I have one question

[Black Flash]

Nm. Fixed

 

[mathos]

Mic_128: Really I'm just being an ***, because people are saying how X-men Discussion shouldn't be in the Midwest Forum, likewise an Ask The Mods thread shouldn't belong in the Australia Forums.

And I'm glad to hear we are allowed to have Regional Pool Rooms. Thats really what all spam threads are about anyway.

And spam is not a problem solely within the Midwest, although we take it to the extreme by cctions taken yesterday.

 

[Mic_128]

Mic_128: Really I'm just being an ***, because people are saying how X-men Discussion shouldn't be in the Midwest Forum, likewise an Ask The Mods thread shouldn't belong in the Australia Forums.

You're honestly saying that a topic about something unrelated to Smash that belongs in another room...is the same as a topic for people in the Aussie room to post if they want a topic stickied/unstickied/ect?

 

[Warrior of Zarona]

Really, the only thing that's bothering people here is the fact that we have extra mods here. The Midwest board is fine with just Kish. That's it, we can live with Kish as our mod. He's cool.

Let us be autonomous.

It can't be helped if someone like FDV or Omnigamer comes around and sees rules being broken. They're Super Moderators, meaning that their powers are essentially global throughout the entire site. Omni edit: Omni is not an SMod >_>;

I mod Atlantic North myself, so I know exactly what it's like to be part of the regional community. But I also know that random things like the X-Men thread don't belong in here, and the EC community respects that and goes off elsewhere to discuss these things.

 

[Fastest]

So, my understanding of the situation is that we're under a tyrannical leadership of antisocial moderators who don't attend tournaments, or even live in the Midwest.

Albeit like the American government, where rich businessmen hold political power, and are entirely non sympathetic towards the poor people they represent.

There's absolutely no way to get a Midwest pool room huh?

 

[Mic_128]

So, my understanding of the situation is that we're under a tyrannical leadership of antisocial moderators who don't attend tournaments, or even live in the Midwest.

I know, it's almost like there's people other than you in places that aren't where you are. Shocking.

There's absolutely no way to get a Midwest pool room huh?

Post in the Questions and Suggestions thread stickied in the Pool Room.

 

[Fastest]

I know, it's almost like there's people other than you in places that aren't where you are. Shocking.

Post in the Questions and Suggestions thread stickied in the Pool Room.

Cute.

"Midwest Pool Room" not being specifically a sub forum under the "Pool Room". I don't go near that ****hole at all. Rather, a sub forum underneath the Midwest forum.

 

[Warrior of Zarona]

Keep in mind, Fastest - even if you're from the Midwest, you're posting on the smashboards website, which allows users to use the forums as long as you adhere to the rules.

There's nothing tyrannical about what we're doing, and I'm sorry if you choose to see it that way. However, as Mic, myself, and other moderators have been saying, this is the only community that has a problem with it because they aren't free to spam.

I mean, you really don't see anything wrong with that? And then you call us antisocial? It's not our fault if you didn't know who FDV was, especially if you stay in the Midwest forums all day. I happen to deal with people from around the country - it's a lot more for those who stay in one region and choose to lock themselves off from the rest of the world.

If you want to spam, honestly, there are other places you can do it. Please go and do it there.

 

[Fastest]

I don't see anything wrong with non-smash related topics, no. As I have said before, they strengthen the bonds between the community members. I can't tell you how many times an off-topic smash/internet related meme has come up in conversation during a tournament. We don't expect you to understand this- as you don't live in the Midwest or attend tournaments to experience this.

Recent events that have forced you to recognize the Midwest's unique affinity towards spam. So, I don't understand why you're trying to kill the behavior rather than compromise and let us flourish.

All problems would disappear if a sub forum were added to the Midwest. A place where Jiano can post youtube videos all day with no fear of 13 year old kids from California discussing their favorite pokemon.

 

[Warrior of Zarona]

I don't see anything wrong with non-smash related topics, no. As I have said before, they strengthen the bonds between the community members. I can't tell you how many times an off-topic smash/internet related meme has come up in conversation during a tournament. We don't expect you to understand this- as you don't live in the Midwest or attend tournaments to experience this.

Recent events that have forced you to recognize the Midwest's unique affinity towards spam. So, I don't understand why you're trying to kill the behavior rather than compromise and let us flourish. All problems would disappear if a sub forum were added to the Midwest.

Oh trust me, I completely understand. I know all about the meme's, and they come up in Atlantic North as well. It's actually quite silly that you're calling it a "Midwest" thing - I've seen everything you've done in other places. We don't mind if threads get derailed a bit and go off in a tangent before it locks back into topic.

But we don't encourage creating threads for that sole purpose, especially when a multitude of them pop up.

 

[Fastest]

Oh trust me, I completely understand. I know all about the meme's, and they come up in Atlantic North as well. It's actually quite silly that you're calling it a "Midwest" thing - I've seen everything you've done in other places. We don't mind if threads get derailed a bit and go off in a tangent before it locks back into topic.

But we don't encourage creating threads for that sole purpose, especially when a multitude of them pop up.

Well, perhaps then you're the one moderator who actually plays smash brothers. I retract my statement about not understanding in regards to you.

