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I remember during the Smash Ballot, IGN was campaigning for Tails to get in. That speaks volumes to a certain extent. I think Tails will get in the base roster along with other Mii costumes that will become playable characters.
I wish I had the confidence to say that, but I can at least say I hope you're right.
I still hope that Tails will get in the base game, though at the same time I am prepared for disappointment. Oh well, at least I got Ridley in, and Isabelle looks pretty neat.
Probably some villain like Bowser, Ganondorf or Ridley. I can imagine one of them tossing Sonic off a cliff and when you see Sonic about to fall, he has his eyes closed. Afterwards he opens his eyes, and notices he isn't dead and he looks up to see Tails grabing him, saving him from the fall than it cuts to Tails's gameplay footage. Afterwards, you see the cutscene of Sonic and Tails fighting a villain than Shadow interferes than it cuts to his gameplay footage.
I do think it would be helpful to us if Shadow missed the base game because a package deal of both Tails and Shadow would be great for DLC. Though Shadow being a base game echo might things somewhat harder, but I'd still believe Tails would still be potential DLC. Just wouldn't with the same luxury of being packaged with an echo fighter.
Excellent post, though I do think saying he's a lock is dangerous especially if you mean base game wise. I don't have the confidence to say he'll be in the base game while an echo Shadow I'm kind of 50/50 on. I do think DLC will be Tails' best chance. But I still appreciate your supporting post.Hi, this is GhostStorm, from over on GameFaqs and YouTube. I've been reading through the post, seen a few people I already recognize. You know I'm a Tails supporter all the way. I'll go ahead and just throw my two cents into the topic instead of just waiting. I don't just hope he is in, I'm almost certain that he will be, there's a lot more good evidence for him than against him and to be quite frank we might be getting both Tails and Shadow. I've noticed ever since they brought Shadow back he's been kind of portrayed as the fourth wheel of the Sonic gang, look at some of the advertisements over the past year and you might see what I'm talking about.....
The reason why I believe this is the most optimal situation is that......Tails, I don't care what anyone says is going to get a spot. He's been a more relevant, more prominent, and frankly more consistent character than Shadow and is a pioneer of the franchise. Tails has been wanted since Melee, He's been mentioned by two major publications, is one of the most iconic and memorable video game characters of all time and Sakurai isn't ignorant he knows this. Just like how he went and put Proto Man and Bass with MegaMan, because he knows they're a trio I'm sure he knows about Tails and Knuckles being Sonic's companions. Not to mention the Sonic 2 re-release? Sonic Mania re-release (Tagline "Ultimate Celebration of past and future") ? Team Sonic Racing (Team Sonic: Sonic, Tails and Knuckles)? A new Sonic series based around the Mania crews work? The fact that Shadow's assist trophy was replaced with Knuckles and not Tails or an item representing the character (Ie: The moon with Skull Kid or the bus with Isabelle)?The Mii costume???? Sonic 2 just had its 25th anniversary last year come on now.....Shadow however IS a very popular character and honestly, while I do believe Knuckles does DESERVE it more, I'd not only rather have Shadow, but I think it keeps the balance better. Sonic, Tails and Shadow have a very similar parallel to Fox, Falco and Wolf or Pit, Palutena and Dark Pit....etc....it feels right. It wouldn't surprise me if Sakurai thought this way at all. Tails and Shadow I feel in this instance are also more unique as characters, Tails defining trait is flight, Shadow's is stopping time.........Knuckles defining trait is punching ****....which a lot of characters on the roster already do. I think Tails is a lock in my opinion, Sakurai is a smart guy, I don't feel he would **** Tails over like that especially considering the weight and history that character holds. I'd be utterly shocked if he didn't make it in with classics like Ken.
