If you're a nerd and can't get a woman it's totally your fault.

[jiovanni007]

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Yeah I said it. If you're a nerd and can't get a woman it's totally your fault. Yes we may all be nerds (myself included) but that doesn't mean we can't hope to have an attractive female for a relationship or just to fool around with. I've been to plenty of smash tournaments and from looking around at the people there I can positively identify people that I would probably kick it with outside of smash and people that I would definitely not kick it with outside of smash. The determining factor of who I would kick it with is can they pull women? If that answer is no than we can stick to playing video games together. If the answer is yes, than we can play video games together and maybe hit up a bar or something. Sorry if I sound blunt but some people have it and some don't. The obvious question is why do some people get women but I can't? The answer is simple, do you try?

Women may not be nearly as shallow as men are but they still are to some extent. If you make little effort to impress a woman then don't expect much return for your investment. Its safe to say that most people on SWF are naturally nice people since a lot of times they had to go through life being judged by everyone around them and refused to do the same to others. This helps form a very positive personality. The downside to this is that a lot of nerds can become very reserved socially due to constant tormenting. If you're one of those nerds that wants to get a woman listen carefully because I can make it easy for you.

1. Get a job.
Seriously, women cost money. Personally I'll pay for it and if you're not willing to feel free to hit the back button because the sport of pulling women is not for you. Money is necessary for dates, dates are necessary for relationships. Money is necessary for drinks is bars, drinks in bars are (mostly) necessary for random hook-ups.

2. Take care of your body.
Yes, most smashers are terribly out of shape. Out of shape isn't always defined as fat, but I have seen many smashers who are incredibly skinny but not really in shape. Try working out and getting into shape. Start by jogging, doing push-ups and doing crunches. Once you have a base built then you can move on to more intense workouts. Face it, most women aren't gonna go for the overweight men or the out of shape skinny look. Skinny isn't bad, but you still need to try to get into shape. This is especially important because of the horrid diets most nerds have. If you're not willing to take care of your body then feel free to hit the back button because pulling women is not the sport for you.

3. Look good
Face it, that Las Vegas, Nevada shirt your mom bought you is not even close to flattering. Those busted off brand shoes you have are not gonna impress anyone. You have to dress to impress or you're gonna be passed up just like normal. The main problem is that most nerds can't identify with any sort of style. A good start is to look at people you see in public and emulate the style of people that you think you can identify with. This goes back to making money because honestly my clothes cost a lot of money. But the clothes don't make the man, they only enhance his normal demeanor. To be honest, I'm fly as a pelican. Also don't be afraid to get a good haircut. Due to my job I have to shave my entire face but before this job I kept my sideburns connecting to my goatee and kept it maintained regularly. This is honestly the toughest parts for nerds to adapt to. A lifestyle of finding efficiency creates a logic flaw when it comes to buying expensive clothes or getting fancy haircuts. You have to get past this good logic and embrace flawed logic as you will have to do so a lot in a relationship with a woman. If you're not willing to do this feel free to hit the back button because pulling women is not your sport.

Yes this list does include major lifestyle and thought process adjustments and will be difficult. But you have to look at the other side of the line, the area that you're currently in. The area that is devoid of women and lonely. Sometimes change is necessary to make it to a new goal. If you're not willing to change to I hope that you get lucky and manage to find someone that for some reason falls in love with you despite you not putting forth any effort. If you do take my words to heart, just remember that effort and results are directly proportional to one another in 99% of cases when it comes to women. No effort = no women. Change yourself and make yourself appealing to women. Don't just accept the fact that you are the way you are and hot women have to accept me. It's not likely to happen.

 

[Seagull Joe]

Lol.This dude knows what's up.

 

[Pink Reaper]

The "Get in shape" part of your reasoning is flawed, likely because this is a post more made out of random guessing than actual information, so let me share some information with you. While body fat can in fact be controlled(Diet and exorcise can decrease weight over time/it's possible to increase weight through the normal means, i.e, mcdonalds) actual body shape cant be changed, ever, without extensive surgery to force you to look like something else. If you have a skinny, thin body, that's how you will always look. Weight can be gained but it will mostly hit the stomach area, giving a potbelly look. Pear's will be pears, hourglasses will be hourglasses(as long as weight is properly maintained) and that's just how your body will be. Your body shape is controlled by genetics, not by physical action, so while there are plenty of people who could really use a good work out(you know who you are, ADRIAN) at the end of the day all you'll be doing is controlling your weight.

