Idiots and Music

[SuSa]

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Idiots and music

It has recently been brought to my attention yet again, for... the millionth time this year... I think... maybe billionth? Whatever, it has just happened a lot this year.

It's called an opinion, not a fact. When people arguing an opinion as a fact, it gets on my nerves. Mostly because the argument never ends. "Metallica is the best" "No Slipknot" "No Jonas Brothers" "No Britney Spears" "No Johnny Cash" "No ASDFASDfjaskl;fjkl;vjxcuv90we8u5"

I've actually lost a friend because he hated my "noise" (aka: music) so much and couldn't stand to listen to it, although he rarely had to. (Maybe a few times when he was at my house and it's what other people that were visiting wanted to listen to as well?)

(For anyone interested, we were listening to: Phobia, Light This City, Meshuggah, and Cannibal Corpse)

People calling some music "not real music" or "garbage" or "just sounds" or "lacking emotion". This truly makes me sad inside. Not that they are close-minded idiots, but the sole fact that idiots such as these are even alive.

One such idiot went as far to say that Metallica, Exodus, Slayer, "and other such bands" were the only true "music" (didn't even say "metal" like most idiots do) and I don't think they really understood what they were saying. These people learned from somewhere, they weren't the creators of music. They were not the creators of music theory. They may have been some of the earliest metal, but the only true music?

Surprisingly, an intelligent individual responded to said idiot, telling him he is wrong - stating that it is only an opinion, not fact - and listing people that have influenced the previously mentioned bands. The idiot, apparently immune to logic then responded with "You're just a classical loving idiot who loves to listen to some moron play random things on a piano, what do you know of real music?" (Which, checking the intelligent individual, most of his favorites were of classical music).

Now I decided to check the idiot's profile, only to find Metallica and Exodus songs favorited. With 1-2 songs by Slayer. Join date was some years ago, so he's been around a while. Surprisingly.

On to another case. This time it happens to occur on an anime song (I forget the specifics) linked to me by a friend. While listening to the great work of art that the music was, I scrolled down only to see people arguing about.....rap? Wait... rap? I wondered how that topic was even brung about on such a video. I decided I didn't really care, and ignored the "Lil' Wayne is the best rapper, and if you don't like him you're listening to ****" and like comments, now having changed my mood. They were discussing some rap, so I wanted to listen to some.

I chose Immortal Technique (specifically "Dance With The Devil"), and while listening to the sad tale being spun. I again decide to browse the comments. This time, people are arguing about ICP and some other band I forget to care to remember. Having almost finished my IT song by now, I figured I'd listen to some ICP, although shortly after bringing up the link to a song. I saw a video "ICP dissing Eminem" or something along those lines.

I decided to watch that instead, because I've never seen it before. Of course, it's an Eminem Remix (of sorts, not really) making fun of him. I thought it was pretty clever, and yes - I do listen to and like Eminem as well.

Again, being the idiot that I am myself. I decided to go about reading the comments, obviously not thinking of the obvious flame war that would be going on about such a video. Many idiots flaming Eminem and ICP back and forwarth, with a few II's (intelligent individuals) who were actually able to state:
Quote:
"Well... I listen to ICP, but I like Eminem. To be honest both are pretty good."
This made me happy. Not the fact that they said both are pretty good, but the fact they weren't dissing one artist for absolutely no reason besides being close minded idiots.

Delving further into the flame war, I found one [/b][/u] amazing[/b][/u] individual who stated "I love ICP, and I listen to them almost daily. And while I don't listen to Eminem, I think everyone dissing him needs to get a life. If he's so ****, why don't you do better and sell more then him?" I instantly thumb'd up the comment, and left. Happy that I had found one individual who shone brighter then the rest.

Until I realized it was one of my old accounts.

*sigh*

/if you read this far. For srs. I just wanted to waste your time with a horribly organized "tale" with a ****ty plot and a worse twist.

Hope you enjoyed your time.

tl;dr
Comment on close minded idiots dissing music they don't like - and you'll be on topic.

