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Arcansi

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arcansi is probably right. might take less work to fix one character than the whole roster
Game balance is the one thing I find I'm almost never incorrect about. This is probably because I want to be a game balancer when I grow up.

I may not know how people wan to play the game or why people won't just learn, but I can tell you if, when, and at what level of play something is overpowered/underpowered/balanced.
 

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I used the cancel on aerial jolts all the time to like, shoot a jolt and then cancel it into a QAC or something so that I could follow the trajectory of the jolt and put the opponent in a bad situation where they're being attacked by a jolt and a chu. I also used it for camping and to continue some combos.

Grounded jolt cancel I used all the time cause if I just let loose a grounded jolt I could either cancel it into shield if the opponent comes at me, or run up and attack them to combo out of the jolt.


Maybe I don't even have a right to be mad though, I don't play this game much anymore
 

Arcansi

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I used the cancel on aerial jolts all the time to like, shoot a jolt and then cancel it into a QAC or something so that I could follow the trajectory of the jolt and put the opponent in a bad situation where they're being attacked by a jolt and a chu. I also used it for camping and to continue some combos.
20 frames won't change any of this, save maybe 1/100 cases where playing better (being in the correct spot aerially by about one-third a pika length) would still fix it.

Grounded jolt cancel I used all the time cause if I just let loose a grounded jolt I could either cancel it into shield if the opponent comes at me, or run up and attack them to combo out of the jolt.
You can still do jump cancelled shield I'm pretty sure. (I don't know if that's an actual tech but i seem to remember it being one so I'm going to assume it is.

Your approach got nerfed slightly, but it was probably very warranted. You can still jump > jolt (combos) and combo out, cant you?

Maybe I don't even have a right to be mad though, I don't play this game much anymore
What is the concept of a right to be mad?

Do I not have a right to be mad if pit gets buffed to the level of MK status in the next smash bros (but doesn't get banned) and as such ruins(poisons, whatever you want to call it) the game as he does?

What if he simply gets buffed into top tier and I knowingly beat people not because I'm better then them but because of the matchup?
 

Drake12

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In minus there must be a medium between balanced and broken. For example imagine how broken it's be if snakes ftilt did 60% or something like that. The game isn't super broken like that because they want it to be fun and balanced witt pants on head ******** characters. therefore they nerf %, gimmicks lag and frames.

I wish we could do some kind of Survivor vote and kick Arcansi out of this thread.
Whether this was mean, rude uncalled for or anything else, I will admit I laughed a little bit. Arcansi is taking a lot of flak though, where I think we should do more accepting of who he is (even if it grinds your gears)
 

Arcansi

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Nah I removed him from it after he didn't realize I was housing with him in BC. He was telling me how he was salty about things Frio said. LOL!
I realized there was a good chance it was one of you, and had hoped to get an explanation//some reasoning.

I didn't, but w/e. I have no control and no real care if you guys ignore me. I would prefer it not be such, but only because I want to make my character as nice as possible, and not annoying//other bad things that would cause me to get ignored.

Whether this was mean, rude uncalled for or anything else, I will admit I laughed a little bit. Arcansi is taking a lot of flak though, where I think we should do more accepting of who he is (even if it grinds your gears)
Thing is, I keep asking why and getting no answers....

How can I change if I am not told how?
 

Alacion

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Whether this was mean, rude uncalled for or anything else, I will admit I laughed a little bit. Arcansi is taking a lot of flak though, where I think we should do more accepting of who he is (even if it grinds your gears)
I think most of us tried... really, really hard already.

How can I change if I am not told how?
Stop arguing on Smashboards forever. Problem solved. :)

(The game will never become what you want it to be so whyyyyy bother?)
 

KuroganeHammer

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People put you on ignore because you argue and never stop arguing and they find it annoying.

I think.

tide: Ninja'd by Kevin lol
 

Arcansi

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I think most of us tried... really, really hard already.
All I was really told was to stop arguing. Which I've mostly done, save on issues that actually affect me (MK being legal, any other such changes that can affect phoenix events.)

Stop arguing on Smashboards forever. Problem solved. :)

(The game will never become what you want it to be so whyyyyy bother?)
I don't know. I don't know why I act the way I do, or care so much about everything. I have some idea that it has to do with my combination of ADHD + Aspergers, but I'm not about to blame my actions on my having a disorder or the possibility of.

People put you on ignore because you argue and never stop arguing and they find it annoying.

I think.
This used to be true. But I've stopped arguing needlessly, have I not?

:fluttershy:
 

Drake12

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Well for what its worth I don't think you were out of place here.
Knowing you have ADHD and aspergers explains a lot. My younger sister has aspergers and we just deal with it knowing that it causes a LOT of stress on us and frustration.
I think it would do the community good to be aware of this. It really helped with my patience and understanding...although I know it would suck to be labelled on having these.
 