The other parts that you're wrong about are mostly just cus you're a tool, but that's ok cus you're

 

[Glöwworm]

" I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not" - Kurt Cobain



aaaand i'm outta here!!


woosh!

 

[Browny]

I dont remember ever claiming it was anyone elses fault

 

[INSANE CARZY GUY]

maybe my face would look better if I didn't walk into so many walls. I eat heathlier than most people I know and ride my bike at least 5 miles a day.

 

[jiovanni007]

The "Get in shape" part of your reasoning is flawed, likely because this is a post more made out of random guessing than actual information, so let me share some information with you. While body fat can in fact be controlled(Diet and exorcise can decrease weight over time/it's possible to increase weight through the normal means, i.e, mcdonalds) actual body shape cant be changed, ever, without extensive surgery to force you to look like something else. If you have a skinny, thin body, that's how you will always look. Weight can be gained but it will mostly hit the stomach area, giving a potbelly look. Pear's will be pears, hourglasses will be hourglasses(as long as weight is properly maintained) and that's just how your body will be. Your body shape is controlled by genetics, not by physical action, so while there are plenty of people who could really use a good work out(you know who you are, ADRIAN) at the end of the day all you'll be doing is controlling your weight.

The other parts that you're wrong about are mostly just cus you're a tool, but that's ok cus you're

Unfortunately for your argument I've taken genetics at the college level so i know that body shape while genetic can actually be changed. In the 11th grade (though not at the full level of maturity) I weighed about 145lbs. Safe to say my body style was skinny. Through an increase of protein in my diet and working out I was 185lbs and lean by the end of my freshman year of college. A little hard work can deter the effects of genetics. If you actually took a genetics class you would know that environmental factors have a HUGE effect on how genes are actually expressed. Example being if the major environmental factors on your body include sitting down, eating high fat foods and an all around slothful demeanor than your genes will reflect as much. You may not become a fatty but there is little chance that your body will have any definition. If your environmental factors include 45 minutes of intense cardio 5 days a week in addition to muscle building exercises and a low fat, high protein, and nutritionally balanced diet (except the high protein) then the genes will express themselves differently. In short you've basically been exposed.

As far as me being wrong, most of the statements are generalizations anyway I thought that most people who are supposed to be conducting an intelligent discussion would understand that.

I dont remember ever claiming it was anyone elses fault

Everyone's not on the same thought level as you and like to blame others for their shortcomings.

 

[Tesh]

If women are your only motivation to get a job and maintain a healthy lifestyle, you may have other problems. If you are old enough to be chasing women or going to bars, I don't see why you wouldn't have a job anyway.

 

[Fatmanonice]

As I like to talk about this topic on a fairly regular basis, I naturally have a couple of objections:

A lot of effort =/= success. Truth be told, the men who are the most successful with women are those that learn how to use as little effort as possible. Generally, a woman will be more impressed by a guy who can make her laugh within 5 minutes of meeting her than some guy who worked years to have a nice car. The best guys are the ones that can get her number in a single meeting rather than after knowing her for months and dissecting every conversation they had to know what exactly she likes. As I mentioned in one of my blogs, hard work doesn't always pay off because that's simply how life is. You can try extremelly hard and still fail miseribly. It's what you do and how you go about it that determines your success or failure.

You say that being a nerd absolutely ruins your chances but did you consider that some girls are nerds too? Nerds having girlfriends is far from unusual. You can find women who are just as much as into video games, anime, sci-fi, etc as your average nerd is and it's probably for the best. Why? Because it creates a bridge that the people can actually connect to each other with. How often do you see total opposites go out with each other? How often do you ask a couple what they like and not come up with something big that draws them together? Now that the connection is set, where do you go from there? The problem with some "nerds" is social awkwardness and lack of confidence, not that there's a shortage of women who like pokemon, first person shooters, and Monty Python.

