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Inferno's Decarde, The Bowser Video & Critique Thread

Bahamut777

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All you need to do in Bowser dittos is space Klaw and breathe Fire. How hard is that? lol
 
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I'm taking a long time to make more comments on the videos. There are two reasons, the main one being the forum going down every 5 seconds, the other reason is that I couldn't find anything that stood out to be that wrong in Godzilla's strategy His execution could be improved but it's pretty good. I also think Fox could've played a lot "gayer" once he had taken the lead, maybe then people would see he shouldn't be low tier, lol.

I have some things to talk about:
- I think you could go for a ledge hug against Fox when he is recovering and punish his recovery lag with a FAir (refresh ledge invincibility frames by dropping and upB'ing)
- Maybe not challenge Fox head on in the air so much, can't even remember if that was a real problem
- I think you can SDI Fox's rising FAir - meaning when the Fox is double-jumping and FAir'ing at the same time - downward and escape. But I'm not completely sure.
 
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Tnx for the tips flayl.
actually, these low tier foxxes were hard in the torny, I dont agree fox is a low tier, but, well...
most of the players did play with fox this camp, a samus here, a ganon there, some bowsers, but mainly foxxes.

it was one of my first experiences agains foxxes, so I didn't know about the Fair priority, the releases that work, how to EG(also im bad on the edge when it comes to fast ledgehogs, need to improve this) and the Dair>Utilt fox have that is hard to upb when u dont know the right time and also clash with the fortress sometimes.
I'll try to get out the fair with smash DIs on the next time.
also, I think i messed up in the counterpick, norfair.
I didn't knew the lasers fade when they run a certain distance, I learned in after the final match >.<
also, fox fair was giving a lot of trouble on norfair, it was winning the klaw most of the time.

In the end, I realized I should've picked japes >.<

srry about bad english.
 
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Fox is odd.

His dair will only combo when it's fresh. If it stales even a bit, you can shield and punish it.
 
Vex Kasrani

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Godzillabr said:
Tnx for the tips flayl.
actually, these low tier foxxes were hard in the torny, I dont agree fox is a low tier, but, well...
most of the players did play with fox this camp, a samus here, a ganon there, some bowsers, but mainly foxxes.

it was one of my first experiences agains foxxes, so I didn't know about the Fair priority, the releases that work, how to EG(also im bad on the edge when it comes to fast ledgehogs, need to improve this) and the Dair>Utilt fox have that is hard to upb when u dont know the right time and also clash with the fortress sometimes.
I'll try to get out the fair with smash DIs on the next time.
also, I think i messed up in the counterpick, norfair.
I didn't knew the lasers fade when they run a certain distance, I learned in after the final match >.<
also, fox fair was giving a lot of trouble on norfair, it was winning the klaw most of the time.

In the end, I realized I should've picked japes >.<

srry about bad english.
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Stop using Klaw so predictably right above fox, you got punished with upsmash multiple times.
 
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Don't pick Japes against Fox, seriously. KingKong can also tell you that's a bad idea, from first hand experience.

Delfino seems like the best counterpick IMO, use uneven terrain to counter his camping and it messes with his recovery.
 
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dont pick japes seriously, youll get camped to death. Usually I use rc against fox, but almost all the players in my area ban that stage against me now *sigh*

In rc fox cant camp well, and you can easily predict his movement due to the stage moving. Punish his sideB and be patient and it will not be hard.
 
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fox don't have representants in brazil, on the other hand, wolf, olimar and peach are very well represented.
 
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I must say, I saw one of Ixis' battles against Calzorz's Captain Falcon on Battlefield.

That Klawdrop kill caught my eye.

On a lesser note, I have ~5 more weeks until school ends. yay.
 
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Limit129 said:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KBa6S62yT0Q#t=1m49s

oh, I'm just a sophomore in high school. I still have a long way to go.

I just go to the Hotchkiss School [boarding school in northwest CT] and it ends soon. I'm hyped because I can Brawl again.
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I really don't understand the point of using fair in that situation other then being flashy, bair would have done the same thing.
 
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Klaw couldn't hit him, it gets canceled when you cross platforms. Can't klaw after crossing the platform either, 17 frame start-up.
 
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That's what I was talking about in the second part of my post, you don't have enough time for the hitbox to come out.
 
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So...anyway, the bottom line was that I was impressed by the kill. I've actually never thought of doing that until the day before yesterday.

Even though the move was impractical, I liked his quick thinking and it worked to his advantage, so props?
 
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