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K. Rool's Kremling Kutthroats: PM BKupa666 for an Invite to the New K. Rool Thread

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Did I call it or did I call it?


They might just be taking their time in putting the SNES ones back on, to ensure the Game Boy ones sell more first.
Bingo. That's probably the reason. Particularly 2-3, which are much closer to ports. Why buy them if you can have the originals?

They're playing the waiting game.
 

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Probably going to pick up whatever DKC titles are put up onto the virtual console when they're released. Never gotten a chance to play them, and I'd rather do so officially than with ROMs.
 
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"The Kremlin who the gang boss and captain of Krul Pirates, Donkey Kong I have been kidnapped. Dixie and brave Diddy is out on a journey to save the donkey. We will proceed with the crocodile island reliable fellow who, while making full use of light action, such as swim, jump, run, help me Diddy us."

Krul the pirate captain confirmed!

And if that bit is true about Donkey, Shrek may also have a chance. :088:
 
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The good news is that we've seen Kritters.

The bad news is that because Smash basically dictates the Nintendo franchises now, especially Retro's DKCs it seems, the next DKC game will have nothing but Kritters. Expect flying Kritters, Kritters on fire, spiky helmet Kritter, a giant Kritter that takes three hits to kill (and it won't be colored blue), and a giant, flying, bloated drum shaped Kritter.
 

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And if that bit is true about Donkey, Shrek may also have a chance. :088:
"The people on Miiverse are stupid," they said. "They ask for ****ty characters like Goku and Shrek," they said.

WELL WHO'S STUPID NOW, *******
 
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This, too, is possible. There's a chance he gets shown at E3, but people oughtn't be worried if he's not there. We're getting 2, maybe 3 newcomers there, and, based on the last E3, not all of them are going to be fan favorites.

K. Rool propaganda. I like it. :laugh:
 

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The good news is that we've seen Kritters.

The bad news is that because Smash basically dictates the Nintendo franchises now, especially Retro's DKCs it seems, the next DKC game will have nothing but Kritters. Expect flying Kritters, Kritters on fire, spiky helmet Kritter, a giant Kritter that takes three hits to kill (and it won't be colored blue), and a giant, flying, bloated drum shaped Kritter.
Now I can't imagine why you wouldn't want to see Kareen, Kombust, Kovered, Kolossus and Korpulent added to the Kremling Krew.
 
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Can we just talk about how we're quite possibly the only sane K. Rool fans on the internet?

I just found some fanfics.

*shudder*
 

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Whats it proove its virtual console game (and yes I know its a gbc DKC game)

Does it say anything about ssb4
One of the less credible arguments against K. Rool was that he was owned by Rare, and another was that his games aren't relevant anymore. This disproves both. It also insinuates that it's not impossible to use his DKC design as opposed to the Paon one.
 

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The page even mentions K. Rool by name. :colorful:
When I translated it, I got this:

"This software is an action game for the Game Boy was released in 1996.
The Kremlin who the gang boss and captain of Krul Pirates, Donkey Kong I have been kidnapped. Dixie and brave Diddy is out on a journey to save the donkey. We will proceed with the crocodile island reliable fellow who, while making full use of light action, such as swim, jump, run, help me Diddy us."
 
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Well, well, well. A small bit of...odd...information has just been unearthed regarding the great King himself and Super Smash Brothers Brawl that might just be the final boost of support that K. Rool needs.

If you go and check out the last couple of pages in the SSB4 Rumors thread, you'll find that a leak was posted where a kid used the Way Back Machine (a program that archives old and deleted webpages, and allows you to visit old snapshots of webpages) to check out the character URLs for the Smash 4 website. The video can be found here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oTqTvJaZukE

Obviously, this leak is fake (Geno, Neku, Ocelot, Trails???), but this lead people to check out the URL history for characters on the Japanese website. Not much was discovered other than a ton of Brawl dojo related content...but there was one thing that REALLY stood out...to me at least. There is a character page listed for King K. Rool. Here is the link to the page where it is listed (his name can be found in-between King Dedede and Kirby):

http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://www.smashbros.com/jp/characters/*

EDIT: The listing is on page 22.

Of course, the page isn't view-able. It most likely doesn't even exist anymore, but the fact that it is listed in this archive means that it existed at one point in time. The question is: why?