You don't nessecarily need money to impress a girl and dates don't have to cost a dime. I can take a girl to the park or just watch movies at my apartment, for example. Only those who are unimaginative would say that dates are completely impossible without a lot of money. Money is nessecary for relationships? I wasn't aware that the basis of attraction was solely based on how much you carry in your wallet. Having money opens up more possibilities for what you can do but the absence of it by no means completely squashes your chances at having a relationship. Also, if she's in it solely for how much you make, it's probably not going to be that good of a relationship anyways.

Some people can't help being skinny or fat. Some people have gland problems while others have problems with their metabolism. Some people don't have access to all the things that help people stay in shape. Sometimes it's a money issue. Sometimes it's a time issue. Also, being freakishly skinny or fat doesn't doom you to never having a relationship. Maybe a fat guy doesn't need a girl who looks like a super-model to be happy. Maybe it's not impossible for said fat guy to get someone who does. The most basic levels of attraction are determined by how symmetrical you are and what you smell like (particually your phermones). Once you get past that, there are a lot more factors that come into play that range from genetic/racial preferences to personal preferences. Not everyone's alike. Maybe being fat or skinny isn't one of her major hangups and, truth be told, it usually isn't. Most of the time it has to do with the person's personality. If you're abrasive, you'll probably turn people away. If you're a complusive liar, you'll probably turn people away. If you're completely self absorbed, you'll probably turn people away. Trust me, smelling bad or being flat out obnoxious will be more off putting to women than having a spare tire or xylophone-like ribs.

Looking good has much more to do with how you act than how you dress. It's about confidence and if your clothes make you feel more confident then by-God wear those that do. I wear dress clothes on a regular basis but I know for most people that wearing them outside of special events makes them extremelly uncomfortable. What's this about "needing" fancy haircuts? Again, only if they make you feel better about yourself and even then there are no doubt cheaper alternatives.

If anything, it boils down to confidence. Confidence to ask her what she likes and confidence to say what you like. Confidence to be able to walk up to her without wetting yourself explosively and confidence to tell jokes that may be complete misfires but still tell them anyways. Confidence to be able to laugh at yourself and her to a certain degree. Confidence to ask her out despite the possibility of rejection and humilation. Confidence to look like Milhouse from the Simpsons but talk and act like you're James Bond. This is the big key to success with women.

Add in: Pink Reaper is probably referring to body types as in endomorphs, mesomorphs, and ectomorphs which are decided by your genes and are mostly shown by the proportions of your bones in comparison with your other bones. For example, endomorphs have thicker and larger rib cages so they able to support more fat and/or muscle. Because of this, some people do have more or less potential for different weight ranges. For example, it is extremelly unlikely that you'll see an ectomorph that's over 250 pounds. Then there's also weight distribution which is also decided by your genes. Some people get huge guts. Some people get huge butts. Some people have there fat go to their chests and some have it go to their thighs.

 

[Melomaniacal]

ITT: Women are objects/trophies/etc.

 

[Firus]

If women are your only motivation to get a job and maintain a healthy lifestyle, you may have other problems. If you are old enough to be chasing women or going to bars, I don't see why you wouldn't have a job anyway.

This is a good point.

Fatmanonice is also correct; putting in a lot of effort isn't always the solution, and in fact, it's really more about confidence. That's probably a source of the problem for some, I know it would be a source of the problem if I were looking for any relationship at the moment, because, let's face it, I'm awkward as hell.

Having a job is recommended, and presenting yourself well is generally a good idea, but ultimately, if you play your cards right, none of it is necessary if you have enough confidence.

 

[bleyva]

telling a nerd to jog and then dress like a douche doesnt change the fact that he'll still reek of desperation around women. he's just masking who he really is with a thin glaze of polish.

a nerd can walk into a social gathering with a las vegas, nevada shirt and still score women. he just needs to know how to walk, how to make eye contact and to talk with confidence.

hell, i own several shirts with ELMO on them (fan of sesame street, i want people to know it), and yet i still get female attention when i want it. i simply carry myself like i dont give a **** if other guys notice my shirt, and from there it all falls into place. its all confidence, emphasize what you really are and girls will take note and pursue. please stop trying to feed them this **** that acting "fly like a pelican" will do anything.

