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I knowww, but... just in case someone says, ZOMG MK HAX!!!
♪ That really shouldn't be a problem since people at a lot of local tourney's know all about Meta Knight's match up, and how to get the upper hand on him since he's at just about every toruney now. ♪
You sir just won a chips ahoy. Which is a cookie btw.
No, he does not. He should be in the same tier as snake but above him.
Sorry but no. MK is truly a level above Snake.
DDD is your anti-snake, MK is your anti-everybody. God.......
♪ What if the person banned's that stage? Then you have to deal with a stage that's not your ace for your character. ♪
♪ Kirby Trio is the way to go since they cover all the hard match up's and stuff. ♪
Go Battlefield. You'll still ****.
Please elaborate.
Thats cool lol. I was a tier ***** who was terrible in melee. But take a look at who I main in Brawl. If I'm a tier *****, its because of what me and others striving to make Jigglypuff did, so I can feel good that I didn't choose her just on rankings.
First of all, Metaknight has no bad matchups. None. Just from the basic standpoint you can see that anyone with a slightly higher level of skill will consistently win, while Snake has multiple bad matchups. You can see from a very basic perspective already that its hard to beat Metaknight because you cannot completely counterpick him, unlike you can much more successfully on Marth, Falco, G&W, Diddy Kong, and R.O.B. as well as others (guess who's a great CP for Diddy Kong and people have almost no matchup experience with, for the answer, look at my sig
). Second, he does very well on most stage layouts because he is very fast and doesn't has long range and high priority, meaning its harder to camp him and although stage does make a difference, its not as a crucial a factor as lets say a Wolf, who does great on FD but screwed over on Lylat Cruise, or similarly a Falco.
This is what people have failed to realize. As of now, unless things change like a part of me hopes they do, he is the character with the most potential of all, hence, top of the tier list. The tier list is not a measure of how "cheap" people are, so being top doesn't mean ZOMG HAX HE'S SO BROKE!! He's just excellent. Thankfully, hate is dying down, and people are finally accepting that he is not cheap.illinialex24 said:
Oh you do not want to know who I used in Melee. Main: Falco. Second: Marth. Third: Jigglypuff. Fourth: Sheik. Then again, I played by rotating the analog and C-stick because me and my friends sucked badly back then...... We really never tried new stuff and so our skill was wasted lol because we played stupidly, very stupidly. We though edgehugging was essentially cheating, edgeguarding was guaranteed suicide, aerial were a perfect setup to get grabbed, had no idea what wavedashing was.... We pressed C and analog lol.
I have actually been arguing this for months and I think that King Dedede is a perfect reason why Metaknight is the last thing we should be worried about. His standing infinites are so cheap and give almost un-overcomable matchups that really hurt a lot of good characters tournament potential. G&W is like a slightly lesser version with his many broken matchups (did I tell you I had to play NoJ at a tournament.... not pretty... I hate bucket breaking). Metaknight is not broken.
I hate to break it to you, but no other character in the game enjoys this. Every other character in the game has disadvantageous match-ups. And I'm not talking about 55-45 either, that doesn't count. But no, mk is not broken.
what does snake have that's worse than 45:55? and still, most people will play more than one character, why go for the neutral matchup when you can play another character that gives you a clear advantage?
I am fully aware of this. It's true. As of this point in time, Meta Knight has nothing like Dedede to Snake. But, I truly believe it won't stay like this forever, though hypothetically it may. Few months ago, Snake was just as "disadvantage-free" as MK. And weaknesses were found. Meta has changed in peoples view from COMPLETELY cheap/broken/unfair/overpowered/hax with no flaws at all to something much more reasonable: still clearly the best, but not as unbeatable as he first seemed, with cracks in his armor emerging. I think some of his neutral match-ups may well swing against him with time, but even if they don't, it is clear that although he is exceptional, he is NOT broken. And finally, the general Smash community is beginning to accept this.SexTornado said:
