"I need a weapon" - Master Chief

[Yashichi]

Master Chief has too many guns and explosives, so that hurts his chances. Plus, he's evil. There's no way

 

[SpectreJordan]

How popular is Halo in Japan? I know over here Halo is up there with Mario, Sonic, Final Fantasy and Zelda. But I don't know what the Japanese think about Halo.

Xbox as a whole isn’t popular in Japan, so it’s not that big sadly. But Halo 3 ended up selling decently back in the day.

From what I know, hardcore Japanese gamers atleast know what Halo is. So I don’t think it’s a death sentence that Halo isn’t popular in Japan, I think Japanese gamers would understands it’s a pick for Americans much like how Hero was a pick for them.

 

[IanTheGamer]

Master Chief has too many guns and explosives, so that hurts his chances. Plus, he's evil. There's no way

Snake has explosives..

Also, he's EVIL?! Have you ever even PLAYED a Halo game?

 

[Houndstooth]

Xbox as a whole isn’t popular in Japan, so it’s not that big sadly. But Halo 3 ended up selling decently back in the day.

From what I know, hardcore Japanese gamers atleast know what Halo is. So I don’t think it’s a death sentence that Halo isn’t popular in Japan, I think Japanese gamers would understands it’s a pick for Americans much like how Hero was a pick for them.

Yeah, I know Halo 3 was where it was most popular there. The rest have kinda just been whatever. I think Chief is big enough character, though, even for the Japan region.

 

[Lionfranky]

Japanese are aware of Halo. Superman is famous, but not necessarily popular. Something like that.
Otherwise, Master Chief would've not made on front cover of Famitsu magazine.
Even Chinese recognize Chief as they called out Chinese movie poster for ripping off Master Chief.

There was a Japanese team that beat Bungie in Halo 2 match back in the day.

Reference in anime

I am going to add these in upcoming rating.

 

[MattX20]

Mojang is credited separately in the pass for Steve unlike Banjo who's credited for Microsoft. Technically, Microsoft didn't get a rep in the second pass yet so FP11 being Chief wouldn't be double dipping. That, and Chief's a a big enough gaming icon that he can justify inclusion regardless

 

[Sirfishe]

I wouldn’t include Sephiroth in that group. He’s a beloved icon across the globe.

I’m not sure about Min-Min either, I don’t really know how popular Arms is in Japan. That might just be a “pick for Nintendo execs to promote a newer serie
s” lmao

Well sephiroth strictly comes from a japanese RPG so its still Japan's baby. Even if he is well known, its still from the east

 

[Lionfranky]

It looks like people at RTC are so hung up at "double dip" rule and missing E3 spot. I am really interested in upcoming Microsoft x Nintendo collaboration. At this point, it's all confirmed... kinda. Looking at how fan rule and assumptions have gotten shattered left and right, I think there is very good chance that "double dip" rule and "disappointing last slot" pattern will be destroyed.

 

[Baba]

I get why people think E3 was his last chance, but if there really is some sort of collaboration happening in the fall, I see that as an even better opportunity.

 

[Houndstooth]

I get why people think E3 was his last chance, but if there really is some sort of collaboration happening in the fall, I see that as an even better opportunity.

Yeah, it's kind of weird. I really thought E3 was the make/break point for Master Chief. But now, I'm not so sure. I think he has a solid shot. At this point, it feels like just about anyone has a good chance.

 

[MattX20]

We've had big character reveals like Cloud and Steve outside of E3 before, so I can at least see why some hope for Chief to being the fall reveal can still occur.

 

[Sirfishe]

We've had big character reveals like Cloud and Steve outside of E3 before, so I can at least see why some hope for Chief to being the fall reveal can still occur.

Plus with King Zell mentioning that a reveal like that would most likely happen in a direct of some sort

I get why people think E3 was his last chance, but if there really is some sort of collaboration happening in the fall, I see that as an even better opportunity.

We all know he would be the last fighter. Your not going to say"masterchief finishes the fight" when you still have one more DLC announcement. Therefore he didn't finish it. Doesnt make sense

 

[helloiamhere]

IMO the "only big reveals happen at E3" thing doesn't jive. Ryu was the E3 reveal the year Cloud was revealed. Ryu is a big name but Cloud is gigantic huge, and many people thought it was impossible at the time.