 

[Fatmanonice]

ITT: Women are objects/trophies/etc.

Yeah, I don't really like how this blog is written in the same fashion as a tutorial on how to play a sport, either. There's not really a human element here as if getting women is the equivalent of running around with a net gun, catching them and then putting them in a pillow case. "You do this, this, and this exactly as I say and you win the game."

Add in: I agree with the guy above me; turning yourself into a prep or metrosexual will not magically get you women.

 

[REL38]

You're reasoning for hanging out with people that are into Smash is rather odd

Mostly cuz I've always treated gaming, social life and dating as seperate aspects in my life, for the most part

I can see times where my social life/gaming and social life/dating have intertwined, but definitely not gaming/dating

 

[Teran]

ITT: Women are objects/trophies/etc.

That's how most teenage males treat them.

I mean how many people want to hook up with a girl they find special, rather than them scouring the lands for a girl purely for the sake of having a girlfriend?

Yeah, I think you'll find the latter option to be more common.

Face it, girls are trophies to boys for a very long time, for some they always are.

 

[Melomaniacal]

That's how most teenage males treat them.

I mean how many people want to hook up with a girl they find special, rather than them scouring the lands for a girl purely for the sake of having a girlfriend?

Yeah, I think you'll find the latter option to be more common.

Face it, girls are trophies to boys for a very long time, for some they always are.

That doesn't make it any more acceptable.

 

[Today]

A woman won't like you for money, looks, and fame. A girl, however will.

A woman wants a man, not a boy.
Just be yourself and have great confidence about yourself. Personally for me, I don't judge by looks or anything like that. If a guy is confident and helpful that's all I need. Of course there are other factors: how well our personalities compliment each other, will we be stable, is there a chance for the future to go out well, etc.
A guy that sits at home in his mother's basement at 30 year's old probably won't be as stable for the future. He doesn't work, or go to school. It's not because he doesn't have money, it's because he's not trying and has no confidence to go out. Or heck, maybe he's just really lazy which = unstableness.
I had a male friend that I use to play MMOs with. He lived with his mother and worked at Walmart. He believed school was a waste of time. He talked back to his mother because he was really big into his MMO to really care about things outside of him. He eats, sleeps, and breathe MMO. He was a nice guy and helpful, however he was just too lazy and didn't care which caused unstableness. I guess you can say he wasn't "bf material." And a relationship with him would not work out. Money in the future would be tough, he would be too much into his MMOs to clean and to clean himself, he may even get snappy if you tell him to at least take a shower once a week, wouldn't want to hang out with the kids, etc.
It's not because he's not "good looking, etc."

What I'm trying to say is be yourself. Don't buy friendship, don't buy a woman. Have confidence and like you for you. I do agree with going out some time. Don't work out for looks, work out for healthiness. It shows you aren't lazy and you care about your body. It shows you try. And that's what women like. However, if you are looking for a girl then go ahead and try and be all the things you've listed.
But in the end a woman wants to settle down with a man, not a boy.

 

[Teran]

That doesn't make it any more acceptable.

True but they grow out of it, just like sucking your thumb and prank calling the local pizza guy.

 

[OFY]

A woman wants to settle down with a man who makes a decent amount of money every 2 weeks LOL.

*Inappropriate link removed*

 

[Today]

I guess that makes me someone different then.
Because I love to shower my guy in gifts, and pay for HIS meal, etc. But most woman I talk to completely agree.

 

[Lythium]

A woman won't like you for money, looks, and fame. A girl, however will.

Pretty much this.

This topic really separates the men from the boys, if you know what I mean.

 

[Teran]

Well to be fair, women are biologically more attracted to a man who gives off the impression of security and power (because that's what a good mate would be in teh wildlandz).

So basically it's not really a woman's fault if she finds a rich man attractive, she wants a secure household, it's common sense.

