Kansas City/Lawrence Discussion Topic

[Moonwalker]

Saints Row 3 is pretty much the greatest ever, thanks for the heads up Dmac! Z, Chef and I will definitely be there tomorrow, food and drinks in tow.

 

[only1Z]

I'll be out in kc for some things tonight adam, don't worry about me until tomorrow getting me home!

 

[RFrizzle]

It ain't a sing along unless you bring the weed along
and we singin tonight

 

[rpotts]

Omg someone prz bring a 64

 

[Juggleguy]

Jaceeeeeeee please re-upload that ****

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yxgk2NfqOoM

 

[Jace08]

yeah sorry about that. I can't re-upload to youtube though, they'd just take it down again. Their copyright detection is too stronk

maybe I'll try putting it on vimeo or something

 

[Jace08]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=lBoL1Ic9uWw

get hype

 

[only1Z]

I'll pick up fitness trainer as a secondary to Megaman so I can troll fatties, I want to troll absurd fanboys first.

Lets go see Superman~

 

[Run DMX]

Fitness Trainer for S tier.

...oh hi, I'm DMX~ :D

 

[Moonwalker]

Yeah I was all about Megaman, but then the best announcment yet happened. Guess we're all maining Wii Fit Trainer then, it's all about that ax stomp. Alzo Z, shouldn't you be just as/if not more hyped for KH3?

 

[Run DMX]

I'm actually interested in the possibilities behind Villager. For instance, if an Animal Crossing were to be made for the WiiU, you could use that Villager in that game which is designed by you. Even an AC stage could be based on your village. Just thoughts. lol

 

[only1Z]

I don't like talking to others about it...and I don't get hype for tech demo's. FFXV is currently standing in my way *which i'm intensely hype for* for the KH3 release.

 

[Massive]

I'm apparently hosting games again this Saturday, Darkrain's sump pump is still being a ****.

 

[Moonwalker]

Ah that makes sense man, my bad. I'm personally more hyped for Majora's Mask feat. Lightning because that char is 2flawless. We'll be there Massive, although I'm leaving around 11pm because work

 

[Run DMX]

I dunno, man. Even if Square Enix were to make a sequel to Majora's Mask with Lightning in it, the Zelda series has been known to crash and burn when given to another developer other than Nintendo...

HYPE

 

[Moonwalker]

Yo, I thought Capcom did a pretty alright job with their Zeldas. That said, I meant that the next bad final fantasy that isn't XV involves beating the game within a certain amount of days, npcs and quests showing up only at certain days, and time travel. There's also going to be clocks shoved on every wall and corner in game to represent time.. (SUBTLETY!)

 

[Strong Badam]

man smashboards stopped giving me notifications of this for like a week, wtf.

i'll prolly be at smash again this weekend, though i'm goin to maxout too. gotta get in that AE practice so I'm not quite as fraudulent for EVO

also it seems like people are actually caring about hype! 3 and it works as a nice pre-EVO tourney for us. we've got dudes coming from texas, chicago, rolla, st. louis, nebraska, and prolly alabama for project m & melee including dope & tink. any sort of support on setups or if you're able to, housing people would be mucho appreciated. lemme know if you can help.

 

[Run DMX]

I'll be heading to the smashfest too. Way too much fun :D

Oh, Mooooooon, I was referring to CDi ._.

 

[Massive]

I'm willing to bed Adam would have nothing but good things to say about the "amazing" CDi games.

 

[Moonwalker]

No guys, those games are bad times. (They do have the best Ganon aside from Twilight Princess though.)

 

[Run DMX]

Ganon was a badass in Twilight Princess. I can't believe I got called in for a job, though >.>

 

[DYC]

Random Jfro sighting at KC Grill and Kabob...

 

[Moonwalker]

Yo DMX, you say that like it's a bad thing. Is this a job with awesome benefits/$$$? Also Jfro confirmed for good taste in food.

 

[Moonwalker]

So I'm definitely going to check out the rest of the boards and don't mean to bug you guys with this, but any small tips on how to improve one's Sheik?

 

[only1Z]

Down throws...up tilts...fairs...I dunno.

 

[RFrizzle]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZOED1FCWT6Q

massive, dmac
ahuehuehuehue

 

[Jace08]

hope you all had a good weekend! sorry for not responding guys my phone always dies at tournaments. I'll bring a charger for now on

maaaaaan rfrizzle I hope that's not "evidence" of a claim that silent wolf is better than PewPewU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Nr2hrVoBbA

I dunno how all their sets have gone, but I think PewPewU is better. His marth does the sickest stuff out of nowhere

 

[Strong Badam]

So I'm definitely going to check out the rest of the boards and don't mean to bug you guys with this, but any small tips on how to improve one's Sheik?

sheik is a very fundamentals-heavy character. there's no unfairness or bull**** you need to be exploiting to make the most of her. there's not a particular lack in anything, she's simply good and fair. you'll perform better with her the better you get as a player. not really much i can say otherwise that isn't obvious.

