Trillion
Smash Ace
That's awesome ShadowLink. That would be incredibly helpful for soo many things.
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KIDs ATs (only high level Sonics need enter here) NOW WITH CHAR. SPECIFIC ATS!!!
- Thread starter da K.I.D.
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ShadowLink84
Smash Hero
It'll work something like this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DTTC4eRU32E
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0znojKQVdP8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DTTC4eRU32E
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0znojKQVdP8
Trillion
Smash Ace
If it works anything like either of those, then we are sure to begin making great strides towards bringing Sonic to the top tier.
da K.I.D.
Smash Hero
stay on topic please...
for anyone that wants to help me, i would appreciate a list of how many times downtilt will combo on each character before they can get out from 0, 7, 10 and 5 damage.
p.s. memphischains can suck a ****, and hhkj' himself
for anyone that wants to help me, i would appreciate a list of how many times downtilt will combo on each character before they can get out from 0, 7, 10 and 5 damage.
p.s. memphischains can suck a ****, and hhkj' himself
Jim Morrison
Smash Authority
What is HHKJ?
da K.I.D.
Smash Hero
doesnt matter, he can do it to himself.
~TBS~
Smash Champion
hhkj=hijink(i dont know how to spell it)
KID, i think everyone knows this, but the space animals will stay in dtilt for a while.
KID, i think everyone knows this, but the space animals will stay in dtilt for a while.
da K.I.D.
Smash Hero
yah, up to like 50 if you can perfect the reverse down tilt. some thing like that. but i would like hard numbers and percentages. if you dont mind
ShadowLink84
Smash Hero
Not sure I've managed to Dtilt Fox 10 times without him escaping while the other get out after 6.
Mind you its not consecutive since Sonic moves forward.
Mind you its not consecutive since Sonic moves forward.
TwinkleToes
Smash Lord
I'll get on that sometime this evening I think.
da K.I.D.
Smash Hero
thank you and your sig is awesome.
Trillion
Smash Ace
Bowser
At 0% he gets hit once and then can fall and shield or grab. He only takes 6%
My Best: 13 hits from 6% – 51%, involves a lot of reversals
He can easily footstool out by 24% at latest
And he can usually shield after about 3 hits
This was done to a Bowser at lvl 9 in brawl mode (not training, so diminishing returns is calculated in) on final destination. It may be important to note that if we were on a stage with a slant, that you could theoretically get more.
Is this the kind of thing you are looking for?
At 0% he gets hit once and then can fall and shield or grab. He only takes 6%
My Best: 13 hits from 6% – 51%, involves a lot of reversals
He can easily footstool out by 24% at latest
And he can usually shield after about 3 hits
This was done to a Bowser at lvl 9 in brawl mode (not training, so diminishing returns is calculated in) on final destination. It may be important to note that if we were on a stage with a slant, that you could theoretically get more.
Is this the kind of thing you are looking for?
da K.I.D.
Smash Hero
yes, and its much more detailed than i expected, thankyou very much, i can see that this would take a little bit of time, so i appreciate you doing this for me.
one more thing that i need.
check to see whether the characters escape options make it better to grab before the last down tilt or after.
one more thing that i need.
check to see whether the characters escape options make it better to grab before the last down tilt or after.
Trillion
Smash Ace
Ganondorf
0% - 37% has been my best which is 9 hits.
Typically he shields after 3 which is 0% - 16%
He can also shield after 1 hit which is only 6%.
Same controlled variables as the bowser situation.
I would say that you should typically try for a grab after the very first one. Unless you manage to hit him from very close to Sonic's body rather than with the tip of the shoe. If you manage to get in close enough to him to do hit with his leg rather than his shoe, than you could probably get about 3 hits and then have to grab. I was never able to get more than 4 hits except on the one time that I reached 9. The 9 may have been influenced by the fact that I was getting a little closer to the edge.
0% - 37% has been my best which is 9 hits.
Typically he shields after 3 which is 0% - 16%
He can also shield after 1 hit which is only 6%.
Same controlled variables as the bowser situation.
I would say that you should typically try for a grab after the very first one. Unless you manage to hit him from very close to Sonic's body rather than with the tip of the shoe. If you manage to get in close enough to him to do hit with his leg rather than his shoe, than you could probably get about 3 hits and then have to grab. I was never able to get more than 4 hits except on the one time that I reached 9. The 9 may have been influenced by the fact that I was getting a little closer to the edge.