Could King K. Rool have been planned for Brawl, but scrapped like other characters? If so, it would be strange that no character data for him can be found in the Brawl data, while others such as Mewtwo and Roy can. Furthermore, why does he have a character page while other characters who were further along in development do not?

Personally, I believe this means that K. Rool was indeed a planned character for Brawl, but just didn't make it cut. Now, we all know that Sakurai likes to revisit old ideas (as seen by Villager being planned for Brawl, and now being in Smash 4). It wouldn't be a surprise to see a character who was scrapped from Brawl appear in the new game. With all the other bits of information, such as K. Rool's immense popularity and demand, the massive resurgence of the Donkey Kong series, and the Kritters appearing in the Smash Run mode, I think it's safe to say that K. Rool will most likely be playable in Smash 4.
 
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Well, well, well. A small bit of...odd...information has just been unearthed regarding the great King himself and Super Smash Brothers Brawl that might just be the final boost of support that K. Rool needs.

If you go and check out the last couple of pages in the SSB4 Rumors thread, you'll find that a leak was posted where a kid used the Way Back Machine (a program that archives old and deleted webpages, and allows you to visit old snapshots of webpages) to check out the character URLs for the Smash 4 website. The video can be found here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oTqTvJaZukE

Obviously, this leak is fake (Geno, Neku, Ocelot, Trails???), but this lead people to check out the URL history for characters on the Japanese website. Not much was discovered other than a ton of Brawl dojo related content...but there was one thing that REALLY stood out...to me at least. There is a character page listed for King K. Rool. Here is the link to the page where it is listed (his name can be found in-between King Dedede and Kirby):

http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://www.smashbros.com/jp/characters/*

Of course, the page isn't view-able. It most likely doesn't even exist anymore, but the fact that it is listed in this archive means that it existed at one point in time. The question is: why?

Could King K. Rool have been planned for Brawl, but scrapped like other characters? If so, it would be strange that no character data for him can be found in the Brawl data, while others such as Mewtwo and Roy can. Furthermore, why does he have a character page while other characters who were further along in development do not?

Personally, I believe this means that K. Rool was indeed a planned character for Brawl, but just didn't make it cut. Now, we all know that Sakurai likes to revisit old ideas (as seen by Villager being planned for Brawl, and now being in Smash 4). It wouldn't be a surprise to see a character who was scrapped from Brawl appear in the new game. With all the other bits of information, such as K. Rool's immense popularity and demand, the massive resurgence of the Donkey Kong series, and the Kritters appearing in the Smash Run mode, I think it's safe to say that K. Rool will most likely be playable in Smash 4.
You didn't happen to have the foresight to take a snap of it did you? (Like "Prt Scr" or something)

(If this is a troll btw, I'm going to be very upset.)
 

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You didn't happen to have the foresight to take a snap of it did you? (Like "Prt Scr" or something)

(If this is a troll btw, I'm going to be very upset.)
No, sorry. I'm on my phone now. I did provide a link to the page where the listing is.

If you are asking for a screenshot of the K. Rool page, there is none. As I said, the page isn't view-able (it doesn't even exist anymore), and when it was, it was probably only view-able to the development team. Like I said, even though the page is gone, the listing shows that a Brawl dojo character page for King K. Rool did exist at some point.
 

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Well, well, well. A small bit of...odd...information has just been unearthed regarding the great King himself and Super Smash Brothers Brawl that might just be the final boost of support that K. Rool needs.

If you go and check out the last couple of pages in the SSB4 Rumors thread, you'll find that a leak was posted where a kid used the Way Back Machine (a program that archives old and deleted webpages, and allows you to visit old snapshots of webpages) to check out the character URLs for the Smash 4 website. The video can be found here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oTqTvJaZukE

Obviously, this leak is fake (Geno, Neku, Ocelot, Trails???), but this lead people to check out the URL history for characters on the Japanese website. Not much was discovered other than a ton of Brawl dojo related content...but there was one thing that REALLY stood out...to me at least. There is a character page listed for King K. Rool. Here is the link to the page where it is listed (his name can be found in-between King Dedede and Kirby):

http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://www.smashbros.com/jp/characters/*

Of course, the page isn't view-able. It most likely doesn't even exist anymore, but the fact that it is listed in this archive means that it existed at one point in time. The question is: why?