 

[Today]

Security I can understand. Which is why I gave the example of my friend whom didn't have security as all. However, a woman won't run to a guy with a big nice car and a mansion. As long as he works hard, does his best, and try then that's totally fine. A girl will brag about their boy buying them things/his nice car, and how hot he looks, etc.
As for power? ?

 

[PassWurD]

Pretty much this.

This topic really separates the men from the boys, if you know what I mean.

Don't worry about it, he's fly as a pelican.

 

[Pakman]

I don't want to sound like a tool, but money really does help in meeting girls and getting those elusive first dates. You are not going to make someone fall for you by having lots of cash, but you might not have the opportunity to without it.

Buying a girl flowers, paying for a nice dinner, even just picking up a bill at a bar can help you meet women. Being charming, confident, understanding, and funny is how you build a relationship.

Which guy do you think is going to get the first date, the guy who invites a girl out to a nice dinner or the guy who invites the girl to his apartment to watch a movie?

I am not saying this is true for all cases, but plenty of times money opens the door for a relationship. It is your personality that decides whether or not she kicks you to the curb.

When I started dating my current girlfriend, I had a job and she was a senior in college. Meaning I had money and she was broke. Our first few dates involved going out to dinner, going to a pool hall and buying her flowers which I payed for. After a few dates we started doing things like hiking, playing sports together, and cooking for each other. The beginning of the relationship required some money on my part, but we fell for each other from the "cheap" stuff.

There are plenty of examples of exceptions to this, but I think you will find that more often than not, money helps initiate dates.

 

[thegreatkazoo]

I guess that makes me someone different then.
Because I love to shower my guy in gifts, and pay for HIS meal, etc. But most woman I talk to completely agree.

What, you mean this actually happens?

As if I needed more proof that dating my last ex was a mistake.

 

[Teran]

What, you mean this actually happens?

Nah she's just trying to make guys feel better because she's nice.

A woman that she's describing should be proposed to day one.

 

[Lythium]

That must be why so many guys on SWF have proposed to me.

 

[Teran]

See exactly, it's not like I'm ever wrong.

 

[Lythium]

If that's the case, all the premies need to propose to Frown.

 

[thegreatkazoo]

Nah she's just trying to make guys feel better because she's nice.

A woman that she's describing should be proposed to day one.

Why you gotta crash my hopes like that?

Wait a sec--should I be going to a gay guy for my "how to get a girl" information?

Jury's still out on that. You point is duly noted.

That must be why so many guys on SWF have proposed to me.

Probably so...

See exactly, it's not like I'm ever wrong.

Modesty win.

 

[Teran]

Why you gotta crash my hopes like that?

Wait a sec--should I be going to a gay guy for my "how to get a girl" information?

Jury's still out on that. You point is duly noted.

Absolutely.

Girls tell me all their DEEP DARK SECRETS.

Plus I'm gay so I think liek a grill right lolololololol

 

[thegreatkazoo]

Absolutely.

Girls tell me all their DEEP DARK SECRETS.

Plus I'm gay so I think liek a grill right lolololololol

That post made my day. I laughed a good 15 seconds after reading it.

 

[Pakman]

I dated a ***-hag (I really want to censor dodge this ) and they do tell their gay friends EVERYTHING.

 

[Teran]

They tell us when you're coming up short in bed.

Which is pretty much all the time.

 

[Ganonsburg]

I guess that makes me someone different then.
Because I love to shower my guy in gifts, and pay for HIS meal, etc. But most woman I talk to completely agree.

The woman I'm with is like this too. It's nice when a couple doesn't allow themselves to be thrust into the set mold for dating that society creates, because that's when you really get to know a person. You get to see how much the person cares for you, and to what extent they want to be with you (not sexually).

And while money is nice, not having money also allows you to see how creative your partner is. It's usually the lamest, cheapest things that my friend (yeah, she's my friend to, and it's sad that most couples don't start out as friends because I'm sure they'd be far more successful if they did) gets me that I appreciate the most.

So basically, I disagree with the OP. But it's okay, because he's probably just going into 7th grade and hopefully he'll grow out of it.

