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358/2 looks like it will impress. I just hope they don't port it like they did COM.
I doubt that they'd ever port it, to a console that is.
I'm still working on that playthrough.
For that fight, blizzard is a god send. Just freeze him and then slash him.
What's your point? It's a Kingdom Hearts thread. But fine by me. lol. If there are current discussions, editing the first post would work nicely.
You're eager to move on past an element of Kingdom Hearts that has yet to be adequetly explained?
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I got it and I like it. Nothing dramatic changed except for Riku's duel thing. Gets hard to get used to.
The Organization has been pretty adequately explained (or at least it had been until Nomura decided to introduce Xion in Days just to **** with us). I don't care about them. I'm much more curious to know about the origins of the keyblade, what Riku did while Sora was asleep (admittedly, this should be covered in Days) and what Mickey was doing during the events of the first game, in addition to tons of smaller things that will probably never be answered.
Yes, I believe you have that right.
No, it's not true.
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Haha, yeah, I think you've still got it all in order.
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What does having a big heart have to do with owning a keyblade
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Could you please explain how key blades work?
So keyblades are given out by heart strength...
:flame:So keyblades are given out by heart strength...
And why does Sora have a keyblade again?
What's really weird about that explanation though is that every member of Organization XIII should be able to weild a keyblade. Every member has a strong heart, which is why they were able to maintain their form as Nobodies. Even if that can't weild keyblades anymore, they should have all been keyblade weilders before becoming heartless and nobodies. I find it odd that that wouldn't come up in conversation, at all, at any point in the game though.
I actually find it odd that the plot as a whole doesn't ever just come up in conversation. Is Sora really content with believing that the Organization's only unique traits is their strong hearts?
Well, Sora is a dimwit. He actually believes that you can remove all darkness from everyone's hearts eventually and thus end the heartless swarms. At least with Roxas, you got the impression he had a firm grasp on reality - he knew that he would eventually disappear unless he found a heart (until he lost his memory).
The org hasn't been fully explained. We don't know why roxas left. We don't know how saix got his scar. We don't know how xigbar knows about terra aqua and ven. We don't know ANYTHING about xion. The only aspect about the org that has been fully explain was axel's and roxas relationship(which we now know xion was a huge part in) and xemnas plans. Also how did sora kairi and riku get loss? Riku's story has evolved more in CoM and KH2 then any member of the org in both games. You played with sora throughout the whole game and kairi will always play the girl that needs saving card.
I think the fact that sora and ven is connected is pretty remarkable. Also there weren't "thousands of weilders" rather then thousands of fake keyblades.
So keyblades are given out by heart strength...
And why does Sora have a keyblade again?
What's really weird about that explanation though is that every member of Organization XIII should be able to weild a keyblade. Every member has a strong heart, which is why they were able to maintain their form as Nobodies. Even if that can't weild keyblades anymore, they should have all been keyblade weilders before becoming heartless and nobodies. I find it odd that that wouldn't come up in conversation, at all, at any point in the game though.
I actually find it odd that the plot as a whole doesn't ever just come up in conversation. Is Sora really content with believing that the Organization's only unique traits is their strong hearts?
Well, Sora is a dimwit. He actually believes that you can remove all darkness from everyone's hearts eventually and thus end the heartless swarms. At least with Roxas, you got the impression he had a firm grasp on reality - he knew that he would eventually disappear unless he found a heart (until he lost his memory).
Who is Ven, and how do you know whether or not those thousands of keyblades are real?
Ven is the roxas look alike in birth by sleep and the keyblade are fake as they don't have keychains.
Yea he thought that at the beginning of the game but at the end of the game he evolved and now knows darkness is needed just as much as light is and he and riku accepted the darkness within their own hearts in order to protect the ones they care about.
I'm really starting to hate the plot of Kingdom hearts.
Except the fact that nomura has already stated he knows exactly how the series will end and that it won't be a ongoing series like final fantasy is. And every major plot line that wasn't explained at the beginning of kh2 was explained by the end. The only major plot lines left to be explained takes place in a brand new game. And isn't this the whole reason why sequels and prequels are made in the 1st place?
I never said they were fully explained. I said they were adequately explained. I already know pretty much all I care to know about them. 358/2 Days will probably answer some of the things you mentioned, but I think a lot of it is either obvious or pointless. Why did Roxas leave the Org? To return to Sora. He feels emotions, starts to remember what it's like to be whole and is ultimately drawn to Sora (before being brought in by Riku). It is, after all, a nobody's greatest desire to become whole again. That's their entire mission. Roxas is just capable of accomplishing that in a different way from the others.
Yes, and that's exactly my point. I don't care about the Organization, therefor I don't care about the spin-off game that is 358/2 Days. It will reveal a few interesting things, I'm sure, but it doesn't excite me because it's centered around characters that I don't care about. Xion will surely have disappeared by the end of 358/2 Days, and I won't care.
Roxas returning to Sora is the end result. We still don't know why he left in the 1st place. Roxas left way before his last seven days that were in kh2 and probably well before he started having his thoughts about sora. The reason why he started having them in his last seven days was because sora was close to waking up.
That's not what I'm referring to at all. When I say he starts to feel and is drawn back to Sora, I'm talking about while he's still in The Organization. He talks to Axel about feeling like he has a heart and how he's leaving to go be complete. That happens before he's captured by Riku.
I really don't see why. Why can't that just by a phsical characteristic? Again, if people care about Saix's scar, do they care about Xigbar's eye patch? Do they care about Axel's facial tattoos? They don't matter. There's no reason we would need to know where Saix's scar came from. It might as well be an incredibly coincidental birth mark.
There are other things that hint at the Terra = Xehanort thing just as much if not more (the similar hair, the glowing yellow eyes, the reference to Aqua's armor, the fact that Nomura stated that BBS is specifically meant to tell Xehanort's story, etc). The fact that Xigbar knew Terra (or, more generally, just knew past keyblade masters), is practically moot with all things considered. I'd like to find out more about Terra regardless of whether or not he's Xehanort, so his relationship to Xigbar isn't very compelling to me.
Yes, I know she's important now. When Nomura dangled her in front of me, a thousand questions popped up, and I would like them all answered. But my point is, that's all 358/2 Days is about to me. Getting answers. I want to know what happens to Xion for the sake of comprehension, but I don't actually care what happens to her. That's the problem. I'm so tired of the Org. nonsense that I've become completely apathetic toward them. I cared about Sora risking his life for his friends. I cared about Riku succumbing to the darkness. I cared about Kairi being captured and put in danger (to an extent). I do not care about Xion. She will surely be dead by the end of 358/2 and I won't miss her at all. And because of that, I wish Nomura wouldn't waste our time by throwing her into the story in the first place. I wish he would have just let the Organization be what it was and given us KH3 already. If I may make a terrible pun, I would like a game with some heart again, not just a game with lots of characters and plot twists for the sake of mystery.