 

[M.K]

Lil' Wayne is awesome, but it's okay if you don't listen to him. In fact, that goes with all artists.
I don't care for the people who criticize my own music choices, it's not like you have to be all up in my headphones/car/stereo system blasting air waves killing millions daily.

 

[Clownbot]

Teran hates idiots. This is totally going to be BotW.




On a serious note.....

I agree with almost everything you said here. Don't sweat it, though-- I'd guess aroud 90% of the YouTube population acts like that at one point or another (albeit some definitely do it more than others.....)

 

[SuSa]

Eh... I despise Lil'Wayne with a passion, but he's still music. <_< Which is what I was getting at.

I have a rather large sense of things I consider good (over 14,000 songs with over 4300 artists on my iTunes) so I actually find it rare for me to dislike an artist.

****, I even have a song by the Jonas Brothers on my iTunes. (Lovebug?)

What do Jonas Brothers, Slipknot, DJ Tiesto, Angerfist, Johnny Cash, Light This City, Kanye West, Immortal Technique, Dr. Acula, Green Day, Sublime, Ali Project and Guttermouth all have in common? (Yes, I'm biased more into Metal/Rock)

They are all music. :x

EDIT:
@clownbot
Problem is it's not restricted to YouTube... it's anywhere music is found. :/

 

[Grey Belnades]

Lil' Wayne is awesome, but it's okay if you don't listen to him. In fact, that goes with all artists.
I don't care for the people who criticize my own music choices, it's not like you have to be all up in my headphones/car/stereo system blasting air waves killing millions daily.

This.

Also to the OP, I hope you don't think that all Metal listeners are "idiots". I love Johnny Cash and classical music.

 

[SuSa]

You should look at my current playlist then decide if I'm biased against any ____ listeners. <_<

Almost every music group is just as much to blame as another. (Although I see it far more with Metal and Rap. Both against eachother, and against themselves.... although I've rarely actually seen it in Classical.... I'm sure it happens - I just don't look hard enough )

 

[~automatic]

Alesana is such a ****tty band.

I did enjoy your ****ty story. lolz
I give my brother's music (mostly mainstream pop, electronica and some emo stuff thrown in there) a chance every now and then and I dont like most of it, I'll port some of his stuff to my Itunes library if I like it though. The one time he sat down to listen to my stuff (Ska, punk, metal, latin, techno, Jpop and reggae to mention A FEW genres) he didnt like any of it. Dude says my taste in music is too narrow and that his favoite band (reiK) is better than my favorite band (Kung Fu Monkeys [uber cool ska punk band]) because of their selling more albums than my favorite band and whatnot.
*Sigh*
Let the idiots have their fun.

 

[SuSa]

I already hate your brother. You should hit him (in any so way you choose) and say I told you to do it.

I haven't even heard of reiK (Yep. Bands I haven't heard of. Happens a lot to me. I only got into music when I was 12... Gorillaz "Feel Good Inc." made me by their album. Been hooked on music since)

I'll check out reiK, already have a bit of Kung Fu Monkeys on my iPod. (I listen to foreign music, even if I don't understand the lyrics. It can still sound good. :3

/Listens to Khold and Threat Signal (IIRC: Both are Dutch)

 

[Matador]

"Dance with the Devil" is a truly amazing song. Knowing that one more person has heard it makes me smile.

 

[SuSa]

So if the Devil wants to dance with you....you better say never, because a dance with the Devil might last you forever.

Off 1 video:
"1,973,340 views"

I'm sure plenty of people have seen it. Haha.

 

[Pierce7d]

I only got into music when I was 12... Gorillaz "Feel Good Inc." made me by their album.

My older sister caught me too. It's on my phone now.

I have extremely diverse music tastes, though there are some types I like better than others. Recently, I've been enjoying Kpop

 

[.AC.]

~automatic has the best music taste in the world,true fact.

