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Well, it also has Ridley and he;s not popular there
Apprently this was drawn by a big donkey kong country fan in Japan on Miiverse. It shows the K.Rool is still popular in Japan.
Haha, reminds me of an 'All-Out Attack'!
Little Mac and Ridley huh? That's really cool. I think their lack of popularity is probably exaggerated, but it's true that they're not nearly as requested as Mewtwo or Mega Man were.
Apprently this was drawn by a big donkey kong country fan in Japan on Miiverse. It shows the K.Rool is still popular in Japan.
And Little Mac.Yeah, quite surprised to see Ridley in a Japanese guy's drawing.
What? K Rool was the leader of the Kremlins in DKC3I was talking with a friend today regarding K. Rool, and I'd like to share our speculation/theories here:
K. Rool's Backstory
- K. Rool is not the king/master of the Kremlings by birthright. If he was, he wouldn't have been hanging out with Cranky and participating in dangerous/life-threatening activities as a child, but instead have been heavily guarded (this point pulls from the DKC cartoon). How did he acquire power then? Well, the Northern Kremisphere was originally ruled by bears. K. Rool led the Kremlings into battle against the bears in the Kremean War, and in doing so, gained power after their victory (more on how he attained victory below). The aftermath is apparent in the events of DKC3, as the area is seen controlled by Kremlings.
- Before the war, when K. Rool still hung out with Cranky, he attended Kong Kollege with him and all the other Kongs (this was where he learned to spell his c's with k's). Before long, he noticed that what he was being taught was utter krockshate (the incorrect answers to the math problems on the board, the incorrect spelling, etc), and dropped out. What he saw led him to believe that the apes were inferior beings to him, and from that point on, referred to them as dumb apes or the like. He began cheating in competitions with Cranky and broke off their friendship soon after.
Kremling Source
- How can there be masses of identical Kremlings if there are no female members (excluding Kalypso/Kass)? How can they reproduce? Well the DKC2 manual states: "There are rumors of a lost world located deep beneath Crocodile Isle. It has been said that this is the source of the Kremlings." With this in mind, K. Rool harnessed the energy (I think I read somewhere that it was called the "Kremling Source") in the center of Krocodile Kore to clone hordes of mindless crocodilian soldiers. Have you guys noticed how DKC1 and DKC2's Kremlings looked so alike, just dressed differently? Zingers remained identical, Klomps are basically Kritters, and the manual even refers to Kannons as Klumps. The Kremlings in DKC1/2 were all clones. That's why after the Kremling Source got destroyed in DKC2, the total population seemed to have noticeably diminished, and the Kremlings looked entirely different (Kritters and Klomps from DKC1/2 looked different than Kobbles in DKC3, and Kritters in DK64/Jungle Climber).
- This is how K. Rool won the Kremean War - by amassing a huge army of crocodilian warriors to greatly outnumber the bears. This cloning concept also explains why Kremlings/Kremling Allies outnumber the bears/Kongs/other wildlife so greatly.
K. Rool's Master Status/Different Kremlings
- Perhaps this is why K. Rool's underlings are still loyal to him and are at his service even though he treats them harshly and brutally. He created them; they exist to do his bidding. But how come he wasn't Master during DKC3? I propose that he wasn't the ruler of the entire Kremling race originally, but rather only within his cloned group of minions for some time. For the war, DKC1, and DKC2, he only selected the very best troops to be cloned and brought with him. The rest of the population chose to reside in the Northern Kremisphere, a place which became popular for Kremlings to go to, as the low number of bears seemed to be not much of a threat. None of the Kremlings there even heard of K. Rool, for after the liberation of the area, K. Rool left and took all of his troops with him for the events of DKC1. After the Kremling Source and his clone army was demolished, K. Rool had to work with the remaining - the real non-cloned Kremlings. The problem was seizing power. He had to use a puppet leader, KAOS, who seemed like a very powerful, promising figure. After DKC3, all there was left were the troops from DK64, which were far more wimpy in comparison (compare the Kritters/Klomps in DKC1/2 to the incompetent Kritters in DK64). He eventually regained supreme rule by establishing a new mechanical island home for the rest of the Kremling population.
Tell me what you guys think, and share your ideas.
