Gea
Smash Master
Lately... playing Mario has been more fun to me than Doc
*sobs*
I need help. SOMEBODY HELP ME PLEASE!
*sobs*
I need help. SOMEBODY HELP ME PLEASE!
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I...I have a confession
- Thread starter Gea
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Blunted_object10
Smash Master
stop playing Mario Doc is better GG NO RE.
Yomi-no-Kuni
Smash Lord
mario sucks, compare his fair to Docs...
docs is just WAY cooler
play doc!
docs is just WAY cooler
play doc!
Gea, I understand this must be a traumatic time, but just remember, Doc still loves you. It's natural for humans to err, and to make the mistake of turning away from Doc to worship false idols, but there is still hope. For Doc is a compassionate and forgiving character.
i ... dont really see what's wrong with playin mario.
Like i always say, it's basically the same thing.
Hell, i play mario alot (cause i used to main mario), and i've ALWAYS had more fun with mario than doc.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gRUKJQYrUH4
0:42 is exactly why mario is soooo much more fun than doc.
F.air -> f.air -> f.air -> f.air -> f.air -> f.air combo = raw.
Yes, 6 fairs, and yes, i did that on somebody who was BREATHING, and yes i've done it to more than one person (most i've done was 11) >.>
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Felt like adding 10 more cents.
Doc, imo, is one of the most boring characters to play in the game.
Why? Because he has no kool, flashy gimmicks.
He has no kool glitches or advanced tech
And comboing with doc is ******** (mainly because, unlike Mario's U.Tilt, doc's is a piece of garbage).
I literally have more fun playin Zelda than I do playin Doc. Atleast Zelda has a kool *** cheer. I DONT EVEN REMEMBER WHAT DOC'S IS OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD. >.>
...(looks around)
--Zelda Zelda hooh! Zelda Zelda hooh!--
Like i always say, it's basically the same thing.
Hell, i play mario alot (cause i used to main mario), and i've ALWAYS had more fun with mario than doc.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gRUKJQYrUH4
0:42 is exactly why mario is soooo much more fun than doc.
F.air -> f.air -> f.air -> f.air -> f.air -> f.air combo = raw.
Yes, 6 fairs, and yes, i did that on somebody who was BREATHING, and yes i've done it to more than one person (most i've done was 11) >.>
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Felt like adding 10 more cents.
Doc, imo, is one of the most boring characters to play in the game.
Why? Because he has no kool, flashy gimmicks.
He has no kool glitches or advanced tech
And comboing with doc is ******** (mainly because, unlike Mario's U.Tilt, doc's is a piece of garbage).
I literally have more fun playin Zelda than I do playin Doc. Atleast Zelda has a kool *** cheer. I DONT EVEN REMEMBER WHAT DOC'S IS OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD. >.>
...(looks around)
--Zelda Zelda hooh! Zelda Zelda hooh!--
boss8
Smash Hero
play both...
onii-chan
Smash Ace
Infindels!!!!!! dont worry DOC will forgive! (dogy ur right mario is funnier but doc *****!)
Gea
Smash Master
Yeah, I know <3
When it comes down to do or die I find myself trusting in my Doc much more but ****, Mario just feels aerobatic to me. I can't explain it.
When it comes down to do or die I find myself trusting in my Doc much more but ****, Mario just feels aerobatic to me. I can't explain it.
^because he is? he's better at comboing, flows, and has less lag off aerial attacks. His F-smash is a real attack (<_< I can never use doc's and hit) and he's fun.
I still have trouble comboing so I don't like him as much, but I can see why better players than me would prefer him.
As long as you still use doc, meh ^_^
I use everyone as much as possible, so I can't condemn you really
I still have trouble comboing so I don't like him as much, but I can see why better players than me would prefer him.
As long as you still use doc, meh ^_^
I use everyone as much as possible, so I can't condemn you really
Endless Nightmares
Smash Master
haha you're not the only one. I find Mario to be more fun but I enjoy playing Doc more (if that makes sense). Mario just doesn't have that Raw power that I'm looking for. But his combos are more fun. I play Mario almost exactly like I play Doc, instead of how a true Mario main would play him. Sometimes I forget that dthrow -> fair doesn't work anymore so I just techchase dsmash really quick lol
Even though I main Doc, I'm much better with Mario in doubles for some reason. A lot of times, especially on Dreamland, I survive past 150% in teams with Mario.