 

[†Slader7†]

I wonder if any of those "idiots" you mentioned ever just sat down and listened to a variety of music besides metal/rock. I personally like Metallica, Linkin park, Eminem, 50 Cent, Beethoven, and Tchaikovsky

Music is meant to be enjoyed, not to start arguments

 

[stabbedbyanipple]

Something you'll always be criticized for in life, no matter what, is taste in music.

Yet most people jump at the chance to show off what music they enjoy.

 

[¯\_S.(ツ).L.I.D._/¯]

@AC:

You can't have "the best music taste." Your music taste is your own, and it's all just opinions, that's kinda what this is saying.

BTW Lupe Fiasco.

 

[Matador]

Something you'll always be criticized for in life, no matter what, is taste in music.

Yet most people jump at the chance to show off what music they enjoy.

QFT

This is basically the moral of the story. Your friend just overreacted.

 

[Nihongo-ookami]

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Idiots and music

It has recently been brought to my attention yet again, for... the millionth time this year... I think... maybe billionth? Whatever, it has just happened a lot this year.

It's called an opinion, not a fact. When people arguing an opinion as a fact, it gets on my nerves. Mostly because the argument never ends. "Metallica is the best" "No Slipknot" "No Jonas Brothers" "No Britney Spears" "No Johnny Cash" "No ASDFASDfjaskl;fjkl;vjxcuv90we8u5"

I've actually lost a friend because he hated my "noise" (aka: music) so much and couldn't stand to listen to it, although he rarely had to. (Maybe a few times when he was at my house and it's what other people that were visiting wanted to listen to as well?)

(For anyone interested, we were listening to: Phobia, Light This City, Meshuggah, and Cannibal Corpse)

People calling some music "not real music" or "garbage" or "just sounds" or "lacking emotion". This truly makes me sad inside. Not that they are close-minded idiots, but the sole fact that idiots such as these are even alive.

One such idiot went as far to say that Metallica, Exodus, Slayer, "and other such bands" were the only true "music" (didn't even say "metal" like most idiots do) and I don't think they really understood what they were saying. These people learned from somewhere, they weren't the creators of music. They were not the creators of music theory. They may have been some of the earliest metal, but the only true music?

Surprisingly, an intelligent individual responded to said idiot, telling him he is wrong - stating that it is only an opinion, not fact - and listing people that have influenced the previously mentioned bands. The idiot, apparently immune to logic then responded with "You're just a classical loving idiot who loves to listen to some moron play random things on a piano, what do you know of real music?" (Which, checking the intelligent individual, most of his favorites were of classical music).

Now I decided to check the idiot's profile, only to find Metallica and Exodus songs favorited. With 1-2 songs by Slayer. Join date was some years ago, so he's been around a while. Surprisingly.

On to another case. This time it happens to occur on an anime song (I forget the specifics) linked to me by a friend. While listening to the great work of art that the music was, I scrolled down only to see people arguing about.....rap? Wait... rap? I wondered how that topic was even brung about on such a video. I decided I didn't really care, and ignored the "Lil' Wayne is the best rapper, and if you don't like him you're listening to ****" and like comments, now having changed my mood. They were discussing some rap, so I wanted to listen to some.

I chose Immortal Technique (specifically "Dance With The Devil"), and while listening to the sad tale being spun. I again decide to browse the comments. This time, people are arguing about ICP and some other band I forget to care to remember. Having almost finished my IT song by now, I figured I'd listen to some ICP, although shortly after bringing up the link to a song. I saw a video "ICP dissing Eminem" or something along those lines.

I decided to watch that instead, because I've never seen it before. Of course, it's an Eminem Remix (of sorts, not really) making fun of him. I thought it was pretty clever, and yes - I do listen to and like Eminem as well.

Again, being the idiot that I am myself. I decided to go about reading the comments, obviously not thinking of the obvious flame war that would be going on about such a video. Many idiots flaming Eminem and ICP back and forwarth, with a few II's (intelligent individuals) who were actually able to state:
Quote:
"Well... I listen to ICP, but I like Eminem. To be honest both are pretty good."
This made me happy. Not the fact that they said both are pretty good, but the fact they weren't dissing one artist for absolutely no reason besides being close minded idiots.