Yes, K. Rool was the the one in control, but he had to rule indirectly through KAOS. My point was that there were other cultures of Kremlings that existed and K. Rool just ruled his group of clones until DK64, where he gained full control over the remaining Kremlings. Perhaps the ones in DKC3 wouldn't listen to him so he had to use a puppet ruler that appealed to them.What? K Rool was the leader of the Kremlins in DKC3
I'm surprised that Little Mac and Ridley are in this pic despite the fact that they aren't popular in Japan. It's also rather cool to see Black Shadow be in this pic as it shows how popular he is over there, most likely attributed to the F-Zero anime I believe.
Apprently this was drawn by a big donkey kong country fan in Japan on Miiverse. It shows the K.Rool is still popular in Japan.
I always thought that King K. Rool's childish enthusiasm was charming. Sure, he does go off the deep end to the point that he's a crazy scoundrel 100%, but when you fight him in DKC, I thought he was more immature and giddy than diabolical. Almost like he tried to starve the Kongs as more of a prank than a threat.K.Rool has no redeeming qualities.
Well, DK may live on the lower levels of his island, but he does live in a towerAnother great analysis:
"Another reason K. Rool works so well is that he's a perfect contrast to Donkey Kong if we look as both as the head of their people.
K. Rool is a sociopathic oligarch who doesn't give a **** about his people, his heritage or his homeland. All that matters is personal power and wealth. He lives in a massive gothic castle, towering high above the citizens of his island, and is willing to sell everyone and everything down the river for power grabs, or, worse, matters of personal pride. His documented disregard for the environment is just one of many examples of him putting personal wealth over the benefit of others.
Donkey Kong relies, depends on, and protects his friends, family, and the animals of his island. He lives at the base of his island, among the people, in a small wooden treehouse, his only accumulation of personal wealth being his love for bananas. The only time he ever shows rage is when someone threatens the Island, its environment, or the way of life of the Kongs.
Complete polar opposites, which is why they make such great enemies."
I think they just would rather have a metroid gamegeez.. I'm not a user of NeoGAF, but I usually read the threads (especially the Smash4 one) at work for get easy access to Smash related news... but what's wrong with them? Why they hate the Donkey Kong series? lol... actually, I feel that Nintendo for them is only Fire Emblem, Pokémon and their potentials "waifus", lol...
this was relevant for here just because this started by a "K. Rool discussion".. worth or not worth character and such. :\/
Don't.Seriously, no "Hardcore" gamer would complain about Donkey Kong if it wasn't made by the same people as their precious Prime
Only going there because I always see the comment "They needed to make metroid for us hardcore gamers" whenever someone talks **** of the DKCR seriesDon't.
Seriously.
can't agree more... but.. you know, I think that would turn in a OFF-topic debate; but yeah.. I think that the "big hate" around DK nowadays is "Metroid's fault"I think they just would rather have a metroid game
Personally, I love the DKC games and am not that interested in a prime game.
I would love a metroidvania metroid game though
Seriously, no "Hardcore" gamer would complain about Donkey Kong if it wasn't made by the same people as their precious Prime
I've read and mostly agreed with a theory I've seen tossed around, labeled the "Nintendo Fan Inferiority Complex." It basically entails a group of vocal Nintendo fans being internally insecure that Nintendo isn't considered a viable competitor against Sony and Microsoft, in their mind due to the colorful and cartoony nature of many of their IPs. These fans, the theory states, believe that this nature stems from Nintendo of Japan, and thus, the further a gaming studio is from Japan, the better the chance they have of producing a "hardcore" or "mature" game comparable to a Halo or a Call of Duty (and Metroid is often pegged in this niche, maybe due to it having a futuristic helmeted protagonist). This is where Retro Studios comes into play; people believe Retro is the only studio capable of creating such a game. This is why people demand that they "reboot" basically every franchise under the sun while simultaneously taking every opportunity to s*** all over games like DKC, which they believe could be churned out on a yearly basis like the NSMB shovelware (when in reality, they require a massive amount of effort over multiple years).geez.. I'm not a user of NeoGAF, but I usually read the threads (especially the Smash4 one) at work for get easy access to Smash related news... but what's wrong with them? Why they hate the Donkey Kong series? lol... actually, I feel that Nintendo for them is only Fire Emblem, Pokémon and their potentials "waifus", lol...
this was relevant for here just because this started by a "K. Rool discussion".. worth or not worth character and such. :\/
The Diddy argument/logic makes too much sense. It is basically the same scenario.Honestly, I'm not counting King K. Rool out by any means. I still believe he has a pretty high chance.
+ He was wanted in Melee, and very highly requested for Brawl. Now? He is among one of the highest requested I'd say; at Mega Man levels (before he was confirmed, obviously).
+ The whole Rare load of krock (yes I went there) needs to stop please... Seriously. Nintendo has the right to do what they please with him.