Trillion
Smash Ace
For Bowser, I would say it is better to tilt AFTER the last one if you aren't expecting to get more than 3 or so. If you somehow manage to keep him in the chain until that 13th hit than I would say it is probably better to grab him after the 12th.
da K.I.D.
Smash Hero
muchas gracias senor excellente
Trillion
Smash Ace
DK
8 hits for 0% -31%
Typically he jumps out after 16 – 20 %, 3 or 4 hits.
He has actually been able to get out after the very first hit, especially if he hits forward B.
My guess is that its best to grab after 2nd or 3rd hit or even 1st hit.
I've only gotten him to 8 hits a few times.
Also, if they trip, then you can sometimes get a lot more hits. Like I think I got 12 hits after DK tripped on one.
8 hits for 0% -31%
Typically he jumps out after 16 – 20 %, 3 or 4 hits.
He has actually been able to get out after the very first hit, especially if he hits forward B.
My guess is that its best to grab after 2nd or 3rd hit or even 1st hit.
I've only gotten him to 8 hits a few times.
Also, if they trip, then you can sometimes get a lot more hits. Like I think I got 12 hits after DK tripped on one.
da K.I.D.
Smash Hero
make sure you do it like bowser and let us know if there are any %s between 0 and 10 that would make it better to start this.
Trillion
Smash Ace
ROB
It may just be that I am having a hard time with him, but the very most that I got was 3 hits for like 15% or something. That involved me hitting with the very tip of my shoe.
Usually, I can only get one. and he is already so far above my head that he can get out a fair and stop me from doing anything else. Probably grab after the very first. But you may just want to try to hit your own fair or shield and then grab or something.
It may just be that I am having a hard time with him, but the very most that I got was 3 hits for like 15% or something. That involved me hitting with the very tip of my shoe.
Usually, I can only get one. and he is already so far above my head that he can get out a fair and stop me from doing anything else. Probably grab after the very first. But you may just want to try to hit your own fair or shield and then grab or something.
da K.I.D.
Smash Hero
thats to be expected, ROB is floaty.
Trillion
Smash Ace
ok, so I'm trying snake and he taunted me and I just learned that you press A to pick up his box and throw it at him automatically. I can't believe I didn't know that until now!!
So,
Snake
my max: 13 hits 0 - 51%
Typically, its easy to get about 6 hits. Just make sure to hit with the leg area above Sonic's sock. (sock?) Then I would grab after that, since he will pull out a grenade and get hit, thus dropping it and causing you to hit that as well and blow up. I'd say 6 is still a little high, but you can at least get 4 or 5 no problem. Even 10 on Snake is a lot easier than 3 on ROB
So,
Snake
my max: 13 hits 0 - 51%
Typically, its easy to get about 6 hits. Just make sure to hit with the leg area above Sonic's sock. (sock?) Then I would grab after that, since he will pull out a grenade and get hit, thus dropping it and causing you to hit that as well and blow up. I'd say 6 is still a little high, but you can at least get 4 or 5 no problem. Even 10 on Snake is a lot easier than 3 on ROB
Trillion
Smash Ace
I'm sick of trying on Falco
So far, my best is 6 hits from 0 - 31%.
He is soo hard to get close enough to to make this work that I highly doubt that it will ever be a good option to try to do to him.
On the plus side. You can get it three times pretty easily on average and this 3 times can be done up until like high 50s% to low 60s%
So far, my best is 6 hits from 0 - 31%.
He is soo hard to get close enough to to make this work that I highly doubt that it will ever be a good option to try to do to him.
On the plus side. You can get it three times pretty easily on average and this 3 times can be done up until like high 50s% to low 60s%
Trillion
Smash Ace
Dedede
I got from 11 - 40 with 6 hits.
I also got 6% - 37% with 8 hits
On average I can't get more than 3 hits. Dedede can easily just press B to do his suck up or w/e attack. It ruins it every time. I'd say grab either before or after the third hit, but make sure to do it fast. The down tilt is stupid on dedede IMO. It hits him really high, but he falls again really fast. It's really misleading because it appears that you should be able to keep it going, but the height he gets allows him to DI, midair dodge, or attack even with the quick fall speed. I may test him more another time.
I got from 11 - 40 with 6 hits.
