Idiots and Music

[CRASHiC]

I just have to ask how it is in any way not respectful for someone to decide not to listen to a certain type of music that they don't enjoy. Sure, it's disrespectful if they start bashing it, but if they don't bash it, and just make the choice to listen to other music, I see no disrespect.

What I mean is not that its disrespectful to dislike a type of music, but that it is disrespectful not to give yourself the proper chance to like music. There is a chance that you may like it, and your ears are just not use to pick apart the sounds because of the different system.

 

[RATED]

I do to have a friend who critique (like it were trash) my kinda soft music( he's metalhead) yeah u know who u are my friend. I kinda gets pissed off , but I neither like his death metal songs , but we don't argue that bad for it , I just ignore his music or listen to it and start joking about it( screaming like death metal songs do) or start moving my head like a weirdo. XD

also my prefer music are "anime music", rap, a bit of metal, rock and techno.

 

[CRASHiC]

For some reason rated, maybe because of the hair do, that you were a metal head xD

 

[RATED]

For some reason rated, maybe because of the hair do, that you were a metal head xD

oh that hair style was like 6 months ago LOL, I am going to change that right NOW.

 

[Fatmanonice]

Agreed; these kinds of people royally piss me off but it annoys me more when it comes to movies, to be honest.

 

[Oracle]

The only thing I hate is when people think mainstream music is awesome and all other music sucks when they don't have enough of a well rounded musical taste to formulate opinions. IE:
"Dude your music sucks. MF doom sucks; Kanye is the best"
"Why?"
"DUUUURRRRRR"
They can't even point out that kanye is closer to hip hop, while MF is closer to rap, making them completely different genres and unable to be compared. Nor can they point out that they like Kanye often has lighter backgrounds with simple structure, as opposed to MF's wide variety of sampling and drub beats.

 

[adumbrodeus]

I gotta partially agree and disagree.

You see, while you can't really say a genre is bad, when you look at music from a technical level, you can say individual songs and artists are bad, at least relative to their contemporaries in terms of the expectations of the genre(s), overall musical expectations, and originality.


Yes, so some music is just bad.

That said, it's pretty hard to tell really unless you're schooled in music theory so random youtube idiots generally are like "my personal opinion is better then yours!1!1!"



As for Lil Wayne, he's a troll, his music is good for dancing to and generally funny to listen to but his solo stuff should be taken like that, as trolling.

When he works with other artists though, he can do some great serious stuff (like My Life).

 

[luke_atyeo]

I liked your plot twist at the end, reminded me of the time my friend used his mobile to call me and ask me if I knew where his mobile was.

you'll just have to get used to the fact susa, that the world is full of idiots like these who try to force their opinions and beliefs on other people, and unfortunatly you cant escape from them, nor do you want to hate on them too much for it otherwise you can beome the very thing you hate, best just to learn to laugh and make light of it.

wow my post went a little deeper then I thought it would.

 

[n88]

In the words of my father, "I don't mind if you go to a Lil Wayne concert, but you'd have to wait until I was dead to get me to go. And even then I might put up a fight." I really don't like some genres of music, but I solve that problem by not listening to that music rather than claiming that it isn't really music at all.

Some artists are just plain bad, but I don't see the need to say that what they're doing isn't really music. It might make me want to rip my ears off, but it's still technically music.

When dealing w/idiots remember that they are impervious to logic as well as most forms of communication.

 

[orange/xd]

I listen to Electro, Trance, and Dubstep.

My music has 'no emotion' and is also 'just random sounds anyone can make'.

 

[SuSa]

I gotta partially agree and disagree.

You see, while you can't really say a genre is bad, when you look at music from a technical level, you can say individual songs and artists are bad, at least relative to their contemporaries in terms of the expectations of the genre(s), overall musical expectations, and originality.


Yes, so some music is just bad.

That said, it's pretty hard to tell really unless you're schooled in music theory so random youtube idiots generally are like "my personal opinion is better then yours!1!1!"



As for Lil Wayne, he's a troll, his music is good for dancing to and generally funny to listen to but his solo stuff should be taken like that, as trolling.