+ He has the potential to be as unique as even Mega Man or Villager, who are both very intriguing, because he has had so many tools / tricks / gadgets over the years in DKC. Honestly, the hardest part to making a moveset to him is deciding what to put where. Ground Pound Shockwave (DK64) - The helicopter he had (DKC3) - The Punching Gloves (DK64) - His crown (DKC) - The Blunderbuss (DKC2) - This list goes on and on, just naming a few things.
+ Alongside his tools, his size can contribute to his moveset as well, as Welshy pointed out.
- His only downside is that many believe he's doomed because he hasn't appeared in a while, while this is frightening, Diddy was absent for Jungle Beat, yet he ended up in SSBB.
Bias aside, Sakurai wants unique characters? King K. Rool fits the bill for unique to a tee. Frankly, the amount of hype that K. Rool would rack up would be tremendous. His moveset has the potential to be extraordinary unique, and there isn't really a reason why Donkey Kong cannot have four reps (assuming Dixie finds her way in).
All this aside though, this is Sakurai we're dealing with... I guess we wait.
DKC series was never made by a Japanese company to begin withI've read and mostly agreed with a theory I've seen tossed around, labeled the "Nintendo Fan Inferiority Complex." It basically entails a group of vocal Nintendo fans being internally insecure that Nintendo isn't considered a viable competitor against Sony and Microsoft, in their mind due to the colorful and cartoony nature of many of their IPs. These fans, the theory states, believe that this nature stems from Nintendo of Japan, and thus, the further a gaming studio is from Japan, the better the chance they have of producing a "hardcore" or "mature" game comparable to a Halo or a Call of Duty (and Metroid is often pegged in this niche, maybe due to it having a futuristic helmeted protagonist). This is where Retro Studios comes into play; people believe Retro is the only studio capable of creating such a game. This is why people demand that they "reboot" basically every franchise under the sun while simultaneously taking every opportunity to s*** all over games like DKC, which they believe could be churned out on a yearly basis like the NSMB shovelware (when in reality, they require a massive amount of effort over multiple years).
Of course, the theory is far from universal, and I'm sure a lot of the good, reasonable fans want games like Metroid made because they're fans of the series, but I think, for those on the darker side, the above theory isn't far-fetched in the slightest. And it's not about to go away, given that Retro is already bringing up ideas about animal buddies and the like for a potential third DKC.
I don't think any newcomers (or Melee cuts) are going to be saved for post-release reveals.At this point, I'm wondering, if K. Rool is playable, whether he'd be revealed before or after release.
Truth be told, there's nothing more immature than mindless gun slinging action and acting like a total jerk, which is basically most AAA games these days!!!Of course, the theory is far from universal, and I'm sure a lot of the good, reasonable fans want games like Metroid made because they're fans of the series, but I think, for those on the darker side, the above theory isn't far-fetched in the slightest. And it's not about to go away, given that Retro is already bringing up ideas about animal buddies and the like for a potential third DKC.
Compared to "who's left", Ridley, Little Mac, Palutena, and especially K. Rool are most definitely popular, for sure.Well, it also has Ridley and he;s not popular there
Sakurai already stated that non-fighters are more likely to appear in the game than fighting-based characters like Little Mac, so Mii's are actually more possible (also relevant) to appear.I mean other than them, we essentially have non-fighters, Miis, characters from (apparently) non-continuing IP's (Golden Sun, Star Fox, F-Zero, etc), and a bunch of D-grade or "new" (see: Shulk, lots of Pokémon) Nintendo characters.
This is taking it completely out of context. It doesn't affect Mac at all, really.Sakurai already stated that non-fighters are more likely to appear in the game than fighting-based characters like Little Mac, so Mii's are actually more possible (also relevant) to appear.
Well, these are the same people who claim that the DKC series is part of the Mario series, so...DKC series was never made by a Japanese company to begin with
People are stupid
*fixed.The Japanese website's put 5 songs up to sample, figured it'd be good to share since everyone's hyped to hear more David Wise.
http://www.nintendo.co.jp/wiiu/arkj/images/bgm1.mp3
http://www.nintendo.co.jp/wiiu/arkj/images/bgm2.mp3
http://www.nintendo.co.jp/wiiu/arkj/images/bgm3.mp3
http://www.nintendo.co.jp/wiiu/arkj/images/bgm4.mp3
http://www.nintendo.co.jp/wiiu/arkj/images/bgm5.mp3
David Wise, why you so good?