Arcansi

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Well for what its worth I don't think you were out of place here.
Knowing you have ADHD and aspergers explains a lot. My younger sister has it and we just deal with it knowing that it causes a LOT of stress on us and frustration.
I think it would do the community good to be aware of this. It really helped with my patience and understanding...although I know it would suck to be labelled on having these.
I don't put it out into the open because I can never know if anyone is being sincere once I say so.

Like, I'll have an idea for most people, but anyone I don't really know now...I have no idea.
 

Alacion

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Wow everything makes SO much sense now.

By the way, Peach players are the most tolerant and accepting people you'll EVER meet <3
 

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haha, I'd agree to that. You were one of the most accepting person in the community to me. Although it's obvious not me that needs to be accepted right now.
 

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So, I'm not supposed to deny anything anyone says?

This seems like you guys just want me to be a doormat.
Not at all, defend yourself where necessary, and feel free to argue on things you know you can win (example: I say MK is the worst character in the game), but try to avoid arguments that are difficult for you to prove, because you tend to go on and on and on and on and on forever ad infinitum and this frustrates people.

As for your ADHD and Aspergers, just let people know. I doubt anyone here would say anything nasty or anything. :)
 

Drake12

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Honestly, I think the way to fix this is
1.have the community know that someone with Aspergers mind works very differently then ours. Not better, not worse, but very differently. Be extra accepting and patient with this in mind.
2. Arcansi, you drag out the arguements. Thats where the problem is. Arguing: sure. But you need to know when to throw in the towel, call it quits and simply agree to disagree.
I hope no one thinks I'm being judgmental, I didn't treat others as well as I should've.
 

Alacion

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Initially, I tried to be nice and telling people they should be too. But then the arguing never stopped, and insults started being fired and I couldn't take it anymore.

We'd understand if we knew you had something like Asperger Syndrome. Since none of us actually knew this, we thought you were just really arrogant and whatnot. BC Brawl players are a nice group of people and I'm sure most of us would accept you for who you are (exception being... well that guy).
 

Drake12

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Imo I'm glad you said that arcansi. I have more patience knowing that. It also makes sense as to why you do not understand when we get upset or bothered. Not that you are in the fault or that we are at fault, just that we have a different perspective which is what rasies the conflict.

Another question: are you uncomfortable with this whole topic being discussed?
 

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One of my best friends has Asperger's, though I don't think any two people with Asperger's can really be compared. I'm glad that you told us this, Dakota, and I don't think you should worry about people not treating you with sincerity.
 

Arcansi

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You mean you don't wanna be judged or insulted over it, and you aren't comfortable in the community to be open with that?
Don't wanna be treated differently because of it. I don't feel like I would get insulted about it.

I'm comfortable enough to be open about it anywhere, if I could be assured that people wouldn't treat me differently. (If it's normal to expect this, I guess im not comfortable.) (aside from things directly related to understanding these facts, i guess)

Wow everything makes SO much sense now.
What do you mean?

haha, I'd agree to that. You were one of the most accepting person in the community to me. Although it's obvious not me that needs to be accepted right now.
This statement feels really late.

Not at all, defend yourself where necessary, and feel free to argue on things you know you can win (example: I say MK is the worst character in the game), but try to avoid arguments that are difficult for you to prove, because you tend to go on and on and on and on and on forever ad infinitum and this frustrates people.
1. Ok.

2. I only go as far as the other person(people) do. Is this bad?

As for your ADHD and Aspergers, just let people know. I doubt anyone here would say anything nasty or anything. :)
Enough stuff goes on behind my back that I don't know 90% of what people say, and likely never have.

One of my best friends has Asperger's, though I don't think any two people with Asperger's can really be compared. I'm glad that you told us this, Dakota, and I don't think you should worry about people not treating you with sincerity.
Kk.

It's a weird syndrome, but I don't really know.

Alberta thought you were just trolling/being rude bro.
I get this, but I would have appreciated you just ask. Thanks a lot for telling me though.
 

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So I'm thinking about learning/using/friendly-ing with a secondary character that's not Zelda and also complements my main. Any suggestions? :)
 

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2. I only go as far as the other person(people) do. Is this bad?
Depends.

Enough stuff goes on behind my back that I don't know 90% of what people say, and likely never have.
Eh, you should trust your smash buddies more.

There's a guy in our scene who has autism, if someone makes fun of him behind his back, then that would be horrible and my respect for the person making fun of him would be lowered immensely. I like to think the BC people are like me in this way. :)

@Kevin - Dedede. :awesome:
 

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No I consider Zelda a secondary, but I want another one but no fake kings.

I main :peach::peach::peach::peach::peach::peach:!
 
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