 

[MegaAccf]

We've had big character reveals like Cloud and Steve outside of E3 before, so I can at least see why some hope for Chief to being the fall reveal can still occur.

Actually now thinking about it I think we're falling in pattern towards Smash reveals being huge during the summer/fall. The real only huge announcement during E3 for Smash was for Smash Ult reveal, and Banjo and Hero. But huge characters like Cloud and Steve for example had epic reveals during the fall as well.

If this pattern goes through again, we likely could be getting a big character reveal.

 

[Houndstooth]

So, changing the topic just a little bit, but I have been playing some Halo to get ready for Infinite. I'm trying to go through all of the games before it launches. Just finished Halo Wars yesterday. Those cut scenes are so good!

 

[SpectreJordan]

Halo Wars 2 is the only game in the series I haven’t played. I’ve owned it for a while, but it’s just been in my backlog. I’ll definitely get around to it before Infinite is out.

 

[ZealousGamer]

I started Halo Wars 2 but I got to go back to it as I got distracted by other things.

Sad but true story related to Halo Wars 2; I bought a physical copy and accidently cut too deep into the plastic wrapping when opening it. Now the Cover Art is exposed.

 

[Baba]

Dang discussion for Chief really died down after E3.
I hope we hear some new rumors or something soon. Its nice to have something to discuss.

 

[Zyliee]

Halo Wars is one of my favorites since it did Console RTS justice. I do understand for people who don't get that far into Halo Wars or really brushed it off since RTS is much different and even I put Halo Wars 2 off for a bit due to the difficulty of the later missions. I honestly think it saved the series a bit since Halo 5 was such hot garbage that I'm atleast interested in Halo Infinite if it means I can do a boss battle with Atriox.

Also, For Microsoft focused Mii skins:

Battletoads Brawler body, comes if you buy any of the heads.
Ori Brawler head and outfit
Fable Sword/Gunner outfit

 

[Lionfranky]

If anyone is interested in Halo Wars 2 coop, dm me.
It's been awhile since I played firefight mode.

 

[MasterCheef]

Master Chief from Halo via Microsoft likely 1st character of Fighter's pass 3

1 ( Glitch leaks Projectiles get stuck in characters ) https://twitter.com/Le_Basth/status/1368242856993947651
1.1 Note I do believe the other glitch involving hurt-boxes being ignored was exclusive to programming for Kazuya.

2 Creative Director For Halo ( Frank O’Connor’s ) Tweet @franklez “( Master Chief is not is Smash DLC. )” on 12/23/2018

3 Official Halo Twitter account response on ( 4/2/2019 ) to If you could bring any character in to Smash, who would it be?
a picture of Master Chief holding his helmet https://twitter.com/Halo/status/1113166542881951744

4 Official Halo instagram account shares ( Mario & Halo ) crossover artwork. https://www.instagram.com/p/CNkRuC6gtw2/

5 Official XBox France Tweet @XBoxFR ( A quand le masterchief dans supersmashbros ? )
@XBoxFR response = Il attend toujours son invitation… https://twitter.com/XboxFR/status/1311676187622748165

6 XBox Head Phil Spencer has had multiple interviews as of 07/11/2021 with a Nintendo Switch in the background and it means Microsoft is actually working very well with Nintendo.
6.1 via Co-Founder of http://XboxEra.com Nick "The cat seems to be out of the bag on Nintendo and Xbox. You'll hear more in the fall" https://twitter.com/Shpeshal_Nick/status/1380691678072238080?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

7 I think Master Chief will be a Game Awards announcement. Honestly He an Ahri are the only two I can think of who are the most deserving.

