11 ad means anything, especially since Sephy is not on it. Been looking up stuff on the internet, but nothing is really telling me how it is related to a Smash reveal in Jan or Feb. >.<
 

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I always thought that chun li, Lloyd, and Yuri fake was too good to be true myself given that it was claimed too early in development and having a insider comment on it is nice. Well, i'm going to lean fake on that one with Imran.
 

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I am not sure how the 7/11 ad means anything, especially since Sephy is not on it. Been looking up stuff on the internet, but nothing is really telling me how it is related to a Smash reveal in Jan or Feb. >.<
Almost every time a Japanese 7/11 advertising Smash has shown up, a character reveal often wasn't far behind the day the ad is taken down. You can look in threads like the closed Geno thread, as this pattern continued to prove itself as recently as Steve's reveal a few days before it was taken down. It and the Smash amiibo wave releases have been the most consistently proven methods to determine when a new Smash DLC fighter comes out
 

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I know amiibo theory and the 7-11 ads are very good indicators for imminent fighter reveals but I highly doubt we're getting one this soon considering Sephiroth only dropped a little less than a month from today if you count unlocking him early from his challenge. This is still very suspicious though I will say.

Also, Have you guys heard about the rumor that Sephiroth was originally planned as the 1st fighter from the Fighter's Pass 2? I think Nintendo uploaded an image on their Instagram promoting his challenger pack. The thing is, Some people noticed that instead of saying "challenger pack #8" it said "challenger pack #6". after Nintendo realized, they deleted the image and 15 minutes later they put up a "fixed" version that says "challenger pack #8"

That could be solid evidence for "swap theory" like ES. Dinah ES. Dinah suggested. I'd understand if this was a typo, but if it wasn't...that's very interesting...
 
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I always thought that chun li, Lloyd, and Yuri fake was too good to be true myself given that it was claimed too early in development and having a insider comment on it is nice. Well, i'm going to lean fake on that one with Imran.
Even if Imran knows and Lloyd and Yuri are out, that doesn't mean Chun-Li is. I don't think no one asked the dude yet what he thinks about the Chun-Li claims or about what he thinks about that 5chan leak in general. But I wouldn't put complete stock in him as he doesn't know everything.
 

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Even if Imran knows and Lloyd and Yuri are out, that doesn't mean Chun-Li is. I don't think no one asked the dude yet what he thinks about the Chun-Li claims or about what he thinks about that 5chan leak in general. But I wouldn't put complete stock in him as he doesn't know everything.
I agree. I'm pretty damn sure Imran knows that he's treated as a reliable insider among smash speculation. For all we know, He either...

A.) Legitimately doubts or doesn't know if Lloyd and Yuri will come, or...

B.) He's just f*cking with us.

Not gonna lie, all this Chun li talk has me getting excited for her potential inclusion. She would definitely feel like Sephiroth all over again because they are iconic characters, yet hardly anyone took them seriously as DLC candidates because Street Fighter and Final Fantasy already had pre-existing content in the base game. Although one could make the argument that FF content prior to Sephiroth was extremely shallow, so it only made sense for them to save all the other content for Seph's inclusion since they knew he was coming this whole time.

As for Street Fighter getting more content, I think it'd be neat if Chun's stage, music, and spirits consisted of 3rd strike/Street Fighter Alpha content since the base game has plenty of SF2 content already present. And since she's a Capcom rep, it's entirely possible she will finally be the DLC fighter who comes with the Monster Hunter mii costumes.
 
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Even if Imran knows and Lloyd and Yuri are out, that doesn't mean Chun-Li is. I don't think no one asked the dude yet what he thinks about the Chun-Li claims or about what he thinks about that 5chan leak in general. But I wouldn't put complete stock in him as he doesn't know everything.
Importantly this is the same guy that said Monster Hunter was used for Byleth's moveset and that he doesn't think we are getting a Capcom rep. Although it could be said that was speculation. But if true then i'm sure we aren't getting a Capcom rep.
 