Even though I main Doc, I'm much better with Mario in doubles for some reason. A lot of times, especially on Dreamland, I survive past 150% in teams with Mario.
Gea
Smash Master
More like you play Doc like Game and Watch.
PDOT
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Yomi-no-Kuni
Smash Lord
LOL @ 56K´s sig
see Gea that´s why doc is cooler
mario is a poor plumber
doc is a .... doc...
he´s rich
just take Bob$ ... even if you play him you become richer XD
see Gea that´s why doc is cooler
mario is a poor plumber
doc is a .... doc...
he´s rich
just take Bob$ ... even if you play him you become richer XD
Endless Nightmares
Smash Master
Pyrostormer
Smash Lord
I agree. I trust my Doc more, but I play my secondary, Ganondorf, more than Doc.
Gea
Smash Master
Aww 56K.
You know the ironic part is I went to E for All and didn't even like the new Mario really.
You know the ironic part is I went to E for All and didn't even like the new Mario really.
Insane-Contrast
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How can it be too late? Fox is gonna be in Brawl! More like, join Mewtwo before it's too late!
Desh.
Smash Lord
Psychoace
Smash Champion
GOOOOOO DOC!
abit_rusty
Smash Lord
Agree with 56k. I can combo much better with Mario, but I want someone who can finish the opponent better. Doc's the way to go.
Also I love doc's up-tilt for throwing off the opponent's flow. I sometimes use it to intercept side-b recovery from spacies.
Also I love doc's up-tilt for throwing off the opponent's flow. I sometimes use it to intercept side-b recovery from spacies.
-PM-
Smash Ace
im better with mario... but i win more with doc... =[
YangKang
Smash Apprentice
Holy **** you got an amazing mario now pick brown as color and we got a new Brown Mario lol seriously you should record more of your mario
f.air -> f.air -> f.air -> f.air -> f.air -> f.air -> etc. is the greatest combo ever that should never work.
That combo alone puts mario > doc imo. >.>
That combo alone puts mario > doc imo. >.>
oddgloat
Smash Cadet
I have a lot more fun playing Mario too. I think it's because he's faster 
ya know. i want somebody to prove to me that mario is indeed faster than doc.
Cause, if i remember the frame data right; mario's u.air can be l-cancelled about 2 frames faster, but one of doc's tilts ends faster than marios.
Other than that, unless im on crack; their frame data is exactly the same. >.>
Cause, if i remember the frame data right; mario's u.air can be l-cancelled about 2 frames faster, but one of doc's tilts ends faster than marios.
Other than that, unless im on crack; their frame data is exactly the same. >.>
RyNo 86
Smash Journeyman
I think mario is better for using in doubles. He can rack up the damage really well, my partner uses ganon so he cancels out my lacking a kill move.
Gea
Smash Master
The opposite is true. Mario is better at stock tanking but using Mario's recovery to the fullest takes a long time, unfortunately.
Doc can do damage just as well and has more kill moves and a better bair for it. Though if you are teaming with a Ganon, Mario is fine.
oddgloat
Smash Cadet
I know
Sure seems like Mario is faster tho, doesn't it? Tight song in that vid, by the way.
If you ask me, they're both about the same in the tank department. Since they both have the same weight, both of their DIs are the same, meaning they can live just as long as each other.
The Mew2King Statistic List said:
As for KOability, i say that comes down to preference, like always. Sure Doc has his f.air, but mario's f.smash is longer; long enough to make a difference in spacing.
Projectiles? Eh, it's like always; what you like. I like pills cause i main doc, and that's what i know how to use; but you cant convince me that they're any better or worse than fireballs. It's just having to get used to trajectory.
And who you're teaming with shouldnt matter, unless you do dual docs --glares at $mac--
I know
Honestly, it doesnt to me. I think it's one of those "psycological things" that became a standard because most of the big name mario players are "flashier" and "faster" than the doc players; mainly because mario has better setups for combos (u.tilt, f.air on grounded opponent).
