Ike

[Kef]

I was thinking it would look weird having three blue-haired swordsman from the same franchise when talking about Marth, Ike, and Chrom in the same game. Then I realized there's characters like Mario, Luigi, and Wario that look similar (maybe even Fox, Falco, and Wolf?).

Ike was my most requested character for Brawl, so I want him to stay. If he HAS to be replaced, I honestly wouldn't mind him being replaced by Chrom or another awesome FE character. I wish Lyn or Lucina could get in the game, having a female swordsman would be pretty cool for the game.

 

[jaytalks]

I think Awakening has risen the series to the point where it can have three reps in the next smash. And if that's the case, that definitely increases Ike's chances.

 

[Daniee]

I'm pretty optimistic about Ike returning. He's always seemed like one of the most popular Brawl newcomers to me and he has his very own "thing" that sets him apart from the rest of the cast.
I'd be pretty darn upset if he didn't. I like a lot of characters in Smash but he's the only one I have any real attachment to. He's one of those characters where it feels like he was put in the game just for me.

I think Awakening has risen the series to the point where it can have three reps in the next smash. And if that's the case, that definitely increases Ike's chances.

Roy was going to be in Brawl at one point so Sakurai clearly didn't think that three FE characters is too much even then.

But even if there's only room for two FE characters, I honestly feel that they'll just go with Marth and Ike again.

 

[HarryTheChin]

Chrom has better chances IMO.

 

[Deleted member]

Chrom has better chances IMO.

I don't see why Marth, Ike and Chrom and/or Roy can't co-exist. Fire Emblem was planned to have three characters in Brawl. With the roster going to be larger than the last game, there's no reason why we can't have three Fire Emblem characters this time around.

 

[xBlitz]

Ike is so ****ing sexy. And he should use axes in his moveset somehow.

If you love Fire Emblem as much as I do, his side B should be just like the Link's: Hand Axe/Short Axe/Tomahawk :D

If not, all I want from Ike if he returns, is Radiant Dawn Vanguard costume, faster tilts, and a better quick draw (like Project M)

As someone who has played all the FE games, Ike is my absolute favourite Lord, let alone character of the series. Only other person I'd like to see, although not possible, would be Eltshan (Eldigan as of Awakening translation), but off of his horse

 

[xBlitz]

I'd have his B Across move replaced with a hand axe. Also Ragnell can attack from range with a sword beam like attack, so I'd like to see that incorporated into his moveset somehow too.

My God, we think a like XD

I'd personally like to see the ranged attack from Ragnell, just because it fits in with him using his unique sword throughout, although hand axe would be a nice slow boomerang effect with potential knockback... Oh the possibilities <3

 

[jaytalks]

made an Ike GBA style sprite.
Add: I drew it from scratch. I just want to point out that how beautiful the GBA sprites are in their simplicity. It is really hard style to replicate.

 

[Diddy Kong]

You could probably try to base Ike of a Mercenary unit, with some elements from GBA Heroes. I've seen some spirte works that looked quite good.

Side B or even Neutral B could infact indeed be a Hand-Axe / Tomahawk projectile like Link's Boomerang. And it could very well happen, if Link's Boomerang where tomget replaced. Perhaps by something Skyward Sword related, as the Skyward Strike akamthe sword beam. Speaking of, that could also still work as a Neutral B. But I like Hand-Axes if only to represent the Weapon Triangle a bit more. Axe-related Smash attacks could also work. I mean, Ragnell on tilts already hits as hard as most character's Smash attacks anyway.

Anyways, Ike is a complete badass. And with Olimar returning and not some obsure Pikmin 3 character, I have a little more hope for the Hero of Blue Flames.

 

[MasterOfKnees]

I personally think Ike is fine as he is, I like him as a character which only has melee attacks and is rather helpless from a distance, but if you even dare to get near him, or he gets near you, you'll have to be extremely careful. If anything they should make Aether usable after using side-B, that's always been a major handicap, and Luigi can even use his up-B after his side-B, so I see no reason to handicap Ike like that.

And yeah, Olimar makes me a bit less concerned about Ike, though I'm still a bit afraid of his chances.

 

[Diddy Kong]

The Hand Axe or Laser Attack from Ragnell could all be really slow projectiles though.

 

[xBlitz]

I personally think Ike is fine as he is, I like him as a character which only has melee attacks and is rather helpless from a distance, but if you even dare to get near him, or he gets near you, you'll have to be extremely careful. If anything they should make Aether usable after using side-B, that's always been a major handicap, and Luigi can even use his up-B after his side-B, so I see no reason to handicap Ike like that.

And yeah, Olimar makes me a bit less concerned about Ike, though I'm still a bit afraid of his chances.