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Importantly this is the same guy that said Monster Hunter was used for Byleth's moveset and that he doesn't think we are getting a Capcom rep. Although it could be said that was speculation. But if true then i'm sure we aren't getting a Capcom rep.
I'm in the believe that if Namco is out for this Pass than so is Capcom. If Namco is in, than so is Capcom. I think if any of those remaining Smash 4 Mii costumes return without a Namco or Capcom rep than both companies are out for Fighter's Pass 2.
 

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I'm in the believe that if Namco is out for this Pass than so is Capcom. If Namco is in, than so is Capcom. I think if any of those remaining Smash 4 Mii costumes return without a Namco or Capcom rep than both companies are out for Fighter's Pass 2.
well I can tell you that Imran does post over at resetera and he commented on two fake leaks already. The first was a tails leak and he only commented on it because he heard Sephiroth was cheaper for SE to use which that fake said and that's where the whole Byleth was planned for base game talk came from. Later on he commented on a clearly fake leak with chun li, Shadow, and Lloyd just saying nope. I'm not saying Capcom is out but I think it's not looking likely for them to appear and not just because of Imran but Capcom got massively hacked lately and no smash rep plans were revealed. Unless Capcom is keeping that under wraps like crazy then I wont get hopes up for any Capcom rep. I can say the same for Street Fighter V though as its last dlc character hasn't been leaked either. It's certainly possible Capcom has crazy security for those but I dont feel like i'm going to be expecting Capcom in the pass. My thinking right now is that Lloyd is going to come back as a mii with a new bamco rep (KOS-MOS maybe, Dark souls maybe, maybe even another tales character or Nightmare) and Monster hunter is just going to be in a random wave. Plus, I feel it is worth noting that no third party rep has passed 3 reps so Capcom probably wont be in for that reason alone. But maybe that's just a stupid fanrule... who knows. Point is I dont think no Capcom character means no Namco character.
 

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well I can tell you that Imran does post over at resetera and he commented on two fake leaks already. The first was a tails leak and he only commented on it because he heard Sephiroth was cheaper for SE to use which that fake said and that's where the whole Byleth was planned for base game talk came from. Later on he commented on a clearly fake leak with chun li, Shadow, and Lloyd just saying nope. I'm not saying Capcom is out but I think it's not looking likely for them to appear and not just because of Imran but Capcom got massively hacked lately and no smash rep plans were revealed. Unless Capcom is keeping that under wraps like crazy then I wont get hopes up for any Capcom rep. I can say the same for Street Fighter V though as its last dlc character hasn't been leaked either. It's certainly possible Capcom has crazy security for those but I dont feel like i'm going to be expecting Capcom in the pass. My thinking right now is that Lloyd is going to come back as a mii with a new bamco rep (KOS-MOS maybe, Dark souls maybe, maybe even another tales character or Nightmare) and Monster hunter is just going to be in a random wave. Plus, I feel it is worth noting that no third party rep has passed 3 reps so Capcom probably wont be in for that reason alone. But maybe that's just a stupid fanrule... who knows. Point is I dont think no Capcom character means no Namco character.
The ShadowChun leak wasn't the one I was talking about. I was talking about this 5chan leak from 2018:

 

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If Lloyd for whatever reason doesn't make the cut, it's not like Bandai Namco doesn't have potential backup options to pick from and KOS-MOS and Nightmare are by far the biggest candidates for potential consideration.
 
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The ShadowChun leak wasn't the one I was talking about. I was talking about this 5chan leak from 2018:

Isn't this the one he was asked about in the tweet? It's the only one that claims Lloyd and alludes to Yuri and has Chun Li.
 

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Isn't this the one he was asked about in the tweet? It's the only one that claims Lloyd and alludes to Yuri and has Chun Li.
I'm not sure. Someone asked him what he thought about the Lloyd/Yuri claims and Imran responded with something like he didn't believe them. Whether that was the 5chan leak or all leaks talking about Lloyd or Yuri is debatable.
 
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