Reasons for believing in a fighters Pass 3​

1 As long as there’s an opportunity to make more fighters, Sakurai said he wants to push the record further. 11th Sep 2019
https://www.videogameschronicle.com/news/sakurai-no-way-future-smash-bros-games-will-have-as-many-fighters-as-ultimate/

2 SSBU DLC seem to be going the same direction as SSB4. ( I.E. Sakurai going back on no more after fighter’s pass 2 )
http://nintendoeverything.com/sakurai-no-premium-smash-bros-dlc-currently-planned-more/ this article is from 2014

3 Nintendo is trying to grow an official Smash Ultimate competitive scene and therefore likely their client base

3.1 Nintendo announced a partnership with PlayVS to bring ( SSBU / Splatoon 2 ) e-sports leagues to 3,000 High schools
https://www.nintendo.com/whatsnew/detail/2021/nintendo-partners-with-playvs-to-bring-competitive-fun-to-high-school-varsity-athletics/

3.2 Nintendo will most likely in 2022 announce another partnership with PlayVS to bring SSBU e-sports leagues to Colleges
https://www.ginx.tv/en/smash-ultimate/nintendo-forces-playvs-to-drop-smash-ultimate-collegiate-league

3.3 Super Smash Bros Ultimate frequently draws high volumes of students and is the National Esports Association’s recommended event for gauging student interest in collegiate e-sports. https://www.nea.gg/collegiate-smash-series

4 How many DLC characters was really a decision up to ( Shuntaro Fuwakara Nintendo President as of 2018 ) and the other companies who agreed to give the licensing of their characters to ( Nintendo and Masahiro Sakurai. )

4.1 Sakurai only gets first right of refusal so, only a Nintendo ( CEO / President / other high level ) can rule out a fighter’s pass 3.

5 Nintendo is trying to redo their ( best year 2017 ) in 2022. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C7ffpzyd2JM&t=648s

 

[MagnesD3]

I think it's a pipe dream to think there's a third pass, he's said it's definitive like 5 times now in different ways. If chiefs getting in it's now or never.

 

[perfectchaos83]

Wrong thread. Delete or ignore

 

[IanTheGamer]

Master Chief from Halo via Microsoft likely 1st character of Fighter's pass 3

1 ( Glitch leaks Projectiles get stuck in characters ) https://twitter.com/Le_Basth/status/1368242856993947651
1.1 Note I do believe the other glitch involving hurt-boxes being ignored was exclusive to programming for Kazuya.

2 Creative Director For Halo ( Frank O’Connor’s ) Tweet @franklez “( Master Chief is not is Smash DLC. )” on 12/23/2018

3 Official Halo Twitter account response on ( 4/2/2019 ) to If you could bring any character in to Smash, who would it be?
a picture of Master Chief holding his helmet https://twitter.com/Halo/status/1113166542881951744

4 Official Halo instagram account shares ( Mario & Halo ) crossover artwork. https://www.instagram.com/p/CNkRuC6gtw2/

5 Official XBox France Tweet @XBoxFR ( A quand le masterchief dans supersmashbros ? )
@XBoxFR response = Il attend toujours son invitation… https://twitter.com/XboxFR/status/1311676187622748165

6 XBox Head Phil Spencer has had multiple interviews as of 07/11/2021 with a Nintendo Switch in the background and it means Microsoft is actually working very well with Nintendo.
6.1 via Co-Founder of http://XboxEra.com Nick "The cat seems to be out of the bag on Nintendo and Xbox. You'll hear more in the fall" https://twitter.com/Shpeshal_Nick/status/1380691678072238080?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

7 I think Master Chief will be a Game Awards announcement. Honestly He an Ahri are the only two I can think of who are the most deserving.

Reasons for believing in a fighters Pass 3​

1 As long as there’s an opportunity to make more fighters, Sakurai said he wants to push the record further. 11th Sep 2019
https://www.videogameschronicle.com/news/sakurai-no-way-future-smash-bros-games-will-have-as-many-fighters-as-ultimate/

2 Sakurai has a history of going back on his words for the fans. ( I.E. going back on no more after fighter’s pass 2 )

What Sakurai said about not including Ridley as a character in Super Smash Bros. 4 is most notable.

"if we made Ridley as a fighter, it wouldn’t be Ridley any longer," explained Sakurai. "It’d have to be shrunk down, or its wings reduced in size, or be unable to fly around freely. Providing accurate portrayals of characters is something I want to pay ample attention to.""Instead of going through a lot of very convoluted hocus-pocus to make Ridley a fighter, I figured it’d be better to keep Ridley as is, the correct way, & have it feel like a truly threatening presence." - Masahiro Sakurai

Shigeru Miyamoto at one time asked Sakurai if Pac-Man could be in Smash, back then Sakurai felt it was too farfetched.