I like that he doesn't have projectiles, in a certain sense it makes him seem overall like the kind of character who goes in hardcore and kills with such ferocity and power, yet... I still think if his tilts, as strong as they are, were sped up, would make him rise in the tier list simply because he can get quicker punishes, but if SSB4 has techniques like wavedashing, he could easily wavedash forward into an ftilt, for example, as a way to move in for a punish/kill move, while not having huge lag time like his extremely powerful fmash (that noobs QQ about), while still being a fast enough ftilt that it isn't just a couple frames behind his twice as strong previously mentioned fsmash. If SSB4 has melee air dodge, melee physics and they speed up JUST Ike's tilts, you would see him rise from the bottom of low mid tier all the way to mid high (basically 23rd to maybe 15 or so). Something as simple as speeding his tilts up would make his punish game far greater, and his ability to put out a strong kill move like ftilt at 80% a far greater option, and it would kill a lot easier than trying to land an fsmash at 60% or higher.

 

[Oddyesy]

I personally think Ike is fine as he is, I like him as a character which only has melee attacks and is rather helpless from a distance, but if you even dare to get near him, or he gets near you, you'll have to be extremely careful. If anything they should make Aether usable after using side-B, that's always been a major handicap, and Luigi can even use his up-B after his side-B, so I see no reason to handicap Ike like that.

And yeah, Olimar makes me a bit less concerned about Ike, though I'm still a bit afraid of his chances.

In Brawl- they fixed that. But I really do like Ike the way he is, it doesn't seem like he'd fit using any projectile.

I like that he doesn't have projectiles, in a certain sense it makes him seem overall like the kind of character who goes in hardcore and kills with such ferocity and power, yet... I still think if his tilts, as strong as they are, were sped up, would make him rise in the tier list simply because he can get quicker punishes, but if SSB4 has techniques like wavedashing, he could easily wavedash forward into an ftilt, for example, as a way to move in for a punish/kill move, while not having huge lag time like his extremely powerful fmash (that noobs QQ about), while still being a fast enough ftilt that it isn't just a couple frames behind his twice as strong previously mentioned fsmash. If SSB4 has melee air dodge, melee physics and they speed up JUST Ike's tilts, you would see him rise from the bottom of low mid tier all the way to mid high (basically 23rd to maybe 15 or so). Something as simple as speeding his tilts up would make his punish game far greater, and his ability to put out a strong kill move like ftilt at 80% a far greater option, and it would kill a lot easier than trying to land an fsmash at 60% or higher.

Speeding up his tilts would make him so awesome, but I'm curious as to how much you think they should be sped up.

 

[xBlitz]

In Brawl- they fixed that. But I really do like Ike the way he is, it doesn't seem like he'd fit using any projectile.




Speeding up his tilts would make him so awesome, but I'm curious as to how much you think they should be sped up.

If you've seen or played PM Ike, his tilts are perfect. Up and Forward are sped up in start up and ending lag, making the ftilt a great option to kill when an Fsmash is just too slow, and the uptilt is great for early combos. Dtilt spike was nerfed, and also made into a combo starter, kind of like uptilt, and it makes him easily third best, only next to Fox and Falco. I like my favourite characters to be great, but balanced. Ike is 23rd on tier list, but I love him because I'm an FE fan boy (loved PoR), and because with skill he is a formidable character. If he was easy mode like MK, it wouldn't feel right.

 

[Oddyesy]

If you've seen or played PM Ike, his tilts are perfect. Up and Forward are sped up in start up and ending lag, making the ftilt a great option to kill when an Fsmash is just too slow, and the uptilt is great for early combos. Dtilt spike was nerfed, and also made into a combo starter, kind of like uptilt, and it makes him easily third best, only next to Fox and Falco. I like my favourite characters to be great, but balanced. Ike is 23rd on tier list, but I love him because I'm an FE fan boy (loved PoR), and because with skill he is a formidable character. If he was easy mode like MK, it wouldn't feel right.

OH MY GOD I TRIED TO GET PROJECT M TO WORK ON RIIVOLUTION BUT I KEEP GETTING A BLACK SCREEN

Oh, but I've been biased towards FE since Melee since I absolutely loved Roy, since he was so much better than Marth. I guess Ike replaced him in some way. It could change, though, if Isaac makes it into Sm4sh.

 

[MasterOfKnees]

In Brawl- they fixed that. But I really do like Ike the way he is, it doesn't seem like he'd fit using any projectile.

I pretty much got the idea from Balanced Brawl which also has it. Seems like the hacking guys agree with us.

 

[FlareHabanero]

Oh, but I've been biased towards FE since Melee since I absolutely loved Roy, since he was so much better than Marth.

There is a lot of wrong with this statement that it's not even funny.

 

[Oddyesy]

There is a lot of wrong with this statement that it's not even funny.

There is a lot wrong with me in general.

 

[extremechiton]

plz bring ike back!! and also add chrom definitly.

 

[Ryan.]

I really liked Ike in Brawl. He was such a strong character, despite his speed, and his up special I loved. I'm hoping he's in the next game.

 

[xBlitz]

There is a lot of wrong with this statement that it's not even funny.

