Ike

[Deleted member]

So who's hoping for an Ike reveal tomorrow or Monday?

*crosses finger*

 

[Sonicguy726]

So who's hoping for an Ike reveal tomorrow or Monday?

*crosses finger*

Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, all of my yes

 

[Ultima777]

Why do you think Ike will be revealed Tomorrow or Monday?

 

[ProjectAngel]

Why do you think Ike will be revealed Tomorrow or Monday?

I believe Fire Emblem's 20th anniversary is this weekend.

 

[Ultima777]

Oh I see. That makes sense. Hopefully both Ike and Chrom can get in.

 

[Sonicguy726]

Why do you think Ike will be revealed Tomorrow or Monday?

What significance do those days have?

 

[Ultima777]

What significance do those days have?

Super Smash Bros. Fan said that Ike might be revealed one of those days. I was asking why. Now I know it is the fire emblem anniversary on the 20th.

 

[Sonicguy726]

Super Smash Bros. Fan said that Ike might be revealed one of those days. I was asking why. Now I know it is the fire emblem anniversary on the 20th.

Oh cool, but they probably won't do anything cause they've missed lots of other anniversary's

 

[Swift Fox]

Actually it's 24th anniversary, on Sunday.

Also Fire Emblem Awakening will have 2nd anniversary on this weekend (Saturday) too!

 

[Swift Fox]

OOPS double post! didn't see that coming

Oh cool, but they probably won't do anything cause they've missed lots of other anniversary's

Peach was revealed on Super Mario Bros.'s 29th anniversary, although the Super Mario 3D World was released later after, it's reserved for Rosalina. We missed Pokemon reveals on Pokemon X and Y's release date, Lucario was revealed later on Brawl's 6th anniversary (maybe Smash Bros 64's 15th anniversary has been fulfilled with that as well), and while the upcoming Pokemon game is Pokemon Battle Trozei, it was reserved for Greninja. Little Mac also revealed on Punch Out!!'s 30th anniversary.

Three characters' reveal based on anniversaries

Has something to do with anniversaries when they don't have any more upcoming new games and/or they're reserved for someone else

 

[Deleted member]

I actually wouldn't be surprised to see Ike get confirmed like... really soon due to anniversaries and such. However, due to how much content we've received, it's very possible that Ike's confirmation is saved until later should he be in the game.

 

[Swift Fox]

Wow, no more game/anniversary left for Ike... he just missed opportunity today! We'll see how he'll make the cut sometime in the future.

 

[ProjectAngel]

There's always Monday.

 

[Swift Fox]

There's always Monday.

No one ever revealed on Monday

 

[Ultima777]

Anyone think Chrom will be revealed tomorrow?

 

[Wyoming]

It's the weekend so no, and even then they won't just reveal a newcomer outside of a Direct all of a sudden.

 

[ProjectAngel]

No one ever revealed on Monday

And then Sakurai slaps Ike in a PotD on Monday just to throw another notion like that in the dumpster.

Always hope.

 

[Priap0s]

I posted this in the Ganondorf-thread aswell:

How would you recieve Ganondorf taking Ike's (if Ike where to be cut) moveset? To me the moveset would make some sense. He'd get to use his sword and have more of a heavy hitting swordman style. Personally I think I'd actually would be okey with it. I would ofcourse prefer a unique moveset for Ganondorf involving both dark magic and sword while keeping Ike. But this is assuming Ike where to be gone and I would atleast want to see his moveset stay in. If so via Ganondorf. Rather than having "Captain Ganondorf" yet again.

For me atleast, the main reason I want Ike to stay is because I really like his moveset, more then I am into his character. Ofcourse there could be another FE-character coming in and taking his moves, but the most possible FE-candidates doesn't really fit his style imo.

 

[Loachy]

I give that proposition a thumbs down. If anything Ganon should be cut before Ike since Ganon is the one they apparently have no ideas for.
No good reason to rid of perfectly unique and acceptable fighter then have some jackass old man with no originality steal his moves. I would be thoroughly upset (for, like, a whole month!)