Could King K. Rool have been planned for Brawl, but scrapped like other characters? If so, it would be strange that no character data for him can be found in the Brawl data, while others such as Mewtwo and Roy can. Furthermore, why does he have a character page while other characters who were further along in development do not?

Personally, I believe this means that K. Rool was indeed a planned character for Brawl, but just didn't make it cut. Now, we all know that Sakurai likes to revisit old ideas (as seen by Villager being planned for Brawl, and now being in Smash 4). It wouldn't be a surprise to see a character who was scrapped from Brawl appear in the new game. With all the other bits of information, such as K. Rool's immense popularity and demand, the massive resurgence of the Donkey Kong series, and the Kritters appearing in the Smash Run mode, I think it's safe to say that K. Rool will most likely be playable in Smash 4.
Better hope you can verify this, because the archive shows no such listing.

EDIT: Found it in the HTML source code.
 
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After digging around through the Wayback Machine, apparently the capture forKing K. Rool's listing was done December 28th, 2007, and yielded only one capture. Obviously, the page did not last long. What is fascinating is that there was another character page captured within that same time frame with only one capture as well: Wolf. Now, is this some sort of grand conspiracy? Probably not. It's possible a web administrator got the file name wrong for an HTML page and corrected their mistake. Considering both Wolf and King K. Rool's pages were uploaded at the same time, it's possible that is where the mistake was made.
 
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I'm not quite sure yet what ramifications (or lack thereof) K. Rool having an old HTML page may have, but in the meantime, here is a GIF of one of the Kritters Rare sold Nintendo. The Blue Kritter is using a spinning jump, which harkens back to blue Kritters originally being the jumping ones back in DKC.



To borrow an observation from the DKVine Facebook page, remember, it's the White Kritters who can't jump.
 
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Blue Kritters are mocking Dixie Kong. :troll:

That's pretty cool, it also looks like that move may have been inspired from Barrel Blast, where the Kritter performed a spin attack with a similar whirling visual effect.
 

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That K. Rool HTML code is actually really interesting...
 

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No, sorry. I'm on my phone now. I did provide a link to the page where the listing is.

If you are asking for a screenshot of the K. Rool page, there is none. As I said, the page isn't view-able (it doesn't even exist anymore), and when it was, it was probably only view-able to the development team. Like I said, even though the page is gone, the listing shows that a Brawl dojo character page for King K. Rool did exist at some point.
Oh wow, it's actually there. That is crazy.

EDIT- Actually, that K. Rool capture means is somebody visited the nonexistent page in 2007 and that it wound up on the Wayback Machine. Someone probably linked to the page as a joke on some forum, and that gave the page traffic.
 
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K. Rool having a Brawl Dojo page is pretty K. Razy. :awesome:

Still, interesting. Sakurai probably had more planned for him back then.
 

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Are we sure that's actually a page for him, though? As what (character, AT, boss)? And if it is, what the heck is 'Crash' and why did he have a page too?
 

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Are we sure that's actually a page for him, though? As what (character, AT, boss)? And if it is, what the heck is 'Crash' and why did he have a page too?
Crash Bandicoot.
And since Sakurai likes to revisit old ideas, Crash Bandicoot confirmed. :troll:
 

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Everyone is talking about the Kritters, but let's not forget that Klaptraps have also made comeback, if only on a recycled stage.



I'm really curious now as to what the new DK stages will be. Why haven't they been shown yet? Could they really be something heavily associated with K. Rool, like Gangplank Galleon or Crocodile Isle, so they can't show them before his reveal? Then again, it would be weird if we didn't have a DKCR or maybe DKCTF (too recent?) stage.
 
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Everyone is talking about the Kritters, but let's not forget that Klaptraps have also made comeback, if only on a recycled stage.



I'm really curious now as to what the new DK stages will be. Why haven't they been shown yet? Could they really be something heavily associated with K. Rool, like Gangplank Galleon or Crocodile Isle, so they can't show them before his reveal? Then again, it would be weird if we didn't have a DKCR or maybe DKCTF (too recent?) stage.
Well I'm gonna guess that DK gets at least 2 new stages since thats been the case ever since meele. I'm pretty sure DKCTF is too recent ( the lack of snowmads and confirmation of tiki's in the adventure mode) so they will probably go with a generic jungle map( like they always do) to represent DKCR and hopefully they will add the Gangplank which would be another chance in crease for the King.
 

