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That article assumes the content is being modified for profit... PM is free because a massive group of people formed a team dedicated to creating something absolutely incredible for this community, they work insanely hard on nothing but their love for smash. Nobody is asking you to like it, but at least pretend to respect people willing to devote literally hundreds, if not thousands of hours, to this community.
It doesn't indicate that at all. JC... are you serious right now?
um...no. Why would I waste my time reading about derivative work law when I JUST posted an example where fair use was ruled for game modding? Court rulings almost always overrule any written laws that you could find, and set a precedent for future rulings.. (I could list sources here, but that would probably swing a bit political for this board)
Better link that to OC Remix, skyrim nexus, and to every fan-fic writer ever then. I'm sure they will want to know of all their impending lawsuits, have a good one lol...
Did I say permanently? Because neither Game Genie nor P:M alter the game permanently, but they do use code alterations. Just temporary ones, which si the reason we can go back to playing the normal game at absolutely anytime, as I clearly stated.
Ah, sorry bout that Fenrir. You're right. Let's just ignore the delusional "person".
Just give up dude. You lose. Nobody is going to go ever see any negative action for creating, downloading, or playing Project: M. I'm sorry that it's existence rustles your jimmies, now get over it.
And in the end the mod fell apart because at the end of the day if you don't like street fighter for you can just go play 3rd strike. Same thing with Marvel 3. If you don't like it then just go play Marvel 2. But to respond to the original question if this post the brawl style of gameplay is not bad at all. As explained before the gameplay has evolved since 2008 and its not a " I hit you once and run away" issue. The funny thing to me is: Why aren't we discussing the issues wrong with Melee? Why aren't we focusing on the fact that characters like Fox and Falco are broken? Why are we not focusing on how melee 2012 Apex grand finals moved slower than molasses? Why are we not focusing on the fact that there are characters who have useless moves (Mewtwo. and yes I know who Taj is) and characters do moves that hurt themselves (Pichu)?
You started with other fighting game communities don't mod their games......even though they do. You went on to say these mods failed to pick up steam because they aren't distinct enough from the games they're trying to emulate..... PM did not fail. Moving on.
Melee was an engaging game the moment I put it in. Also it's not as if brawls defensive metagame was shifted by a discovery that made passive play less broken. They were forced to implement a ledge grab rule. The difference between brawl then and now is a much longer list of things they have to ban to keep the tourney running.
They're less broken then MK.
Because it was still faster than brawl.
Do you complain about Dan being the worst street fighter character as well?
.....No.
Worst thing about the melee community is how we handled brawl. We're actually one of the more accepting communities around. That goes for people, not bad games.
You do realize that it's Melee players who invented the concept of banning items and stages, right ?
QFT. And I don't think you understand just how true this is.
They wouldn't be able to if they had to cater to multiple audiences like Sakurai has to. The jobs simply don't compare. They are listening to a very, very small amount of people, so small in fact that it doesn't even please the whole competitive Smash community.
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A likely additional reason why they didn't bother finishing them was because there would be too small of a scene to make it worth making. When you've got sponsors involved with the FGC, this makes doing full fledged gameplay mods an impossibility due to the legal implications of a sponsored player seriously playing the mod.
Sakurai never said he hated competitive Smash, just that he isn't catering to the competitive crowd. He isn't catering to the casual crowd 100% either.
I think it's fair to make a distinction between banning an items and instituting a ledge grab limit.
I wished it actually worked. Like I said earlier, apex 2013 was the first actual tournament he ever won. He hasn't won one since. Not to mention he still ops to play defensive when he has access to armor pieces. He has an aggressive playstyle only in comparison to the optimal defensive play that permeates brawl.
Sakurai listens to nobody. When faced with all anti brawl sentiment that the smash 4 trailers rekindled, he had to make the claim that the people who were pleased with brawl were both less vocal and out numbered the fans who were disappointed. It's plausible, but I'm apprehensive of believing this. You could say the same thing about superman 64 and would work just as well. Not to mention the casuals I know prefer PM for having superior game feel.
Are you actually going to base your opinions off of how people outside the community receive the game? You aren't going to even look at how the game function on its own? Well, your preference for brawl is starting to make sense
Smash, as far as I know, has never had sponsors so the lack of sponsors is completely irrelevant to Smash.
Wobbling is not banned.
How so ? I fail to see a difference. They are both midly arbitrary, and extremely necessary.
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Are you still trying to make an objective statement that involves fun and/or tastes ? If it's a contest to see what smashers want Smash4 to be, spoiler alert : smashers aren't a cohesive group with only one opinion. Spoiler alert 2 : none of these opinions matter to Nintendo.
I'm not blaming them for it. Which is why I expect them, in return, to not blame us for the very same thing.
We don't need them, but we do want them. That's unfortunate, but it is actually a relevant point he's brought up.
You said it yourself. They are all tacked on to maintain MK's legality. You definitely have a point. Shouldn't my assessment of brawl should be based on the ruleset they use? In the end I wouldn't want anybody to judge melee's competitive viability based on match on hyrule. Got me there.
You've listed a hand full of players that have achieved success and you want their performances to be indicative for entire metagame? I believe that these player win despite their aggressive play styles ", not because of them. I'd also like to know how any of this relates to my statement that melee has a greater amount of viable playstyles. You've convinced that brawl has more than one, but I don't think it has more than melee.
I was speaking in general terms of course. It's a bit easier to appreciate melee from a spectator's point of view because of the faster pace and how often momentum swings. I know that some prefer to watch brawl, but what I'm getting at is that they're the minority.
I'd go as far as to say that Melee Sheik, Fox, and CF each have more viable playstyles than brawl has total. ridiculous statement, I know, but I think it might actually be true.
I'd rather play with bobombs on high than loosing the match because somebody managed to have the first hit, then went to the ledge, and then had 8 minutes of uninterrupted invincibility frames. Maybe that's just me though.
No items. Metaknight only. Icicle Mountain? Man that's weird.
The reason why you don't see higher quality mods in other parts of the FGC is simply because there isn't enough information and interest. Most of the SF community would love it if someone like Danatarion (fun fact, he's like the head SF4 modder too!) got the programmers and top players together and made a ST/3S spiritual successor using the SF4 engine and 40ish character cast.
The players would love it, but the companies would not. Try running modded games on Xbox and PS3 and see what happens.
And that, my friends, is why Call of Duty is never going to change. Because everyone who wants it to change aren't going to buy a CoD game regardless.
There is such thing as a "majority opinion," but my money's on "the majority of players will be too busy being awestruck playing as Mega Man and laughing maniacally at the lack of Tripping to give a flying crap at the Melee Fanboys screaming in rage at the game's Single-Player."
Tell me, what other reasons are there to detest Project M? I want to know so I can add them to my list of "Excuses being made not to play P:M."
The elitism is strong with this one.Black Mantis said:
Hypothetically speaking if Smash 4 is worse than Brawl... a lot of the hardcore crowd with just stick with Brawl. Just saying.
