I haven't looked at some statistics yet...

[FaWa]

I remember that in Melee, Rest was the hardest hitting non charged move. Is this correct for Brawl? Just so I can be sure.

 

[illinialex24]

I remember that in Melee, Rest was the hardest hitting non charged move. Is this correct for Brawl? Just so I can be sure.

Not even close. Rest is weak in Brawl.

 

[Miles.]

rest kills ddd at 120.


....how is that weak?

 

[illinialex24]

rest kills ddd at 120.


....how is that weak?

Because so many other moves kill DDD at like 100%, or even 90%

 

[*JuriHan*]

rest kills ddd at 120.


....how is that weak?

joke post? That's terrible!

 

[Maniclysane]

I think with DI, rest doesn't even kill D3 at 120

 

[illinialex24]

I think with DI, rest doesn't even kill D3 at 120

No cause without DI it kills him at 83%....

 

[M-WUZ-H3R3]

What was sakurai thinking nerfing rest?

Jigglypuff wasn't anywhere close to broken, so why was she nerfed?

 

[ffdgh]

Bring bak teh epic rest (event match 51 made easy.)

heck make it flame and flower XD

 

[Metatitan]

What was sakurai thinking nerfing rest?

Jigglypuff wasn't anywhere close to broken, so why was she nerfed?

Sakurai hates jigglypuff. That's why he set out to make her one of the three worst characters in the game. If it weren't for her recovery she'd probably be about as useless as ganondorf. The funny thing is it took him 3 games to make her completely **** LOL.

 

[hichez50]

What was sakurai thinking nerfing rest?

Jigglypuff wasn't anywhere close to broken, so why was she nerfed?

Jigglypuff stayed exactly the same from in melee. Thats the reason she got nerfed. She didn't get any upgrades to coop with the new physics engine.

 

[*JuriHan*]

Jigglypuff stayed exactly the same from in melee. Thats the reason she got nerfed. She didn't get any upgrades to coop with the new physics engine.

melee jiggz had a ground game. Brawl jiggz has start up frames up the *** on all smash attacks. F-air, rollout, u-tilt and dash attack aside, she got nerfed in nearly every way possible.

 

[Miles.]

Because so many other moves kill DDD at like 100%, or even 90%

Jigglypuff moves? Oh really?

Fresh Fair MAaaaybeee if you aree off level.

But other than that what does?

Killing DDD at 120 is legit. Hes fat as hella.

 

[*JuriHan*]

Jigglypuff moves? Oh really?

Fresh Fair MAaaaybeee if you aree off level.

But other than that what does?

Killing DDD at 120 is legit. Hes fat as hella.

now I'm starting to think you're trolling.

 

[Miles.]

now I'm starting to think you're trolling.

Nope.

Jigz is my second main. I play her in tourney and win with her soo I am really familiar with the character so please list ALL these moves that KO so much better please.

=)

Also I am being very civil and I am actually referencing things.

you are being vague and ambiguous.

 

[DemonFart]

Rest is pretty good for a Jigglypuff move as it kills earlier then most of her others. But when compared to other characters moves, rest isn't so good anymore as it was in...melee. Also, there are other moves that have equal killing power or even more killing power then rest, the difference being that they don't have such risk.

That aside, rest isn't horrible.

 

[mountain_tiger]

Rest may be much weaker than in Melee, but it still kills Mario at around 75%, which I'd say isn't too shabby for a move that comes out in one frame. Of course, you have to be extra careful about when you use it due to ending lag, but then you had to be careful of when to use it in Melee as well surely? FSmash kills almost as well as Rest, but that's slow as **** so it doesn't count. Fair kills at around 120%, as long as you haven't staled it. And on the plus side, if it does kill, you don't have the problem of them respawning fats enough to attack you while you're asleep.

tl;dr Rest is weaker, but it does have its uses still.

 

[Miles.]

this is brawl not melee.

yes it isnt melee rest that killed at 40.


killing DDD at 120 is hella legit.

 

[PND]

I pretty much play without rest. Unless I'm in friendlies, it's too risky.

 

[Metatitan]

I pretty much play without rest. Unless I'm in friendlies, it's too risky.

You may as well use rest. I mean you're using jigglypuff in tourny, that's risky enough as it is.

 

[Cold Fusion]

You may as well use rest. I mean you're using jigglypuff in tourny, that's risky enough as it is.

Using rest makes it even riskier.

 

[Metatitan]

Using rest makes it even riskier.

Not if you use it smartly.

 

[Cold Fusion]

Not if you use it smartly.

Like interrupting multi-hit attacks with rest. Or punishing super high lag attacks like Ganon's punch.

 

[Miles.]

dont miss.

its the same as in melee.

 

[r3d d09]

As i keep picking up jiggz more and more, basically my main now, I land a few rests during a game, I even use it at low percentages, what this does for me is that i can fake rest and trick then, they shield and i abuse it. I'm no pro with jiggz. I just have mind games that the locals have a hard time cooping with.

jiggz ftw, even with the weak(er) rest.