Delving further into the flame war, I found one [/b][/u] amazing[/b][/u] individual who stated "I love ICP, and I listen to them almost daily. And while I don't listen to Eminem, I think everyone dissing him needs to get a life. If he's so ****, why don't you do better and sell more then him?" I instantly thumb'd up the comment, and left. Happy that I had found one individual who shone brighter then the rest.

Until I realized it was one of my old accounts.

*sigh*

/if you read this far. For srs. I just wanted to waste your time with a horribly organized "tale" with a ****ty plot and a worse twist.

Hope you enjoyed your time.

tl;dr
Comment on close minded idiots dissing music they don't like - and you'll be on topic.

IMO, Cannibal corpse sounds like a car crashing into a band setup. But hey, if someone else likes it, far be it from me to tell them otherwise.

Good read, man. Good read.

 

[CRASHiC]

I agree with what you said completely, however, you also do have to admit that those who do not challenge their own taste, do not attempt to expand their musical taste, even if they admit that what they do not listen to is not less valid than what they listen to, these people are just as ignorant, and hurt music nearly equally.
I am constantly searching out new sounds, new artist, things foreign and alien to me, and my musical library is constantly growing. I generally download about a gig of music at least during a given week, and I once took on nearly 100 new vinyls.
Music deserves much more attention than it receives.

 

[Scott!]

I agree with what you said completely, however, you also do have to admit that those who do not challenge their own taste, do not attempt to expand their musical taste, even if they admit that what they do not listen to is not less valid than what they listen to, these people are just as ignorant, and hurt music nearly equally.
I am constantly searching out new sounds, new artist, things foreign and alien to me, and my musical library is constantly growing. I generally download about a gig of music at least during a given week, and I once took on nearly 100 new vinyls.
Music deserves much more attention than it receives.

I'm going to have to disagree with this pretty strongly. Listening to music is about listening to something you enjoy. If these people know what music they like, then what's wrong? You don't even say how they're hurting music. They're not promoting ignorance. They know that other music is just as valid, but choose not to listen to it. Just because they don't download a gig+ of music every week, or every year, doesn't make their musical preferences less valid than yours.

 

[CRASHiC]

I'm going to have to disagree with this pretty strongly. Listening to music is about listening to something you enjoy. If these people know what music they like, then what's wrong? You don't even say how they're hurting music. They're not promoting ignorance. They know that other music is just as valid, but choose not to listen to it. Just because they don't download a gig+ of music every week, or every year, doesn't make their musical preferences less valid than yours.

It is ignorance though.
"I don't like black people, but they are people!"
I have worked and strived to find something to appreciate in every genre of music, and thus far have prove successful in my indevours.
They don't need to go to the extreme that I am at to learn to appreciate a greater range of expression. Music is an attempt by someone to share something personal, and it deserves to be at least attempted to be honored and respected.

 

[Matador]

It is ignorance though.

Ignorance isn't a BAD thing if you choose to live in it, especially if it's in regards to something as opinionated as music.

Some people don't look at music the way that you do, and for something like music where it's all based on personal taste, that's okay imho.

 

[Wrath`]

It is ignorance though.
"I don't like black people, but they are people!"
I have worked and strived to find something to appreciate in every genre of music, and thus far have prove successful in my indevours.
They don't need to go to the extreme that I am at to learn to appreciate a greater range of expression. Music is an attempt by someone to share something personal, and it deserves to be at least attempted to be honored and respected.

It is not ignorance. No matter how hard I try, I can not get into Rap or Country (God I hate Country). Some people just can not stand some genres of music.

 

[CRASHiC]

It is not ignorance. No matter how hard I try, I can not get into Rap or Country (God I hate Country). Some people just can not stand some genres of music.