on another note, does anyone have a ps3-compatible fightstick i can use for evo? mine has been acting up lately

 

[RFrizzle]

Jace why always gotta come in with
ASSUMPTIONS ABOUT PEOPLES HOTEL ROOM AVAILABILITY (subtle poke)
that was "evidence" of shine->wd->dash->jcgrab working on Marth
unless I was being vague and those two really thought I meant I thought just shine->wd grab worked in which case I need more fox knowledge and am very sorry for being a vague little kid

Also MoonWalker (your names Adam imo but whatevs guess it was taken) I'm in the same boat as you where I'm still learning the importance of good fundamentals over flair (even though cf ends up making me overcentralize aspects of my game imo leaving a lot of stuff lacking still) but learn the character inside and out is the fastest way to get some significant improvement, also try to learn to play as dynamically as possible. I'm not suggesting you spam frame knowledge stuff even though that can definitely help out in a few areas. a few big things is learn to nair oos like super duper fast watch darkatma vs kels at SCSYN this year or like KK or M2K vids (I just like Darkatma because midwest4life) and learn when it is okay to shield-grab and when it's not, this is mostly important against spacies but it'll keep you from getting your butt touched by anyone who spacies or does cheesy low aerial-->jab stuff. Learn to cc more, letdown your shield then cc grab stuff idk look at sheik match up boards, watch lots of vids and we'll (we hopefully including a lot of the crew because I like hearing opinions on this sort of stuff) talk more saturday.

 

[Jace08]

oh

I just remember us arguing about those two players at some point

I agree just watch your m2k vids and practice exactly what he's doing. It's a really good starting point

 

[Massive]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZOED1FCWT6Q

massive, dmac
ahuehuehuehue

PPU is visibily in the "stand" action state after the shine connects, he could've countergrabbed or just hit 'a' to keep silent wolf from followup grabbing.

Again, just because you see it happen doesnt mean it's safe.
Really, this is about the same as bowser's koopa-claw release to ftilt: it appears to work on a mixup, but you can actually just hit shield or any quick attack and you will interrupt.
This is like that old argument that waveshine>jab reset is an unbeatable combo for characters that fall (hint: it isn't).

 

[MegaRobMan]

So I'm definitely going to check out the rest of the boards and don't mean to bug you guys with this, but any small tips on how to improve one's Sheik?

I'm not even kidding, practice easy things like shfflnair because missing that and grabbing/fullhop nair can be the difference between their stock and yours. Switching between retreating bair and b-reverse needles at early % is good too, especially if you can figure out a way to get a reset or a grab chance out of it.

reading peoples rolls on d-throw is very important, a lot of people will try to start out going to the left/right and then roll the other way to kind of trick you, but don't get conditioned to fall for that habit, you'll get get up attacked.

 

[darkatma]

If you want to learn sheik fundamentals, watching m2k is not a good way to start. I don't personally believe sheik is better near the ledge, but m2k plays her that way because of his influence from his marth years. That and her gimp game from a back throw is solid.

Possibly the best place to start is with fundamentals:
-Figure out sheik's max distances that her ftilt, dtilt, dash attack can hit from. Oftentimes playing sheik is a matter of spacing so you don't get shieldgrabbed.
-Can you do the 4 frame short hop? It's a bit harder than ganon (7 frame) and falcon (5 frame). If you can, learn to do fairs, bairs, and nairs at various heights with and without fastfall.
-Learn autocombos with sheik: when does dash attack connect into upair/fair? Same with ftilt and dtilt. What can you do out of grab vs a floaty? What about a fastfaller?

I do think that sheik is one of the harder characters to practice without human interaction, unlike fox and falco. Much of her game is reactionary and her combos, aside from the 2-3 hit autocombo ones, tend to be less rigid.

Edit: me and KK both think Swedish Delight is probably the top US sheik right now. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pmA5CVou6-w for some amazing fundamentals.

 

[Phatgamer1]

I guess I need to start practicing for this tournament coming up in a couple of weeks. Anyone fishing for an old washed up sheik that may or may not still be able to put it down?

 

[Run DMX]

I guess I need to start practicing for this tournament coming up in a couple of weeks. Anyone fishing for an old washed up sheik that may or may not still be able to put it down?

Sure, if you can deal with a new, inexperienced Falco who could possible put it up.

 

[only1Z]

Suddenly feel like I just dropped into a gay hookup site.

 

[darkatma]

Jace, just letting you know as early as possible, Deku has expressed interest in Get Hype 3, but he won't confirm till 3-4 days later if he wants to go. You should start looking for other solid teammates in the meantime.

 

[Jace08]

okay thanks for the heads up

man I'm conflicted, I want to play deku again but I also want to team with you ><

 

[rei_vincent]

I think I'll be there to play games this weekend :D

Who's house?

 

[Massive]

I hosted the last 3 weeks back-to-back.

Pretty sure it's not at my place, lol.

Also, anybody want to team with me at this Lawrence tourney?
I am open to the gamut of possibilities from TEAM RAMPAGE to just being a grab-rest *****.