 

[Wyoming]

Yeah, and besides Ganondorf isn't all about the swords. He also uses magic/powers and that aspect of his character has to be respected as well.

 

[Deleted member]

I posted this in the Ganondorf-thread aswell:

How would you recieve Ganondorf taking Ike's (if Ike where to be cut) moveset? To me the moveset would make some sense. He'd get to use his sword and have more of a heavy hitting swordman style. Personally I think I'd actually would be okey with it. I would ofcourse prefer a unique moveset for Ganondorf involving both dark magic and sword while keeping Ike. But this is assuming Ike where to be gone and I would atleast want to see his moveset stay in. If so via Ganondorf. Rather than having "Captain Ganondorf" yet again.

For me atleast, the main reason I want Ike to stay is because I really like his moveset, more then I am into his character. Ofcourse there could be another FE-character coming in and taking his moves, but the most possible FE-candidates doesn't really fit his style imo.

Please no. How about giving Ganondorf his own move set and keeping Ike?

 

[Vickand]

I dont't think Ike will be revealed this week, I mean, Sakurai revealed five characters less than two weeks ago... Also wouldn't it be awesome getting Ike revealed in Chrom's trailer? Like Charizard with greninja. We could get an awesome sword fight with Marth and Ike, and then Chrom awakens to battle! (Or something like that haha)

 

[Gameboi834]

Yeah, and besides Ganondorf isn't all about the swords. He also uses magic/powers and that aspect of his character has to be respected as well.

Make it half Ike and half Falclone.

 

[Sonicguy726]

I dont't think Ike will be revealed this week, I mean, Sakurai revealed five characters less than two weeks ago... Also wouldn't it be awesome getting Ike revealed in Chrom's trailer? Like Charizard with greninja. We could get an awesome sword fight with Marth and Ike, and then Chrom awakens to battle! (Or something like that haha)

Yes that sounds amazing but tbh I'd prefer the avatar character from awakening but that's just my opinion

 

[Vickand]

Yes that sounds amazing but tbh I'd prefer the avatar character from awakening but that's just my opinion

It would be awesome too, but I don't think we get the Avatar without getting Chrome first... Maybe we can get both (it's unlikely but theres still hope)

 

[Sonicguy726]

It would be awesome too, but I don't think we get the Avatar without getting Chrome first... Maybe we can get both (it's unlikely but theres still hope)

I just think he'd be more unique and that's what sakurai seems to care more about, as evidenced by having rosalina over more important mario characters, the villager over characters like tom nook and greninja over more important pokemon like mewtwo

 

[Priap0s]

Guys...
Ofcourse I too want Ganondorf to get his own moveset more than anything. I said so in my post. This was hyphotetical if Ike was confirmed to be cut. As said, I just really like Ikes moveset. So even if he was removed as a character I'd like to see that stay in the game. I just found it decently fitting for Ganondorf (much more fitting than his current moves. The magic visual effects he has now could just as well be applied to Ikes moves). If I could have anything I want I would keep Ike in and give Ganondorf a sword, combined with magic-based moveset + adding a FE-character that uses a non-sword weapon.


I feel some of you got a bit offended and thought this was my idea of the ideal way or solution. Thats not it at all and I by no means wanted to offend any fellow Ike suporter. I am just personally more fond of his moveset than his character and care more about that staying in than Ike himself grabbing a spot. Maybe that is controversial as well in here though! ^^

 

[Loachy]

I don't think Ike's moves would be all that fitting on Ganon. A lot of Ike's moves are based on the idea of Ragnell being incredibly powerful and heavy, or ideas from Ike's game.
Watching Ganon do Aether, or perform Ike's f-smash or up-smash with his skinny light sword would be a bit awkward.

People who are fond of Ike himself (his appearance, his voice, his crowd cheer, etc.) would be unhappy. Ganon will be made no more unique a character than he is now, and people who enjoy playing Ganon the way he is (whom, believe it or not, there is quite a number of) would be unhappy. Your idea doesn't really fix anything and would only satisfy people who both don't care about Ike and don't like playing as Ganon...