This is because your ears are not adjusted to this genre yet. They use a different system than what you are accustomed to.
I use to hate the band Animal Collective, and when I first heard them, I could only make it out as drone sounds.
Flashforward 2 years latter, I think Feels is amongst the top 3 albums of the decade, and I can now hear their music much more clearly. It through me off because of its out of tune instruments, its at times almost whispered vocals, its heavy reverb on guitars, and its almost use of odd ambient samples such as children laughing. Now I hear Feels, and don't think drone anymore, but the opposite, as quick paced, lively summer music.
There is still music that challenges me, but I work through the hard listening times to get down to the sincere elements that exist in all music.
At the moment, I am currently attempting to allow my ears to adjust to Drill N Bass.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yl6d7nitAns
Let's hope I don't go deaf first xD

 

[Scott!]

It is ignorance though.
"I don't like black people, but they are people!"
I have worked and strived to find something to appreciate in every genre of music, and thus far have prove successful in my indevours.
They don't need to go to the extreme that I am at to learn to appreciate a greater range of expression. Music is an attempt by someone to share something personal, and it deserves to be at least attempted to be honored and respected.

I don't see how it is ignorance. First off, the racism analogy is a bit off. I'd say your statement is more like saying that you dislike all country music, but acknowledge that it is music. That is not what you were criticizing before. You were calling out people who just choose not to listen to new music, not people who dislike a whole genre. If you want to continue this slightly strange race analogy, then it's more like saying that while I respect a certain culture, I'm happy with the traditions of my own and don't feel the need to partake of the traditions of this other one.

Also, the people you called out don't show a lack of respect for the music they don't listen to. I don't believe that just because music is made that I or anyone has to listen to it. If I don't agree with what the musician is sharing, or the style they use to share it, then I'm not going to listen to it. Good for them for expressing themselves, but that doesn't mean I have to listen.

 

[Wrath`]

This is because your ears are not adjusted to this genre yet. They use a different system than what you are accustomed to.
I use to hate the band Animal Collective, and when I first heard them, I could only make it out as drone sounds.
Flashforward 2 years latter, I think Feels is amongst the top 3 albums of the decade, and I can now hear their music much more clearly. It through me off because of its out of tune instruments, its at times almost whispered vocals, its heavy reverb on guitars, and its almost use of odd ambient samples such as children laughing. Now I hear Feels, and don't think drone anymore, but the opposite, as quick paced, lively summer music.
There is still music that challenges me, but I work through the hard listening times to get down to the sincere elements that exist in all music.
At the moment, I am currently attempting to allow my ears to adjust to Drill N Bass.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yl6d7nitAns
Let's hope I don't go deaf first xD

To me you sound like you view music as a challenge, not as something to enjoy. There is no different system, just style. I could listen to country, but it would never give me the same feeling I do when I listen to Metal/Classical/Video Game music/J-pop/J-rock/etc..., I like to enjoy my music, and my ears are good, thank you. I am in most of my high school music activities.

To me I think you don't get it, to you, you think I don't get, we all enjoy music differently and in different ways

 

[CRASHiC]

To me you sound like you view music as a challenge, not as something to enjoy. There is no different system, just style. I could listen to country, but it would never give me the same feeling I do when I listen to Metal/Classical/Video Game music/J-pop/J-rock/etc..., I like to enjoy my music, and my ears are good, thank you. I am in most of my high school music activities.

To me I think you don't get it, to you, you think I don't get, we all enjoy music differently and in different ways

Its not a challenge, but it can be a challenge to listen to things you aren't necessarily accustomed to listening too at first.
Music is nothing but systems.

The main difference in Peking Opera is the lack or harmony and the use of a 5 tone scale.

The difference in Bebop jazz and swing jazz is the heavy use of accents.

The difference in country and rock is a difference in chord structure. It doesn't have to have any twang in the voice at all to be country.
http://www.last.fm/music/Jana+Hunter/_/Bird

Style is what differentiates between those in a respected genre, but not the genre itself.

