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Kyu Puff

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If an IC player wins the game with 4 stocks and 0%, but Nana got hit a few times, what would it officially be called? Is it a jv 5? Or not because technically you took damage? jv 4.5 stock?
 

slartibartfast42

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If an Ice Climbers player's Nana dies on the last stock, but then Popo finishes off the opponent for a win, does it only count as a half win because the ice climbers half-lost their last stock? No. Popo is all that matters, I would consider that a full JV5.
 

MT_

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Really? I would disagree. Every time you lose a stock, both Popo and Nana are refreshed in a sense. If Nana is hit, then she's no longer fresh (which is something that you regain as part of losing a stock). I thought JV was about beating your opponent when your stock is completely fresh and untouched. If Nana is hit, then part of your stock wouldn't be fresh anymore, would it?

Meh. Important question.
 

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when nana gets hit, no percent is taken, so i feel like its a legit JV5 or JVwhatever.

i feel like if someone tried to say it wasn't its just a john cause getting JV5'd is probably humiliating.
 

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I was thinking about this a few days ago. I wouldn't count it as a JV because the idea of a JV is that your stock is fresh and untouched. You can check whether Nana got hit by looking at the opponent's damage given at the end of the match.

EDIT: MT basically covered it. He even said "fresh and untouched" lol. Man everyone's stealing my ideas before I say them, don't you hate when that happens? :p
 

KAOSTAR

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I was thinking about this a few days ago. I wouldn't count it as a JV because the idea of a JV is that your stock is fresh and untouched. You can check whether Nana got hit by looking at the opponent's damage given at the end of the match.

EDIT: MT basically covered it. He even said "fresh and untouched" lol. Man everyone's stealing my ideas before I say them, don't you hate when that happens? :p
You can "do" damage to shy guys and the eggz on Brinstar I think. As far as Im concerned Popo @ 0% with 4 stocks equals JV5. If they are both at 0% you might as well call that a 5 stock.

I see no reason to try and cheapen this event solely because you are too much of a ***** to admit you got *****.

If Nana was dead then it becomes a JV5 again lol? Mad gay.

By some definitions ppl will say
1 lasers dont count
2 phantoms dont count
3 taking self damage aka pichu or offstage **** doesnt count.
 

MT_

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@john! - good to see someone is following my train of thought LOL.

Lol. Why are you guys assuming that those of us who think Nana getting hit cancels a JV are just trying to john/cheapen the event? I wasn't even thinking about something like that when I made my post. If someone JV4/5'd me with a hurt Nana I'd still know I got ***** regardless if I personally consider it a JV4 or JV5 or whatever.

And to be able to JV4/5 someone with the condition that Nana hasn't been hurt just glorifies the event should it occur anyways.
 

KAOSTAR

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Nothing against you MT, just I guarantee the IC player is gonna be like "WHOOO!! ***** get dome, get at me! JV5 Stock GET *****!!! WHERe are YOU AT!?!?"

Then you'll be like na, na I hit Nana lol its only a JV4.....Then he proceeds to punch you in the face.

Im just lookin out for you man.

@Xand some ****-whats JVN5? Does the "N" mean Nana or something
 

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what happens when a Pichu ztd someones, but damages itself. Does it still count as a ztd?
 

KAOSTAR

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what happens when a Pichu ztd someones, but damages itself. Does it still count as a ztd?
yes in terms of ****ing somebody up. they didn't damage or hit you so its fair to say that in terms of a combo or good offense.

no, when speaking tactically. something like im down 1 to 2 stocks. you are at 57 and the opportunities is at 0. you need to ztd in order to be in a position to win. so can't afford any damage.

mu opinion on it. probably doesn't count at all lol
 

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You can "do" damage to shy guys and the eggz on Brinstar I think. As far as Im concerned Popo @ 0% with 4 stocks equals JV5. If they are both at 0% you might as well call that a 5 stock.

I see no reason to try and cheapen this event solely because you are too much of a ***** to admit you got *****.

If Nana was dead then it becomes a JV5 again lol? Mad gay.

By some definitions ppl will say
1 lasers dont count
2 phantoms dont count
3 taking self damage aka pichu or offstage **** doesnt count.
since when does brinstar have ****ing eggz kline
spherical organic material =/= eggz

what the ****

owait nvm =[
 
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