 

[Skler]

Is it just me or does the OP sound like the biggest tool in the universe? Like a frat boy who's telling his buddies to pop their collars and pump iron to score some poon.

My personal favorite part was deciding who to hang out with by judging their looks. That was a riot and (hopefully) a joke.

That was the best "clicked because it was on the front page and had a hilarious sounding name" post I've read in a while. Kudos.

Edit: You also call "Pulling women" (is this an MMO and you're getting lady aggro?) a "sport."

You're comic gold.

I do wish you the best of luck with the plethora of STDs, both discovered and undiscovered, that you will attain by taking such a approach to women. It would be a shame if the earth were to lose such wit.

 

[Fatmanonice]

I don't want to sound like a tool, but money really does help in meeting girls and getting those elusive first dates. You are not going to make someone fall for you by having lots of cash, but you might not have the opportunity to without it.

Buying a girl flowers, paying for a nice dinner, even just picking up a bill at a bar can help you meet women. Being charming, confident, understanding, and funny is how you build a relationship.

Which guy do you think is going to get the first date, the guy who invites a girl out to a nice dinner or the guy who invites the girl to his apartment to watch a movie?

I am not saying this is true for all cases, but plenty of times money opens the door for a relationship. It is your personality that decides whether or not she kicks you to the curb.

When I started dating my current girlfriend, I had a job and she was a senior in college. Meaning I had money and she was broke. Our first few dates involved going out to dinner, going to a pool hall and buying her flowers which I payed for. After a few dates we started doing things like hiking, playing sports together, and cooking for each other. The beginning of the relationship required some money on my part, but we fell for each other from the "cheap" stuff.

There are plenty of examples of exceptions to this, but I think you will find that more often than not, money helps initiate dates.

No, I know that it can open up doors but the OP made the suggestion that you absolutely need a lot of money to get into a relationship. Things like going to the movies don't usually cost that much and even going out to dinner is not something that will wreck someone's budget even if they only get paid minimum wage. That's one of the things that I've loved about college, you're given plenty of events to meet new people and you rarely have to spend more than a couple of bucks.

I also disagree with the OPs view of bars. If you ask me, bars are nothing more than money pits and usually not a good place to try to find a meaningful relationship. I don't think I've ever met a bar couple that lasted more than a month. If you're looking for love in a bar, you're probably sick of dating Rosy Palm and she's probably sick of dating the 7 inch high pianist or playing DJ Hero under the bed sheets. The bar scene usually reeks of desperation and I go solely to toss back a few, play pool/darts, and listen to a local band if they're good. Drunk, desperate, and slutty women are usually what you'll get in a bar if you actually run into a woman who's looking for a hook up. As David DeAngelo's basically says, there's no accomplisment in picking up any of those and I agree full heartedly. As he said, they are "easy scores" and nothing meaningful hardly ever comes out of it.

 

[Pakman]

Well I meant a bar as a date. You meet a girl doing whatever and you invite her out for a drink at a bar. Bars are good as an ice breaker. I think a little pool with a couple drinks can be a pretty fun date. It might run you 20-30 bucks, but it is generally a good time.

Drunken hookups tend to be regretted.

Don't go to bars looking for women.

 

[¯\_S.(ツ).L.I.D._/¯]

Is it just me or does the OP sound like the biggest tool in the universe? Like a frat boy who's telling his buddies to pop their collars and pump iron to score some poon.

My personal favorite part was deciding who to hang out with by judging their looks. That was a riot and (hopefully) a joke.

That was the best "clicked because it was on the front page and had a hilarious sounding name" post I've read in a while. Kudos.

Edit: You also call "Pulling women" (is this an MMO and you're getting lady aggro?) a "sport."

You're comic gold.

I do wish you the best of luck with the plethora of STDs, both discovered and undiscovered, that you will attain by taking such a approach to women. It would be a shame if the earth were to lose such wit.

I was thinking the same thing man.

He's probably the kind of guy who walks down the street with his "bros" behind him with his flat billed Yankees hat on backwards, his tight, striped polo, and his sagged jeans.

What a winner.