I am not implying that your ears are bad, just there are systems that seem foreign to it. Think of a person with an accent, despite them speaking in your language, you can't exactly understand them, but given time, you can understand them perfectly. Its the same with music.

 

[Wrath`]

I have heard enough Country (thanks to my friend of 8 years) and I feel like if I were to be accustomed to it, 8 years would be long enough, there is just some that people will not like some genres, no matter how long the listen to it. It is just being human.


Basically, you saying to me that my ears are not used to it is just as bad as saying this this and this sucks, you should be listening to this. We all have our own tastes, I hate sweet potatoes, no matter how many times i taste them. Same with some genres of music

 

[Wiscus]

Just lurking in to say I have never listened to or even heard of some/all of the bands/groups mentioned in this story. Except Eminem, you can't aviod hearing at least one Eminem song blasting from someones car speakers.
............................
To say I feel out of touch with today's popular music is an understatement.

All Music is to be enjoyed by anyone/everyone why argue?

Edit: Just read Crashic's post a bit more in depth and I don't know any of those bands either.....
*sigh*

 

[Nysyarc]

What really bothers me is people who hate on country music without even ever having listened to it. They just assume they won't like it because it's become an irrational fad. It's apparently cool now (where I live anyways) for teens to dislike country. Too many times I've seen people's Facebook accounts say they'll listen to "anything but country" as if that's going to get some approving comments from people who are already their friends.

I dislike rap. Or hip-hop or whatever you want to call it (I don't look into it because I dislike it). I sometimes joke around and say that it's not music when I'm trying to get my point across, but I realize that people do like it and so it's my opinion. I like any kind of rock music but it has to have catchy guitar playing... I won't listen to a death metal song that repeats a ridiculously heavy three chord riff over and over without even stopping for a solo.

It's all music, but people have their opinions about it. I wouldn't go so far as to call someone an 'idiot' or 'closed-minded' if they say only their favorite genre is real music. To them, everything else doesn't sound like music. Rap doesn't sound like music to me, but I'm able to understand that it does to other people. Don't hate on people like that without understanding them, because that's exactly what they're doing to music. You don't want to be a hypocrite. Understanding breeds empathy.

 

[Snail]

I mainly listen to progressive/art rock and I know I'll never like bubblegum pop. Does that mean I hurt music or am ignorant? I've simply moved on to something closer to my taste and while I'm all open to many genres of music, there will always be bands, artists, even genres I'll never like. Is it wrong to accept that? Music is not always an attempt to share something personal - to some, it's just an attempt to make money.

I definitely agree that some people are way too closed-minded about music though, but some of it is just really inaccessible to some people. I don't blame my friends for not liking bands like King Crimson or Gentle Giant...but I do blame them for shrugging them off entirely after hearing 30 seconds of one song, then proceeding to attempt to get me into the Jonas Brothers. I (currently) don't enjoy rap, and though perhaps I could if I put in the effort, I'm deeply enjoying my current music and I'm nowhere near done listening to that yet. Basically, I don't feel the need to branch out just yet... but to say that hurts music, I find somewhat insulting :/

 

[.AC.]

@AC:

You can't have "the best music taste." Your music taste is your own, and it's all just opinions, that's kinda what this is saying.

BTW Lupe Fiasco.

i wasnt serious

 

[Uffe]

Haha! The last part made me laugh, but that sucks. :/ I think that if you enjoy a certain genre or genres or artists, you shouldn't really diss one's taste in music. I like a whole lot of different music, some better than others, but I still enjoy it. I'm not a fan of Rap or Country however and I'm not the type who follows that crowd. I'll admit that I've heard a few good Rap songs and Country songs.

 

[RyuReiatsu]

Loved the "plot twist" LOL. Hands up for you man xD.

My older sister caught me too. It's on my phone now.

I have extremely diverse music tastes, though there are some types I like better than others. Recently, I've been enjoying Kpop

*High fives*

 

[SuSa]

Its not a challenge, but it can be a challenge to listen to things you aren't necessarily accustomed to listening too at first.
Music is nothing but systems.