I also thought of Fox, Falco and Wolf,
I think Tails getting into the base roster is a lock, but everything else I agree with.Hi, this is GhostStorm, from over on GameFaqs and YouTube. I've been reading through the post, seen a few people I already recognize. You know I'm a Tails supporter all the way. I'll go ahead and just throw my two cents into the topic instead of just waiting. I don't just hope he is in, I'm almost certain that he will be, there's a lot more good evidence for him than against him and to be quite frank we might be getting both Tails and Shadow. I've noticed ever since they brought Shadow back he's been kind of portrayed as the fourth wheel of the Sonic gang, look at some of the advertisements over the past year and you might see what I'm talking about.....
The reason why I believe this is the most optimal situation is that......Tails, I don't care what anyone says is going to get a spot. He's been a more relevant, more prominent, and frankly more consistent character than Shadow and is a pioneer of the franchise. Tails has been wanted since Melee, He's been mentioned by two major publications, is one of the most iconic and memorable video game characters of all time and Sakurai isn't ignorant he knows this. Just like how he went and put Proto Man and Bass with MegaMan, because he knows they're a trio I'm sure he knows about Tails and Knuckles being Sonic's companions. Not to mention the Sonic 2 re-release? Sonic Mania re-release (Tagline "Ultimate Celebration of past and future") ? Team Sonic Racing (Team Sonic: Sonic, Tails and Knuckles)? A new Sonic series based around the Mania crews work? The fact that Shadow's assist trophy was replaced with Knuckles and not Tails or an item representing the character (Ie: The moon with Skull Kid or the bus with Isabelle)?The Mii costume???? Sonic 2 just had its 25th anniversary last year come on now.....Shadow however IS a very popular character and honestly, while I do believe Knuckles does DESERVE it more, I'd not only rather have Shadow, but I think it keeps the balance better. Sonic, Tails and Shadow have a very similar parallel to Fox, Falco and Wolf or Pit, Palutena and Dark Pit....etc....it feels right. It wouldn't surprise me if Sakurai thought this way at all. Tails and Shadow I feel in this instance are also more unique as characters, Tails defining trait is flight, Shadow's is stopping time.........Knuckles defining trait is punching ****....which a lot of characters on the roster already do. I think Tails is a lock in my opinion, Sakurai is a smart guy, I don't feel he would **** Tails over like that especially considering the weight and history that character holds. I'd be utterly shocked if he didn't make it in with classics like Ken.
Not at all dangerous. Sakurai has most likely been hearing about the Sonic characters for years and after the mii costumes DLC? Knuckles is already an assist trophy, why would they sell you Sonic characters as DLC that doesn't make much sense at all to me. If neither Tails nor Shadow make the base roster then it's pretty much officially over for those characters in my book. Even if DLC is not decided by developers themselves, people will surely move on to other choices, like Crash, Banjo, Shantae, Rex and Pyra, Octolings and so on characters who are not only popular choices but are more unique and eye catching buys for the general audience I believe.
this is my thought process. why would you add new sonic characters in the game, yet neglect Sonic's best friend when you're using the tagline "Everyone is Here!"? I don't think that'd sit right with a lot of people.
See that's a quote that's really bothering me as well. They never said "Everyone IS BACK" they said "Everyone is HERE!".....which we already knows implies more than just the characters from previous games considering we have new additions. And something tells me with Smash Ultimate starting production not to long after Smash 4's DLC wrap up, that it wasn't that hard to get too many of the companies back on board---Sega has a great relationship with Nintendo, Namco develops the damn game, Capcom had wanted Mega Man in since Brawl and has a good relationship with them, I feel like Square was probably the only real difficult one to get going. There's a lot of characters with a lot of good evidence backing them and it just doesn't feel like we're being told the whole story, notice how in every other aspect--the music, the stage number, the amount of ways to play they're trying to blow our minds but constantly trying to temper our expectations as far as characters? Something isn't adding up to me and I honestly feel as though the last direct is going to be something shocking in addition to Story mode and online, that we'll get a montage similar to the first with some new characters being introduced. To me that would explain why character reveals are being slowed down, it already raised suspicion that they announced 5 characters at that direct after their E3. Getting quite a few fan favorites announced close to release would generate extreme amounts of hype and would keep people preoccupied with talk up until the game finally drops. This is all just a guess however.
I don't want to overexcite myself here, but OH man!