 

[Deleted member]

And, no reveal.

I still think Ike will be back, though.

 

[ProjectAngel]

Guys...
Ofcourse I too want Ganondorf to get his own moveset more than anything. I said so in my post. This was hyphotetical if Ike was confirmed to be cut. As said, I just really like Ikes moveset. So even if he was removed as a character I'd like to see that stay in the game. I just found it decently fitting for Ganondorf (much more fitting than his current moves. The magic visual effects he has now could just as well be applied to Ikes moves). If I could have anything I want I would keep Ike in and give Ganondorf a sword, combined with magic-based moveset + adding a FE-character that uses a non-sword weapon.


I feel some of you got a bit offended and thought this was my idea of the ideal way or solution. Thats not it at all and I by no means wanted to offend any fellow Ike suporter. I am just personally more fond of his moveset than his character and care more about that staying in than Ike himself grabbing a spot. Maybe that is controversial as well in here though! ^^

You would end up taking way a lot of Ganon's potential uniqueness.

 

[Radical Larry]

Ike and Roy need to come back. Who cares about an Awakening character (other than a lot of people)?

 

[Loachy]

There is always the possibility of Ike not being revealed, I guess. There is speculation that Marf is no longer unlockable (I assume because he's had quite some relevance in his series recently). He and Ike could've traded their availability status.

 

[Priap0s]

Your idea doesn't really fix anything and would only satisfy people who both don't care about Ike and don't like playing as Ganon...

I have to admit, I was under the assumptions that that was a large group/the majority of Smash people. It seems I might have underestimated the fan base for Ike as a character and people who like Ganondorfs current moveset (though I think this one is fairly small compared to people who would like to see him changed?).

 

[Zero Suit Wario]

 

[Diddy Kong]

I posted this in the Ganondorf-thread aswell:

How would you recieve Ganondorf taking Ike's (if Ike where to be cut) moveset? To me the moveset would make some sense. He'd get to use his sword and have more of a heavy hitting swordman style. Personally I think I'd actually would be okey with it. I would ofcourse prefer a unique moveset for Ganondorf involving both dark magic and sword while keeping Ike. But this is assuming Ike where to be gone and I would atleast want to see his moveset stay in. If so via Ganondorf. Rather than having "Captain Ganondorf" yet again.

For me atleast, the main reason I want Ike to stay is because I really like his moveset, more then I am into his character. Ofcourse there could be another FE-character coming in and taking his moves, but the most possible FE-candidates doesn't really fit his style imo.

Terrible idea. Ike's moves in Brawl are very much inspired by his animations in Fire Emblem Path of Radiance. It's already bad that Ganondorf takes so much after Captain Falcon, but at least Captain Falcon's moves are completely made up. Ganondorf doing Aether and Quick Draw is just... Cringe worthy.

 

[Priap0s]

...Ganondorf doing Aether and Quick Draw is just... Cringe worthy.

So you would rather see Ikes moveset dissapear if he was cut? Or have his moveset taken over by a FE rep (assuming there will be one)?

Agree to disagree on the last part. Seeing those moves made by Ganondorf would not look weird at all to me. Since he would obviously have different visual effects for the moves. If I was a designer I think giving those moves a 'Ganondorf flair' would be a an easy job (especially the quick draw, just give it the purple flame effects his current falcon kick has and it would be nothing like an FE move anymore. Would look perfectly fitting for a Ganon thing imo ).

 

[Sonicguy726]

So you would rather see Ikes moveset dissapear if he was cut? Or have his moveset taken over by the new FE rep?

Agree to disagree on the last part. Seeing those moves made by Ganondorf would not look weird at all to me. Since he would obviously have different visual effects for the moves. If I was a designer I think giving those moves a 'Ganondorf flair' would be a an easy job (especially the quick draw, just give it the purple flame effects his current falcon kick has and it would be nothing like an FE move anymore. Would look perfectly fitting for a Ganon thing imo ).