Sakurai also noted Villager & the Miis status’ as being "unsuited for battle" as why they weren't included in SSBB. Rather, they'd be added to Super Smash Bros. 4's roster .

3 Nintendo is trying to grow an official Smash Ultimate competitive scene and therefore likely their client base

3.1 Nintendo announced a partnership with PlayVS to bring ( SSBU / Splatoon 2 ) e-sports leagues to 3,000 High schools
https://www.nintendo.com/whatsnew/detail/2021/nintendo-partners-with-playvs-to-bring-competitive-fun-to-high-school-varsity-athletics/

3.2 Nintendo will most likely in 2022 announce another partnership with PlayVS to bring SSBU e-sports leagues to Colleges
https://www.ginx.tv/en/smash-ultimate/nintendo-forces-playvs-to-drop-smash-ultimate-collegiate-league

3.3 Super Smash Bros Ultimate frequently draws high volumes of students and is the National Esports Association’s recommended event for gauging student interest in collegiate e-sports. https://www.nea.gg/collegiate-smash-series

4 How many DLC characters was really a decision up to ( Shuntaro Fuwakara Nintendo President as of 2018 ) and the other companies who agreed to give the licensing of their characters to ( Nintendo and Masahiro Sakurai. )

4.1 Sakurai only gets first right of refusal so, only a Nintendo ( CEO / President / other high level ) can rule out a fighter’s pass 3.

5 Nintendo is trying to redo their ( best year 2017 ) in 2022. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C7ffpzyd2JM&t=648s

Sakurai has said numerous times, FP11 will be it for Smash

 

[MasterCheef]

Sakurai has said numerous times, FP11 will be it for Smash

2 SSBU DLC seem to be going the same direction as SSB4. ( I.E. Sakurai going back on no more after fighter’s pass 2 )
http://nintendoeverything.com/sakurai-no-premium-smash-bros-dlc-currently-planned-more/ this article is from 2014

 

[Baba]

2 SSBU DLC seem to be going the same direction as SSB4. ( I.E. Sakurai going back on no more after fighter’s pass 2 )
http://nintendoeverything.com/sakurai-no-premium-smash-bros-dlc-currently-planned-more/ this article is from 2014

I really, really don't think people should be getting their hopes up for a FP3.
Even if they've gone back on their word in the past, it doesn't mean they'll do it again.

They've said that there is only 1 more fighter, so its best to expect 1 more fighter.

If we get anything else on top of that, it'll be a pleasant surprise.

Sakurai said "as long as there's an opportunity, we want to push it farther" TWO YEARS ago. They have been pushing it farther for years now. It has to stop eventually.

I'm not trying to be a downer, but I don't think people should be getting their hopes up for anything beyond fighter #82.

 

[SpectreJordan]

Dang discussion for Chief really died down after E3.
I hope we hear some new rumors or something soon. Its nice to have something to discuss.

Everything’s in the post E3 lull rn tbh. The Newcomer Speculation thread has been pretty boring this past week & Halo: Infinite news has dried out too.

Edit:

343 released this today. They’ve partnered up with a lot of Halo content creators to celebrate Master Chief & his 20th anniversary. I wonder if they’re doing that with anyone else; they even call him an industry icon in this article.

Master Class

<p>ISSUE 117 So, I’m pretty excited. And not just because the Tampa Bay Lightning just won back-to-back Stanley Cups. I’m excited about today’s edition of Canon Fodder—particularly with that legendary number we’ve now reached. In case you thought that rad seasonal content for Halo: The Master...

www.halowaypoint.com

 

[Sirfishe]

Everything’s in the post E3 lull rn tbh. The Newcomer Speculation thread has been pretty boring this past week & Halo: Infinite news has dried out too.
Edit:

343 released this today. They’ve partnered up with a lot of Halo content creators to celebrate Master Chief & his 20th anniversary. I wonder if they’re doing that with anyone else; they even call him an industry icon in this article.