It could be that, but in that same vein, I feel they've been targeting fan favorite characters for new character inclusions, which has me thinking otherwise. Getting the likes of K. Rool, Ridley, Simon, Richter, Isabelle, Daisy and Chrom are all testament to that. not all of these characters were "popular" in the Smash speculation circle, but they DO have an audience they cater to. and I feel if Sakurai wanted to cater to the Sonic fans, it would need to involve both Shadow and Tails.
"Sega Confirms Next Round of Classic ‘Ages’ Games For Nintendo Switch, Including Sonic 2"
I think we, discussed about that a while ago, before Isabelle was revealed.
I can see 2 results from doing this: either Tails gets confirmed for Ultimate, or you summon forth the Tails Doll.
I forgot the Ages collection was announced! add that to my tin foil hat.
Hey if you're right, I'd definitely take that. Tails is my most wanted, so I dearly want you to be right about him being in the base game but just don't want to set myself up for any base game disappointments. I've just thought ever since "Everyone is Here!" was a focus that a good amount of newcomers would have to be saved for DLC and that includes secondary third parties such as more Sonic reps that aren't echo fighters like Tails. Sonic fans would line up for a Tails & Shadow DLC pack. (Though I think even if Shadow's an echo in base game, Tails could still stand alone as a decent DLC pick)
Obviously, I meant the whole ritaul thing as a joke but the risk of Tails Doll being summoned is worth it for Tails in Smasn Ultimate.
Btw: awesome idea. That would be such a hype reveal.
>2 spots on the website currently and I feel like both of those will be filled next time and another row will appear.
AAAAAHHHH!!!!
Castlevania only has one track on the website.
"Bloody Tears" and "Monster Dance" are counted as part of the same remix, but they're different songs (Its not an alternate title). The transition is so goddamn seamless if you aren't familiar with the Castlevania series you wouldn't even be able to tell they were different songs. However, these are both from the same game, neither of these are Richter's theme "Opposing Bloodlines".
We should still hold our horses though. Hype responsibly and at least put it in mind that whatever the next Smash announcements might be, it could just be Ken and/or Incineroar. Not saying you can't hope for any other characters, but just want to avoid an angry backlash when it's not what we want.
Yeah, I said over on gamefaqs it could possibly be either one of them or even Isaac, but I really do feel that date can't be a coincidence. The timing of all this Sonic news is too high right now in my opinion. Something is about to pop off at any minute. I don't know about Ken, but I definitely feel Inceneroar might happen closer to the end of the month with Pokemon Let's Go and all coming in November. All I'll say is that if October 10th isn't a direct and its a channel trailer drop, I feel it will be third party characters. Something tells me the Sonic franchise is going to get some special treatment especially with how much they did with Castlevania in just one direct?
Kind of a technicality, since it's two songs put into one.
I too am trying to keep my excitement down. It's hard, let me tell you.
That's what I was thinking was the case, if we don't hear about a Direct soon I'll assume that's the case.
Exactly why I feel Tails would be a semi clone. A large majority of his abilities and sound effects are similar to Sonic, but his height and body shape are a bit different.
Biggest argument I've seen is that people think Shadow is going to get in as an echo, therefore SEGA will have 2 Unique characters and 1 echo fighter, and that they shouldn't get any more characters. As if 3 Unique SEGA reps or 4 total SEGA reps is too much.
People are saying that Shadow's more likely since he could be an Echo for Sonic........ That's it.
Shadow being easier to implement.....which doubt that's really true (for several reasons) and he's more popular than Tails which at the time of the ballot I don't really feel he was. I feel like the only people that are really Shadow fans are people in their early to mid 20s who grew up on the 4kids era. People who are old, OLD fans of Sonic usually people entering their 30s (who still play the series) don't seem to be the biggest fans of Shadow and during that time Shadow wasn't really the most marketed for the kids who were getting into the series at the time. Sonic Colors kind of introduced a third wave of fans and for the most part he's really only made cameos here and there in the mainline and spin offs.....Sonic and Tails have been at the forefront of pretty much every mainline title.