If ike's cut I wanna just see the moveset and the character leave as a whole because then I'd just hate the character that took his moveset

 

[Diddy Kong]

So you would rather see Ikes moveset dissapear if he was cut? Or have his moveset taken over by a FE rep (assuming there will be one)?

Agree to disagree on the last part. Seeing those moves made by Ganondorf would not look weird at all to me. Since he would obviously have different visual effects for the moves. If I was a designer I think giving those moves a 'Ganondorf flair' would be a an easy job (especially the quick draw, just give it the purple flame effects his current falcon kick has and it would be nothing like an FE move anymore. Would look perfectly fitting for a Ganon thing imo ).

Fire Emblem always has had two characters. It'll most likely have at least two characters to this time. And to me, Ike is still the most likely. And I bet here, in the Ike thread, people will want this to happen very much. It's no gurantee that Ike will be cut only because Roy was cut from Brawl! Marth and Ike are nothing like each other, and even though being blue haired sword Lords, their style is an amazing contrast. With Toon Link and Sheik returning, I see no reason to cut Ike. His moveset was unique, and he was an extremely popular request for Brawl. Little Mac came from a game that came out 1 year later than Ike's last appearance as a main character... There is just no need for Ike to leave.

However, that aside, let's do assume he's cut then... I wouldn't still want Ike's moveset to be pasted on Ganondorf. Ganondorf doing Aether, Quick Draw and Ike's sword swings from Fire Emblem doesn't work, especially if Ganondorf has so much more to draw from if he'd be using a sword. It could be based on Ike's playstyle, sure thing. But his exact animations just don't work. Chrom, from Fire Emblem could pull it off better. But it isn't exactly a popular idea to begin with. I can tell you! I tried convincing a lot of people that Sheik had to be replaced with Impa in a similar fashion. They didn't like that much. Ask around.

Anyway, am hoping to see Ike return.

 

[Aninymouse]

I posted this in the Ganondorf-thread aswell:

How would you recieve Ganondorf taking Ike's (if Ike where to be cut) moveset? To me the moveset would make some sense. He'd get to use his sword and have more of a heavy hitting swordman style. Personally I think I'd actually would be okey with it. I would ofcourse prefer a unique moveset for Ganondorf involving both dark magic and sword while keeping Ike. But this is assuming Ike where to be gone and I would atleast want to see his moveset stay in. If so via Ganondorf. Rather than having "Captain Ganondorf" yet again.

For me atleast, the main reason I want Ike to stay is because I really like his moveset, more then I am into his character. Ofcourse there could be another FE-character coming in and taking his moves, but the most possible FE-candidates doesn't really fit his style imo.

They would never give Ike's exact moveset to another character, since all his animations are heavily based on animations from the two games he starred in. Just because he's a heavy, strong sword user, doesn't mean that his moveset it compatable with any other heavy, strong sword user.

It'd be like cutting Luigi and giving his exact moves to Waluigi. Think about just how much of a disservice that would be to BOTH Luigi and Waluigi fans! That's what it's like to slap Ike's moves on someone else.

 

[Priap0s]

I see your points. I think you are wrong about one thing though; giving someone Ikes moveset doesn't mean the moves would look the same. They would function the same (hitboxes and such) but the visuals would ofcourse be changed alot to fit the new character. So saying its not possible cause it would be silly to see someone else do a quick draw isn't true. The move would look nothing like quick draw if, for example, Ganondorf had it. He would just need to do whatever fitting charge and leap animation, could look completly different just as long as it would function the same!


Anyways, I think I get the general feelings about this by Ike suporters. Either a) If Ike gets cut I'd rather not see his moveset stay at all. or b) If Ike gets cut and someone takes his moveset, rather it'd be Chrom (personally I find him less fitting for the moveset than ganondorf. This is why I had this idea, cause I felt no one of the highly likely new FE-reps seem to fit Ikes moveset ) or whatever new FE rep is in, than some other character. Mostly everyone, ofcourse, wants Ike to stay in. Thats a given!