Master Class

<p>ISSUE 117 So, I’m pretty excited. And not just because the Tampa Bay Lightning just won back-to-back Stanley Cups. I’m excited about today’s edition of Canon Fodder—particularly with that legendary number we’ve now reached. In case you thought that rad seasonal content for Halo: The Master...

www.halowaypoint.com

He is an industry icon. Probably the most popular icon that isnt in smash yet which is why I feel he has a good shot

 

[SpectreJordan]

He is an industry icon. Probably the most popular icon that isnt in smash yet which is why I feel he has a good shot

I feel he’s inevitable, it’s just a matter of when. I think there’s a chance that Nintendo/MS have already signed contracts so that Steve & Banjo come back for the next game with Master Chief being the big newcomer for that game.

That seems to be what happened for Cloud. They got him for Smash 4, while making sure he got in Ultimate along with Hero/Sephiroth.

 

[Sirfishe]

I feel he’s inevitable, it’s just a matter of when. I think there’s a chance that Nintendo/MS have already signed contracts so that Steve & Banjo come back for the next game with Master Chief being the big newcomer for that game.

That seems to be what happened for Cloud. They got him for Smash 4, while making sure he got in Ultimate along with Hero/Sephiroth.

What if the reason why steve took so long was because Microsoft wanted all those 3 characters in the game together? Chief, banjo and steve. I call it the holy trinity.

In terms of gaming icons I cant think of any other fighter. The ones I can think of are scorpion and lara croft. Sora and crash are cool but they're nowhere on the level halo was on

 

[ZealousGamer]

I would say that Marcus Fenix is 2nd to Chief in terms of importance.

 

[Lionfranky]

I would say that Marcus Fenix is 2nd to Chief in terms of importance.

That's only for Xbox roster.

I feel he’s inevitable, it’s just a matter of when. I think there’s a chance that Nintendo/MS have already signed contracts so that Steve & Banjo come back for the next game with Master Chief being the big newcomer for that game.

That seems to be what happened for Cloud. They got him for Smash 4, while making sure he got in Ultimate along with Hero/Sephiroth.

With how close MS and Nintendo have been, I agree that it's pretty inevitable. But, I wouldn't blame them if they want to save Chief for later Smash installment. But who knows? They may not have thought that far ahead.

 

[ZealousGamer]

My point was referring to Sirfishe comment about a "holy trinity".

 

[Lionfranky]

My point was referring to Sirfishe comment about a "holy trinity".

Ah sorry about misunderstanding. It was hard for me to determine which part you were referring.

 

[ZealousGamer]

It's OK. It happens.

 

[SpectreJordan]

What if the reason why steve took so long was because Microsoft wanted all those 3 characters in the game together? Chief, banjo and steve. I call it the holy trinity.

In terms of gaming icons I cant think of any other fighter. The ones I can think of are scorpion and lara croft. Sora and crash are cool but they're nowhere on the level halo was on

That's only for Xbox roster.


With how close MS and Nintendo have been, I agree that it's pretty inevitable. But, I wouldn't blame them if they want to save Chief for later Smash installment. But who knows? They may not have thought that far ahead.

Here’s hoping they just said screw it & are putting him in now.

 

[Lionfranky]

Head of Xbox Phil Spencer Finally Explains Why He Has A Nintendo Switch on His Shelf

Interesting... I still believe there is more to Switch than what he revealed here.

 

[Sirfishe]

chief looks good next to samus

 

[Baba]

Head of Xbox Phil Spencer Finally Explains Why He Has A Nintendo Switch on His Shelf

Interesting... I still believe there is more to Switch than what he revealed here.

Yeah I was kind of disappointed when I read this. I'm hoping he's just deflecting the question until later.
I still think something is up between the two companies, but its probably good to temper our expectations a bit.

 

[Lionfranky]

Yeah I was kind of disappointed when I read this. I'm hoping he's just deflecting the question until later.
I still think something is up between the two companies, but its probably good to temper our expectations a bit.

Of course, I will keep my expectation in check. Still, MS still put Switch in Gamestack event.
It's just wait and see.