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Well, well, well. A small bit of...odd...information has just been unearthed regarding the great King himself and Super Smash Brothers Brawl that might just be the final boost of support that K. Rool needs.

If you go and check out the last couple of pages in the SSB4 Rumors thread, you'll find that a leak was posted where a kid used the Way Back Machine (a program that archives old and deleted webpages, and allows you to visit old snapshots of webpages) to check out the character URLs for the Smash 4 website. The video can be found here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oTqTvJaZukE

Obviously, this leak is fake (Geno, Neku, Ocelot, Trails???), but this lead people to check out the URL history for characters on the Japanese website. Not much was discovered other than a ton of Brawl dojo related content...but there was one thing that REALLY stood out...to me at least. There is a character page listed for King K. Rool. Here is the link to the page where it is listed (his name can be found in-between King Dedede and Kirby):

http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://www.smashbros.com/jp/characters/*

EDIT: The listing is on page 22.

Of course, the page isn't view-able. It most likely doesn't even exist anymore, but the fact that it is listed in this archive means that it existed at one point in time. The question is: why?

Could King K. Rool have been planned for Brawl, but scrapped like other characters? If so, it would be strange that no character data for him can be found in the Brawl data, while others such as Mewtwo and Roy can. Furthermore, why does he have a character page while other characters who were further along in development do not?

Personally, I believe this means that K. Rool was indeed a planned character for Brawl, but just didn't make it cut. Now, we all know that Sakurai likes to revisit old ideas (as seen by Villager being planned for Brawl, and now being in Smash 4). It wouldn't be a surprise to see a character who was scrapped from Brawl appear in the new game. With all the other bits of information, such as K. Rool's immense popularity and demand, the massive resurgence of the Donkey Kong series, and the Kritters appearing in the Smash Run mode, I think it's safe to say that K. Rool will most likely be playable in Smash 4.
Great findings.
 
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I'm not quite sure yet what ramifications (or lack thereof) K. Rool having an old HTML page may have, but in the meantime, here is a GIF of one of the Kritters Rare sold Nintendo. The Blue Kritter is using a spinning jump, which harkens back to blue Kritters originally being the jumping ones back in DKC.



To borrow an observation from the DKVine Facebook page, remember, it's the White Kritters who can't jump.
There's something very special about seeing a Kremling not only used as a generic enemy, but given some more personality. I can see elements of K. Rool in there, though on a small level considering the simplicity of the spin jump.

This is still the best use of Kremlings in a 2D game for a long, long time.
 

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Well I'm gonna guess that DK gets at least 2 new stages since thats been the case ever since meele. I'm pretty sure DKCTF is too recent ( the lack of snowmads and confirmation of tiki's in the adventure mode) so they will probably go with a generic jungle map( like they always do) to represent DKCR and hopefully they will add the Gangplank which would be another chance in crease for the King.
I think you're wrong. I mean they were able to put a character in the game who has only appeared in a game being released in october or november(Greninja)(sorry, don't remember the exact release). The 3DS version won't have a Tropical Freeze stage, I agree with you. But the WiiU version has more time and to add a single stage based on DKC:TF wouldn't be that difficult after all. To put new characters with unique movesets in the game needs more effort than a simple stage. The lack of snowmads in the Smash run may be because release of the 3DS version is already close. Also we don't know if we were to see ALL the Smash run ennemies in the few minutes Sakurai explained Smash run.

Another point we shouldn't underestimate: When we learn about new games being released, the Nintendo developers probably know already a bit more about the upcoming titles. I mean if Sakurai were only to hear about a new DKC game being developed and released before the new SSB4 games, then I believe he would ask for a few details to bring some parts of it already in these games.

After all, Greninja is the best example to show new stuff can still make it into the game. There were people saying things like "probably we won't get a Pokémon from the latest games as these are too new to be in the game."

If Sakurai were interested to put things from Tropical Freeze in the game(and I actually think he is interested), then he will be able to do so. Nevertheless, this won't hurt the chances of King K.Rool that much.

The best scenario would however be having both, K.Rool and Dixie in the game. Would be a win-win situation for every Donkey Kong fan ;)
 
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