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I need help getting inside a lazer happy falco

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Smash Cadet
Joined
Jan 25, 2009
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I'm new to sheik, and a few of my friends play falco, and i have trouble getting inside there lazors. what are some good effective ways to get inside? Any advise is appreciated.
 

CanISmash

Smash Lord
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Mar 19, 2007
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Elmont LI, Queens. Philadelphia during semesters.
learn to run and power shield.
learn to powershield.

or you can just run and shield and get closer and closer. space yourself so shooting a laser would not be safe and you can counter somehow. (what i would do) also remember taking a few lasers is not the worst thing in the world if its helping your positioning.

all of these would be followed up by a grab btw but im sure someone better will explain.
 

KirbyKaze

Smash Legend
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Nov 18, 2007
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17,679
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Spiral Mountain
Nair over lasers.

Dash attack under lasers.

Powershield.

Full jump Fair.

Needles from platforms or simple platform dashes. Aerials from platform.

SH FF Waveland.

WD out of shield.

Just keep in mind your goal is not to be right in Falco's face, just a bit away from it (see Mogwai's thing in the Falco boards on being better with Falco and it'll have the laser spacing strategy that counters laser spacing somewhere in it and learn it), and remember that when you're moving around those lasers Matrix-style with sleek ninja amazingness.

I swear this topic has been covered 10000 times.
 

Oracle

Smash Master
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Dallas, TX
**** you want to get inside falco?

That's a little gay.

JK JK LOL

Kirbykaze already answered it.
 

LooksLikePit

Smash Ace
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Altadena, CA
the best way to get inside is to seduce him. Usually if you go up and shield, falco will get defensive and do something. This is when he is distracted, and is the best time to make your move. Also throw him off the edge and do stuff. Edgeguarding RAAAAAPPPEEEESSS hard
 

KirbyKaze

Smash Legend
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I'm really starting to think this matchup works in reverse. Sheik should be trying to make it impossible for Falco to break the pressure she's exerting on him, and make it impossible for Falco to get in, not vice versa. Also, killing him from a single grab is a real advantage if you can do it. It really makes the matchup easier I think.

But I might not know anything. I very well could be high on my love for Darc.

And Skler.

And Pink Reaper.

And a whole bunch of people, really.
 

soap

Smash Hero
Joined
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Cleveland, Ohio
they both try to pressure each other relentlessly

cosmos falco is funny, u try to pressure him and he just fulljumps away and plays full jump falco mindgames, like coming down with a dair, or a single laser, or double jumping if he is feelin frisky.
 

Laipply!

Smash Rookie
Joined
Mar 28, 2009
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Fort Wayne, IN
they both try to pressure each other relentlessly

cosmos falco is funny, u try to pressure him and he just fulljumps away and plays full jump falco mindgames, like coming down with a dair, or a single laser, or double jumping if he is feelin frisky.
lolz!!
I seen that! hahaha

the way I handle falcos lasers most of the time is just jumping over them, throwing needles, powersheilding...
the same thing everyone else said..
but keep in mind to stay unpredictable.. throw some nairs, even up airs are good some times..
 

Witchking_of_Angmar

Smash Lord
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The thing about lasers is that they can't be everywherer at once. And fortunately, Sheik has so many different heights (crouch, short hop, full hop, IDJ, normal DJ) that she can pretty much just jump between lasers. If Falco full hops, just start running at him and if he does a late laser, just shield that and WD out of shield and you just covered half of FD.
 
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