After looking at Mario's Frame Data and Doc's Frame Data for a while, i've only been able to find small, SMALL differences.
Yeah, if you look at that data, specifically the aerials, you'll note that Mario is generally 1 frame or 2 faster than doc (which, technicallY DOES make him faster); i cant count frames.
1 or 2 frames doesnt really effect me that much (i think).
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And that song was Daydreamin' By Lupe Fiasco
Speedsk8er
Smash Champion
Am I wrong for finding it easier to combo with Doc than Mario? Especially U air juggles. I find myself not having to worry about spacing as well as Mario. For the most part, I see Doc's aerials as better. Bair has better trajectory, Dair seems less DIable. Nair has the viagra hitbox and Fair KOs better. I also find the different hitboxes for his Utilt. His Dtilt is hot stuff. Nothing's funnier than Dtilt "spiking" someone with Doc.
Of course, I use MArio more because I like his Bizarro costume.
Of course, I use MArio more because I like his Bizarro costume.
Endless Nightmares
Smash Master
BUT! Mario's recovery is better
I survive much longer w/Mario in teams than with Doc, and I blame that on recovery.I can definitely notice the difference in frames between Doc and Mario's moves, but yeah it doesn't really make a difference in combos or the eventual outcome when you attempt the move. Since I play Doc more than Mario, when I switch to Mario it throws me off a tiny bit when I activate Move A and it hits a little sooner than expected. I just have a certain timing...
CHAOSDRAGON88
Smash Ace
They should just give doc's power to mario and call it even.
I cant argue with the comboing, because my u.air department is garbage.
I can argue one thing in there, though; and that's the nair. Yes, Doc's n.air has the "viagra" effect (god i think that's a dumb term for it. >.>), and mario's doesnt.
... but mario's doesnt. That means, when you do the n.air, it's going to be consistant from beginning to end. Most people say that's bad compared to doc's, but think of something. How practical is it to hang a n.air out and hit with the later part of it? Not very; because it's unsafe. Not saying that you shouldnt, and not saying that it's a bad idea, but it's not like doc's n.air is a god-tier nair like samus'.
The only arguement i can really make about comboing with mario and comboing with doc is that Mario's u.tilt is god tier (like i always say. >.>)BUT! Mario's recovery is better
I can definitely notice the difference in frames between Doc and Mario's moves, but yeah it doesn't really make a difference in combos or the eventual outcome when you attempt the move. Since I play Doc more than Mario, when I switch to Mario it throws me off a tiny bit when I activate Move A and it hits a little sooner than expected. I just have a certain timing...
If mario hits somebody with his u.tilt, they go up. Period.
Doc's? Hits them up if they're above him, but sends them out if they're in front of him. Therefore, doc has to use all of the other setups (d.throw/u.throw, u.smash, u.air)
Endless Nightmares
Smash Master
Also, I find it possible to combo with Doc's uair almost as easily as I could with Mario's. You just have to perform the move a bit differently than you might expect, expecially if you're used to comboing with mario's uair. With Doc, try to hit them with a SHFFL'd uair as you're on your way up. It also helps if you're moving fast horizontally so you can follow up easier.
onii-chan
Smash Ace
-PM-
Smash Ace
well the main part is the fact that doc is just stronger in the long run i play mario alot and it is VERY annoying to beat some characters where doc destroys them IMO i think mario is BETTER on fastfallers just because of his long combos you can do but for floaters doc is a much better choice since you cant combo them anyway well you can barley combo them
Gea
Smash Master
I go double Doc in teams as well. Too good.
And uhhh Dogy weight aside Mario lives longer, especially in teams where edgeguarding effectively is so much harder.
You could see it as the fsmash having more range (it does) but in teams it is also easier to get Doc's fsmash in. This is just my doubles experience trying to play both of them.
And uhhh Dogy weight aside Mario lives longer, especially in teams where edgeguarding effectively is so much harder.
You could see it as the fsmash having more range (it does) but in teams it is also easier to get Doc's fsmash in. This is just my doubles experience trying to play both of them.
-PM-
Smash Ace
yea doc is better in doubles hes a good well rounded character that doesnt kill teammates often