Just had to say... Love the profile pic and signature pic (y)

 

[neosam23]

Has anyone played Dissidia Final Fantasy? Just talking about Ike's Hand Axe move, it could be similar to Firion's Axe move where he throws his axe, then the Axe hits, goes past the enemy, then comes back and draws the enemy in. And since Ike is a close fighter, that would make comboing with his melee moves pretty easy. But then he might be overpowered, too. But that's just a suggestion.

 

[Diddy Kong]

It would definitely be interessting, but I can't see it being inplemented. Especially cause it doesn't work that way in Fire Emblem. Otherwise, it would be awesome to have.

 

[neosam23]

Yeah, that's true. I can really see Ike using a Hand Axe as his ranged move, though. Or even the Urvan, that would be nuts. But he never throws the Urvan, so....

But I'm really hoping for a ranged move for Ikey.

 

[Fire Emblemier]

Has anyone played Dissidia Final Fantasy? Just talking about Ike's Hand Axe move, it could be similar to Firion's Axe move where he throws his axe, then the Axe hits, goes past the enemy, then comes back and draws the enemy in. And since Ike is a close fighter, that would make comboing with his melee moves pretty easy. But then he might be overpowered, too. But that's just a suggestion.

Yeah, I play Dissidia, and Firion's my best character because he reminds me of Ike especially the alt. costume for him.

 

[ToothiestAura]

Has anyone played Dissidia Final Fantasy? Just talking about Ike's Hand Axe move, it could be similar to Firion's Axe move where he throws his axe, then the Axe hits, goes past the enemy, then comes back and draws the enemy in. And since Ike is a close fighter, that would make comboing with his melee moves pretty easy. But then he might be overpowered, too. But that's just a suggestion.

If they give him a ranged move, I think it would make more sense for it to be Ragnell's energy wave. An Axe would be weird because he'd have to pull out a different weapon.

 

[FalKoopa]

If they give him a ranged move, I think it would make more sense for it to be Ragnell's energy wave. An Axe would be weird because he'd have to pull out a different weapon.

Link does it all the time and doesn't look odd at all, though.

 

[ToothiestAura]

Link does it all the time and doesn't look odd at all, though.

Well, of course. That's Link's thing. And it does look odd.
I meant it would make more sense for him to use the ranged capabilities of the weapon he already has in his hands then switch to another one.

 

[_R@bid_]

I wish his sword would just get replaced with an axe altogether. He wouldn't play very differently, since he basically wields his sword like an axe anyway, and it would make him stand out much more, look cooler by far, and make much more sense when throwing an axe too.

 

[Diddy Kong]

Ragnell is a lot more iconic than ny Axe he ever used though. I'd be more than down for Urvan being used as a Smash attack, or a new Neutral or Down B.

 

[_R@bid_]

True, but I don't play FE and so don't really care how close he is to his games. I just like the idea of more visual diversity in the roster.

 

[Diddy Kong]

Well, Ike used Swords as his main weapon all through FE9, and 3/4th of FE10. It's very unlikely they'll make a full moveset out of him using axes cause of this.

Which is unfortunate, cause Ike with Axes is the biggest **** ever in Fire Emblem.

 

[Ussi]

Ike should use an axe if they don't give him his ranged attack with ragnell cause that's the only reason to even use ragnell.

But meh iconic weapon is iconic

 

[Diddy Kong]

As long as he doesn't throw the damn Ragnell I'm fine with whatever...

 

[Fire Emblemier]

As long as he doesn't throw the damn Ragnell I'm fine with whatever...

Please don't remind me of Awakening, that sword Priam has is definately not the real Ragnell, 25 uses, no beam, beat up like crazy, please, he probably made that replica himself.

Anyways, I don't care if his costume changed, I like them both, so to me it might be easier keeping the PoR look.

 

[Diddy Kong]

PoR and RD Hero looks are probably the most iconic. Moreso his PoR look perhaps. I would like him to be buff as in Radiant Dawn though. Justifies him being heavier to.

 

[neosam23]

Well, it is possible that he could use both the Energy Wave and the Hand Axe. But there would have to be some differences, like the Energy Wave has more damage, more range, and keeps going after it hits an opponent, while the Hand Axe has more Super Armor breakage, stronger launch power, but must come back after it hits an opponent. But again, that is my suggestion.

I still think it would be epic for the axe to draw them in, though, it would be nuts. Plus, I don't think many characters have a draw in effect, if not none at all.

 

[TeamFlareZakk]

I think having 3 Fire Emblem characters should happen, making these three the Fire Emblem characters on the roster.

Marth
Ike
Chrom

Though I'd like to see Lucina, I don't think she will be added to the roster, but maybe she will take replace Lyn as the Fire Emblem Assist Trophy, and perhaps be a alternate costume for Marth.

 

[Hank Hill]

I like Ike!

Hopefully without that dang ol' sword arm. He looks ridiculous...

Marth, Ike, and Chrom are probably going to be the FE representatives for Smash 4.

 

[Diddy Kong]

I'd be okay with Marth, Ike and Chrom actually.