I also got 6% - 37% with 8 hits
On average I can't get more than 3 hits. Dedede can easily just press B to do his suck up or w/e attack. It ruins it every time. I'd say grab either before or after the third hit, but make sure to do it fast. The down tilt is stupid on dedede IMO. It hits him really high, but he falls again really fast. It's really misleading because it appears that you should be able to keep it going, but the height he gets allows him to DI, midair dodge, or attack even with the quick fall speed. I may test him more another time.
Anthinus
Smash Journeyman
Hello!
Hi guys! Long time no see!
You have improved a lot Da KID, I saw your vids and looks like you've worked very hard. I was surprised to see a combo with my name and I appreciate it a lot!
You'll see new stuff soon... Maybe I could add something here
Hi guys! Long time no see!
You have improved a lot Da KID, I saw your vids and looks like you've worked very hard. I was surprised to see a combo with my name and I appreciate it a lot!
You'll see new stuff soon... Maybe I could add something here
Trillion
Smash Ace
gracias, its kinda frustrating so i went to dinner and now im taking a bit of a break before i do any more.
Browny
Smash Hater
stop triple posting and just edit it all into one big post so we dont have to look over 3-4 pages just to see the numbers...
TwinkleToes
Smash Lord
Lol, so I was testing some stuff out this evening and I realized I can't even spinshot anymore. WTF I helped discover that **** and I can't even do it. I'll be practicing tonight so I won't have any dtilt data for you until tomorrow.
da K.I.D.
Smash Hero
WTF? who the hell are you and why do you know me?Hi guys! Long time no see!
You have improved a lot Da KID, I saw your vids and looks like you've worked very hard. I was surprised to see a combo with my name and I appreciate it a lot!
You'll see new stuff soon... Maybe I could add something here
seriously though, what vids of me have you seen cause the most recent ones i have are like 4 months ago and terrible IMO. not to mention that KIRK KIRK KIRK KIRK KIRK KIRK KIRK (lol namedropping) wont get my effing videos up from last month.
thats fine, youve done more to help me than any body else in like the last 3 months...
dont listen to people like this, hes stupid, and i told you about not listening to stupid people. the way you are doing is perfect. because its one post for one character.
p.s. the falco part was totally amazing and great, the part about not being able to be closee enough is important. but even more impotant was teh part that any point basically between 0 and 40 can still net me 3 d-tilts to a grab combo.
one more thing, it should be known that in general, hitting with the foot of the downtilt will result in a horizontal knockback, while hitting with teh leg will result in a verticle knockback, thus resulting in being able to change them together. however since the verticle knockback is just about entirely verticle, this is what makes it necessary to learn the reverse down tilt, since sonic moves forward with the motion of the down tilt.
lolz, get your game up before you help me, its totally cool by me
Browny
Smash Hater
lol, would you like it if my frame data thread comprised of one post per attack? see how much fun navigating that would become
da K.I.D.
Smash Hero
well this situation is slightly different, but i do see your point....
memphischains
Smash hhkj'
um, i actually do have some dtilt data randomly about mk somewhere.
and its hhkj'.
and its meaning is in itself, hhkj'
hhkj'
and its hhkj'.
and its meaning is in itself, hhkj'
hhkj'
Trillion
Smash Ace
yeah i noticed the vertical vs. horizontal pattern. So, I was trying to, where necessary, specify what part I was hitting with to get some of those chains, because sometimes trying to replicate them could be confusing if you didn't know how I got it. I need to do some studying for tomorrow. Then after that, I will have Wednesday through Tuesday that I may not even check back here and then I have until Jan. 16 to do w/e I want. So I will be able to get all kinds of data and crap in that amount of time. So, I will complete the dtilt data for the rest of the characters and if there is any other data you decide you want, then send me a pm about it or I might not remember to scroll through this thread when I get back next Wed.
TwinkleToes
Smash Lord
It would give me something to do when I'm bored. Do it.
Browny
Smash Hater
if youre bored, you can help me with hitbox testing by finding the extent of sandbag's disjointed hurtbox
TwinkleToes
Smash Lord
It's quite large... Sonic's attacks are not as disjointed as the sandbag makes it seem. I was testing some of those aerials on normal people just yesterday and the distance was just as pitiful as I remembered it being.
I guess it makes sense, the sandbag is supposed to be easy to hit so you can get items and sh*t.
I guess it makes sense, the sandbag is supposed to be easy to hit so you can get items and sh*t.
Browny
Smash Hater
well that doesnt help me lol i need pics
da K.I.D.
Smash Hero
so back to down tilt and box techs...