The main difference in Peking Opera is the lack or harmony and the use of a 5 tone scale.

The difference in Bebop jazz and swing jazz is the heavy use of accents.

The difference in country and rock is a difference in chord structure. It doesn't have to have any twang in the voice at all to be country.
http://www.last.fm/music/Jana+Hunter/_/Bird

Style is what differentiates between those in a respected genre, but not the genre itself.

I am not implying that your ears are bad, just there are systems that seem foreign to it. Think of a person with an accent, despite them speaking in your language, you can't exactly understand them, but given time, you can understand them perfectly. Its the same with music.

I would beg to differ.

There are styles, not just systems of music. (And your "systems" is rather just a different way of using music. Not entirely a system")

I can understand Rap just fine. Sometimes I like the beats to a song, sometimes I don't. Sometimes a riff will get stuck in my head, other times it doesn't. Why is this? It is not because my brain has not adjusted (otherwise it would be overwhelmed) but because I simply didn't enjoy one over another.

If I asked you to eat something, let's say something I had you eat every single day for a week. Breakfast, lunch, and dinner. (Let's just assume you aren't allergic to peanuts and I gave you a Peanut Butter Sandwhich), then for 1 meal I let you choose what you wanted. While your tastes are tuned to a PB, would you choose that for your meal? Chances are you would not. Because you are sick of the taste - or you prefer something else. For not choosing the PB, would I say there is something wrong with how you are adjusted? Nope.

There are flavors of music - much like there are flavors of food. You can take a bite and enjoy many types of food, much like you can music. But try and try - I doubt you can eventually like everything. You can like a vast amount, but never anything.

Live long enough to prove me wrong.

 

[~ Gheb ~]

I've been listening to music ever since I was a little child. There's a lot of good music out there but you have to be open minded if you want to have a rich, diverse selection of music you can listen to. I listen to all kinds of music: Bob Dylan, Radiohead, The Smiths, The Cure, ABBA, The Rolling Stones, Led Zeppelin, Oasis, Coldplay, The Beach Boys, Metallica, The Who, The Kinks, Jurassic 5, Run DMC, Public Enemy, Velvet Underground ... the list is endless. It's basically a collection of musicians I used to listen to starting from when I was 3 years old up until now. I still love them all
The one habit that I found out to be the most helpful is to get rid of "stereotypes". Any kind of music can be great it doesn't matter if it's HipHop or Rock 'n Roll or anything else. As long as the music is great then it really shouldn't matter if it's commercial or not or whether it belongs to a certain genre.

That said, I happen to dislike a big part of metal. It's not because I don't like the style but because most metal bands simply suck in my opinion.

 

[¯\_S.(ツ).L.I.D._/¯]

Crashic just sounds like he's being a douche and trying to 1 up on people.

"I listen to every type of music so I can form a true opinion, and you can't unless you do too" is what I hear.

 

[CRASHiC]

Crashic just sounds like he's being a douche and trying to 1 up on people.

"I listen to every type of music so I can form a true opinion, and you can't unless you do too" is what I hear.

I am not trying to one up someone at all.
I ask for respected for what deserves respect.
My post had nothing to do with me.

 

[¯\_S.(ツ).L.I.D._/¯]

Aight, just saying what it sounded like to me.

 

[Scott!]

I am not trying to one up someone at all.
I ask for respected for what deserves respect.
My post had nothing to do with me.

I just have to ask how it is in any way not respectful for someone to decide not to listen to a certain type of music that they don't enjoy. Sure, it's disrespectful if they start bashing it, but if they don't bash it, and just make the choice to listen to other music, I see no disrespect.

 

[P.C. Jona]

as a drummer
music is music
whether is country, or rap, or metal
whatever
if it has a beat its music
even tho i think some genres of music are terrible, its still music
and tho a certain genre of music may take more skill then another to produce or compose
it still take skill
and there should be respect for that

people that say
X>Y
in a musical standpoint
have no right to discuss music further
i learned it the hard way