When he works with other artists though, he can do some great serious stuff (like My Life).

Technically bad is still biased. There is simply no such thing as bad music.

Music Theory is not a set of rules, they meant to be broken. It is simply a set of guidelines meant to help guide you. Most musicians will tell you this.

 

[adumbrodeus]

Technically bad is still biased. There is simply no such thing as bad music.

Music Theory is not a set of rules, they meant to be broken. It is simply a set of guidelines meant to help guide you. Most musicians will tell you this.

Musicians are not really music critics.

I'm talking about high-leveled analysis.


Here's the rub, with music, you can't really judge whether the "goal" of the music is bad, but you CAN judge how well it accomplished it's "goal", whatever that goal is.

 

[Oracle]

It's not always biased, especially if you can point out why the music is bad, or at least worse than something else. It's just that aside from comparisons, there is no "bad". You can say "Tech n9ne is soooooooo much better than Geto Boyz because they have much better senses of rhythm, more vocal skill, etc." but you can't say "Geto boyz sucks LAWL"

 

[SuSa]

I hope you know that made no sense. None of my music has a "goal".

I personally despise this song and think it is a horrible piece of music (made by myself)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NXZbgWXyLgM

My friend happens to really enjoy it and wanted to learn it. He prefers by ear over tab, I got sick of playing it. I recorded it for him.

Musicly, I'd say that small piece is rather plain and boring, with no sense of a goal. It was just an improv. riff I did at school. (Which I later learned part of it was a tid-bit of a Metallica song, that I had remembered without realizing what it was..... until like 3 weeks after the fact)

Music is much like Art. There are things that can be seen to be "bad art" from an artistic point of view, or in the eyes of a critic. But it's still art/music.

Obviously a critic is going to criticize on it. (whether bad/good). Does that mean they are better then a musician at deciding what music is?

I think I'd prefer someone who makes music be the judge of something, compared to someone who listens.

You can say/tell if something is more technical, but being more technical does not mean it is better.

 

[arch knight]

I hope you know that made no sense. None of my music has a "goal".

I personally despise this song and think it is a horrible piece of music (made by myself)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NXZbgWXyLgM

My friend happens to really enjoy it and wanted to learn it. He prefers by ear over tab, I got sick of playing it. I recorded it for him.

Musicly, I'd say that small piece is rather plain and boring, with no sense of a goal. It was just an improv. riff I did at school. (Which I later learned part of it was a tid-bit of a Metallica song, that I had remembered without realizing what it was..... until like 3 weeks after the fact)

Music is much like Art. There are things that can be seen to be "bad art" from an artistic point of view, or in the eyes of a critic. But it's still art/music.

Obviously a critic is going to criticize on it. (whether bad/good). Does that mean they are better then a musician at deciding what music is?

I think I'd prefer someone who makes music be the judge of something, compared to someone who listens.

You can say/tell if something is more technical, but being more technical does not mean it is better.

I like it play more :D

 

[SuSa]

I like it play more :D

You've got to be kidding me. /I'm kidding.

I have a ton of small riffs, but none are over 20 seconds.

 

[Oracle]

Technicality is an awful judge of good music (and anything in general). Silent wolf is more technical than the whole east coast combined but he still isn't the best. Likewise, Dragonforce is one of the most ridiculously technical power metal bands out there, but does that make them good? of course not.

Also that's just a riff. I don't like it much either, as a riff, but it's a good tune and you could elaborate on it to make it better.

 

[SuSa]

I'm also almost sure Dragonforce can't even play their own **** live. lol

That being said, I still enjoy listening to a song or two now and then.

Also "better" is again an opinion. I could elaborate a bit on it and have it be worse in my eyes.

 

[arch knight]

You've got to be kidding me. /I'm kidding.

I have a ton of small riffs, but none are over 20 seconds.

I DEMAND MORE

also dragonforce admitted to speeding up some of their songs.

 

[Meru.]

God, do I hate Lil'Wayne. And one of my friends is a fan of him. But we don't have any problems at all. Just like you said, it's just an opinion.

 

[Crimson King]

King Crimson

+rep!

