Bestiarius
Smash Ace
So typhdashing is just pivoting?
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Ivysaur Tactical Discussion
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Bestiarius
Smash Ace
WHAT. IS. TYPHDASHING. I'll probably mangle the next level 3 ratatta that steps out from the tall grass in front of me with my bare hands if I can't get an answer. Somebody please answer me because this is REALLY starting to piss me off.
PokemonMasterIRL
Smash Master
Only like me Toby, and Typh know what Typh dashing is, oh and like all of so cal.
So i just played vs a lvl9 cpu bowser on delfino plaza.
Ibysaur caught him in bulletseed at 0% and he was almost out, the stage changes and he starts to move down the seed stream. hitting him for over 80%. Granted with SDI this isn't a realistic number, we should take advantage of this. It was like an elevator of bullsh*tseed.
Ibysaur caught him in bulletseed at 0% and he was almost out, the stage changes and he starts to move down the seed stream. hitting him for over 80%. Granted with SDI this isn't a realistic number, we should take advantage of this. It was like an elevator of bullsh*tseed.
PokemonMasterIRL
Smash Master
Yes. Yes it is. Off to do more testing with other stages.
Btw. Very nice Zard. Decent Squirtle. Ivy needs work. Of course, that might be the matchup. Marth trims her hedges pretty hard.
Also, anyone tried stutter stepping Ivy's fsmash? Gives her a little step back instead of forward. Nerfs the range of fsmash, but works as a safer way of landing it. Retreating fsmash could have a lot of potential.
Btw. Very nice Zard. Decent Squirtle. Ivy needs work. Of course, that might be the matchup. Marth trims her hedges pretty hard.
Also, anyone tried stutter stepping Ivy's fsmash? Gives her a little step back instead of forward. Nerfs the range of fsmash, but works as a safer way of landing it. Retreating fsmash could have a lot of potential.
Luigi player
Smash Master
Um, how do you do this? If I flack my controlstick right and left I just dashdance and end up in my dash animation... >_>
Luigi player
Smash Master
I just run to the other direction...?
I do it a lot. It's the best way to land it, really, as it helps you get out of the way of an attack while still maintaining excellent range on your attack.
I'm a genius.
Luigi player
Smash Master
Yeah I try it but it doesn't work... >.<
If I press the 2nd direction too fast I just dash again, if I don't press too fast I'll perform the full dash...
T-block
B2B TST
Just keep practising...if you dash again it probably means you're hitting the control stick too far. You want to return it to just past neutral to pivot.
The bulletseed thing is pretty cool, while I never plan it like that, it is pretty sweet to have someone almost free of your bulletseed and the stage forcing them back down into it. Delfino is my favorite stage for all my mains. Does this work on halberd perhaps?
Is more knockback/hitlag= more SDI per hit? Because SDIing out of bulletseed seems alot tougher than getting a very obvious teleport when you SDI a spike or smash.
Is more knockback/hitlag= more SDI per hit? Because SDIing out of bulletseed seems alot tougher than getting a very obvious teleport when you SDI a spike or smash.
Retro Gaming
Black and White Thinking
Yes, yes it does. Also works on that platform on the right side of Frigate Orpheon I, but why you would be standing on that side of the stage with Ivysaur is beyond me.
T-block
B2B TST
It works on Rainbow Cruise too. I had a lulz Bullet Seed KO against a Snake there once
Did that to a DK on Castle Seige. Went from the underground transformation to the castle one, and we were on the left hand side. He'd accedentally used up his midair jump, and so i made it bac and he didn't XD
T-block
B2B TST
Heh...mine was BS KO off the top though ;D The stage was moving down towards the ship and I had him in the stream, and it like pushed him right on top of the bulb in the middle of the stream. Then when it ended he was so preoccupied with keeping up with the stage I just hit B again and the pop-up killed him. I survived that too lol
Bestiarius
Smash Ace
Wasn't that in your combo vid, t-block, or something like that?
T-block
B2B TST
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Bestiarius
Smash Ace
Yeah, but only scrubs get vinewhip stage spiked.
Dark Ryu
Smash Ace
It's true. Doesn't mean you shouldn't go for it if you are already going to die though.
PokemonMasterIRL
Smash Master
Hi Dark Ryu, I ran your pool at Genesis!!
I was the Jigs that Camped you, then Sded at like 40% under Smashville.
I was the Jigs that Camped you, then Sded at like 40% under Smashville.
CoonTail
Smash Lord
Eh I like this concept but honestly if you mindgame them and wait for a sec you have an oppourtunity to tether the edge. Sadly enough people dont realize Ivy has the longest tether in the game.
Dark Ryu
Smash Ace
I agree with you Ice **** but that is only when the players don't know the Ivy matchup. Once playing with people who are experienced in the matchup and if for some reason you do end up in that situation, the player will know how long they should stay until letting go of the edge.
Also whats up dude! haha I think I remember your name as pokemonmaster or something like that XD Anyways yeah those games were pretty tight! Didn't expect you to SD at such low percent lol.
Also whats up dude! haha I think I remember your name as pokemonmaster or something like that XD Anyways yeah those games were pretty tight! Didn't expect you to SD at such low percent lol.
CoonTail
Smash Lord
I deff agree man but then again that same argument applies for stage spiking them with the Vine whip so either way we both know its a horrid situation its jus a matter of whether your opp is quick to assume the gimp or slow to get off the edge. Either way both scenarios if ending positive result in Ivy looking better which is always a good thing lol
Blitzmidfielder
Smash Journeyman
Gentlemen, was Dash Pivot Fsmash ever discussed?
Blitzmidfielder
Smash Journeyman
Never mind. Stutter-stepped works much better.
CoonTail
Smash Lord
Studder stepped everything is better with PT for some reason its so **** funny. I guess pokemon love having twitchy feet ****ing IV's
Zigsta
Disney Film Director
PT's ability is Quick Feet.
CoonTail
Smash Lord
If only instead PTs real ability is more like slow start reversed LOL ohhhh stamina how much you cripple our character
Squirtles abilty in the games is Torrent.
Ivysaur's is Overgrow.
Charizard's is Blaze.
These abilities are supposed to give the pokemon's same type attack a 1.5x bonus.
Instead, Sakurai thought it'd be smarter to make them do the exact opposite, but lucario can have it.
Sakurai used Nasty Plot.
Ivysaur's is Overgrow.
Charizard's is Blaze.
These abilities are supposed to give the pokemon's same type attack a 1.5x bonus.
Instead, Sakurai thought it'd be smarter to make them do the exact opposite, but lucario can have it.
Sakurai used Nasty Plot.
Bestiarius
Smash Ace
Beast used Future Sight. Sakurai fainted in a few years just before he could ruin the next Super Smash Bros. game!
Bestiarius
Smash Ace
It's about as great a matchup as Ivy vs. God.