Music today is going to be a lot different than the last few decades, thanks to the internet. Instead of having the best of the best quality bands of the 60s and 70s where you had to be talented, proficient, and marketable, you get groups that need one thing: marketability.

This is obvious when you look at pop stars today who don't even write their own songs. Realistically, they could be replaced with someone who could sing slightly better, but as long as they have the look that sells, they will still be on top.

 

[Mike B]

If it's crap rap, Ill tell my friends to turn it off

 

[Suntan Luigi]

Youtube is a place full of lollish people saying lollish things.

 

[ƸArcher¤AngelusƷ]

Youtube is a place full of lollish people saying lollish things.

indeed it is. but lol yp your story seemed like a waste of time <.< but i enjoyed reading it. and yep there are those who have there own oppinions no matter what they can not be changed. <.< and hm XD i never heard of the bands you mentioned. are they good? )just asking for your oppinion)

 

[CRASHiC]

Instead of having the best of the best quality bands of the 60s and 70s where you had to be talented, proficient, and marketable, you get groups that need one thing: marketability.

Disco
Madonna
Weird Al
Brittany Spears
/destroys your argument.

This is obvious when you look at pop stars today who don't even write their own songs

Er, yeah, that's nothing new, not at all. No way.
Elvis didn't write his own songs.
Puala Abdule didn't write her own songs
Many disco starts didn't write his old songs.

Did I break your rose colored glasses yet?

 

[ranmaru]

I don't like Lil Wayne. Plus, when someone keeps telling you "its not oponion its fact" then their trollan.

Also I have that same kind of annoyance when my sister is listening to music. But I can't unfriend her. LOL jk I wouldn't do that to my sis. But still...

 

[~*Voom*~]

Umm not to burst your bubble but lots of people think the same....as your friends.
You cant tell them what to listen to.
it is true that some of the bands you stated truly are "crap"
Ask any proffesional music artist...(not including anything close to the bands you stated)

Nothing against you though....Sorry

~Voom~

P.S Queen, Michael Jackson ect.........are REAL MUSIC IMO

 

[Halloween]

i hate that crap like lil wayne and soulja boy... man they piss me off so much, and i do like rap.... I usually don't listen to new rap tho. Since im a guitarist rock has become my favorite music to listen to, and there are def crappy rock bands, but buckethead is just god. It annoys me how people call someone crap\bad\idiotic based on their appearance. Buckethead is such an amazing artist and is sooo under-rated due to his appearance.

 

[Kholdstare]

Types of musical stereotypes I've seen:

• Rap: These are usually black people that debunk rock, country, and pretty much every other type of music other than rap as being "gay". They say that rock is nothing more than screaming and banging on drums.
• Country: White trash / rednecks who drive big Ford trucks around and say anything but country (with the rare exception of rock) is "gay". They claim rap is nothing but black people ****** white women, shooting police, smoking crack, and stealing cars. Usually Southern conservative Christians.
• Rock: White junkies who usually have long hair and facial hair that wear sleeveless shirts and drive motorcycles. They say anything else than rock is "gay".
• Goth/Emo: Typical all black with skulls and makeup on. Write poetry, whine on their LiveJournals/MySpace, and are outsiders from the crowd. Like the Twilight series and Linkin Park.
• Classical: Read books, participate in debates, are intelligent, and laugh their ***** off at xkcd.com. Think that other types of music are mindless and offer no intellectual value. I fall into this category.

I encounter the first two more than most, and the last two are my group of friends.

 

[~*Voom*~]

i hate that crap like lil wayne and soulja boy... man they piss me off so much, and i do like rap.... I usually don't listen to new rap tho. Since im a guitarist rock has become my favorite music to listen to, and there are def crappy rock bands, but buckethead is just god. It annoys me how people call someone crap\bad\idiotic based on their appearance. Buckethead is such an amazing artist and is sooo under-rated due to his appearance.

I feel the same way man...i feel your pain

 

[Neo Exdeath]

Types of musical stereotypes I've seen:

• Rap: These are usually black people that debunk rock, country, and pretty much every other type of music other than rap as being "gay". They say that rock is nothing more than screaming and banging on drums.
• Country: White trash / rednecks who drive big Ford trucks around and say anything but country (with the rare exception of rock) is "gay". They claim rap is nothing but black people ****** white women, shooting police, smoking crack, and stealing cars. Usually Southern conservative Christians.
• Rock: White junkies who usually have long hair and facial hair that wear sleeveless shirts and drive motorcycles. They say anything else than rock is "gay".
• Goth/Emo: Typical all black with skulls and makeup on. Write poetry, whine on their LiveJournals/MySpace, and are outsiders from the crowd. Like the Twilight series and Linkin Park.
• Classical: Read books, participate in debates, are intelligent, and laugh their ***** off at xkcd.com. Think that other types of music are mindless and offer no intellectual value. I fall into this category.

I encounter the first two more than most, and the last two are my group of friends.

Any stereotypes for J-Pop, reggae, VG music, Latino music, and pop?

 

[~automatic]

Good question.
Reggae=Stoners with Marley shirts.

VG=I doubt most people are aware that many games have great music so a stereotype of that is probably nonexistant. Not a genre IMO because some VG music may be jazz (MvC2) or electronica (FzeroGX) or any other genre. Sonic adventure 2 is a great example of this.

Pop=none that I know of. Besides pop changes over time because it's "POPular" music.

Latino music is just a term given to music that comes from latin countries, it's not an actual genre because many genres are labeled as latin. Latin music in the States is ussually defined by Reggaeton, Norteño and mainstream pop from various Latin countries. In Spanish speaking countries the stereotypes for the mentioned genres are different from the larger picture of "Latino" in the states as well as the individual genres.

Same goes for Jpop stereotypes. While in the states people may think that only weaboos listen to Jpop; in Japan the genre is definitely more widespread (duh) and the profiling may change according to the artist/band since that happens within all genres in one way or the other.

One way or the other stereotypes never quite get it right, are ignorant and just lead to further profiling.
Live and let live.

I'm surprised people ignored this post.

as a drummer
music is music
whether is country, or rap, or metal
whatever
if it has a beat its music
even tho i think some genres of music are terrible, its still music
and tho a certain genre of music may take more skill then another to produce or compose
it still take skill and there should be respect for that

people that say
X>Y in a musical standpoint have no right to discuss music further i learned it the hard way

Dude knows what's up.

 

[Neo Exdeath]

What the heck does "weaboo" mean, anyways?

 

[Teran]

Try not to reference drugs please.

 

[¯\_S.(ツ).L.I.D._/¯]

What the heck does "weaboo" mean, anyways?

Where do you look when you want to find the definition of a word that isn't a word.

Here's a hint:

It rhymes with "Turban Pictionary"

 

[masterdrenin]

Yo, lil wayne gives rap a terribad name... check this real rap:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6gkpMA_vbFo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E3kgjzUsDeg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i25oauXQt6c
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wBlQeVWvdI0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IhYFllmuxbs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ctpic0VhrA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m5vw4ajnWGA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ozkSfyWpPUU

In all honesty, I'm a huge jazz head, Louis Armstrong, Charlie Parker, Miles Davis, John Coltrane, Art Tatum, John Coltrane, Duke Ellingtion, Dizzy Gillespie, Art Blakey, Sun Ra, Chet Baker, Lester Young, Billie Holiday (i could go on for a while) all day. Real skills...

I also dig reggae, blues, classical, and jimi hendrix yeee

 

[Pink Reaper]

I have trouble saying any artist is good or bad, and will mostly refuse to do so. When someone asks me what kind of music I listen to I usually say Rap, but when they ask me who I listen to I usually get confused. Why assume that any one artist is always going to have good songs or any one artist is always going to have bad songs. Find what you enjoy and listen to it, don't devote yourself to a single artists just cus you like one or two songs from them. >_>

 

[joeplicate]

what the ****, no

you're ****ed up

 

[Pink Reaper]

No U

House me for Active Gamers so I don't have to stay in that ****hole SB

 

[Esoteric]

Musical taste is all subjective. More at 11.

If anyone uses last.fm feel free to add me. :]

www.last.fm/user/Eso-