 

[Anther]

Couple weeks is a long time to be banned... Especially for a petty rule that they're getting multiple "warnings" for at one period of time..

I think unbanning now and leaving them with a single warning makes a bit more sense.

 

[Warrior of Zarona]

Of course I play SSBM. I run one of the biggest crews in the EC, and I play an active part of the community. You should probably click on my TSA tag and see all sorts of messes we get into.

*ahem*

We're not trying to ruin your behavior or anything. Actually, a community having it's own charm is one of the perks we wanted to have when Regional Zones was created.

Just try to do it while following the rules, you know?

I'll say it again.

We don't mind as much if threads get derailed a bit and it goes a little nutty. My own crew thread, as well as a lot of threads in Atlantic North, are guilty of that. We're all very silly ourselves.

But as a mod, I can't really condone to having things being dedicated to that in one thread. It makes the forum and website look bad, and it makes me look bad for not making it look like I'm doing my job. In that respect, it makes KishPrime look bad here as well.

 

[Plairnkk]

Oh trust me, I completely understand. I know all about the meme's, and they come up in Atlantic North as well. It's actually quite silly that you're calling it a "Midwest" thing - I've seen everything you've done in other places. We don't mind if threads get derailed a bit and go off in a tangent before it locks back into topic.

But we don't encourage creating threads for that sole purpose, especially when a multitude of them pop up.

Isn't it harder to sift through a thread to actually find what you want to find through the spam than it is to simply click on the thread, if threads like we make were allowed elsewhere? Seems a bit backwards to me.

 

[mathos]

You're honestly saying that a topic about something unrelated to Smash that belongs in another room...is the same as a topic for people in the Aussie room to post if they want a topic stickied/unstickied/ect?

There is no way to infer that from what has been posted from anyone in that thread.

Back to the original topic; This whole situation is way out of control. I'm sorry for the responses that have come from these events and I am ashamed of this altercation.

 

[Warrior of Zarona]

Isn't it harder to sift through a thread to actually find what you want to find through the spam than it is to simply click on the thread, if threads like we make were allowed elsewhere? Seems a bit backwards to me.

That's what the other rooms are for.

 

[AlphaZealot]

I'm probably more lenient than most mods, when I see a thread that doesn't belong and break the rules I'll close it, but its only 50/50 whether or not I warn the user, it depends how childish/annoying/vulgar/disruptive/rude/pornographic the thread is.

 

[Warrior of Zarona]

I know that this outburst really wouldn't have happened if the thread was simply closed with a warning post, instead of every single post being given infractions. I'll be honest to say that it was a bit harsh.

With that said, a couple of weeks will go by faster than you think.

 

[Sliq]

I HEARD WOZ PUNCHES ORPHANS AND VOTED YES FOR CANCER.

I'm going to make my own forum! With hookers...and blackjack...on second thought, screw the forum.

Can I get a mod to ban me? That way, all the chicks will be like, hey isn't that Sliq? Isn't he the badass mutha ****ah that got banned from SWF? I heard he Dragon Spin Kicked Mic_128 right in his html! I heard he lasso'd the sun and rammed it right into WoZ's internet, destroying it in a flaming maelstrom of justice! LET'S MAKE SUPER SPECIAL AWESOME SEX WITH HIM!

OOOOOHHHHHH YEEEEAAAAAHHHHHH!

 

[51drifty]

ITT: mods try to defend the indefensible with logic as strong as a kindergardener's shoelace job.

 

[AOB]

The mods seem to have no problem with Trashman's pool-room thread, and something tells me that if a spam topic pops up once in a while, it won't be a big deal. Why are we not satisfied with that? We were never in the habit (until a few days ago) of making bunches of spam topics, and no, we don't need them. You have to admit that the spam topics got way out of hand--ESPECIALLY after the bannings. It was stupid.

That's not to say that I agree with the punishments. I think they were way too harsh.

 

[51drifty]

The mods seem to have no problem with Trashman's pool-room thread, and something tells me that if a spam topic pops up once in a while, it won't be a big deal. Why are we not satisfied with that? We were never in the habit (until a few days ago) of making bunches of spam topics, and no, we don't need them. You have to admit that the spam topics got way out of hand--ESPECIALLY after the bannings. It was stupid.

That's not to say that I agree with the punishments. I think they were way too harsh.

this si why people hate you. you always are the devil's advocate for no reason. just admit mods = faigs and join the mw for once instead of being the little ao***** you always are.

 

[mathos]

We were never in the habit (until a few days ago) of making bunches of spam topics, and no, we don't need them. You have to admit that the spam topics got way out of hand--ESPECIALLY after the bannings.

That's not to say that I agree with the punishments. I think they were way too harsh.

AOB comes in and becomes God!

 

[Sliq]

ITT: mods try to defend the indefensible with logic as strong as a kindergardener's shoelace job.

 

[51drifty]

also anyone notice how ao***** only comes out of hiding from teh community to disagree with the midwest as a whole?

 

[Sliq]

this si why people hate you. you always are the devil's advocate for no reason. just admit mods = faigs and join the mw for once instead of being the little ao***** you always are.

also anyone notice how ao***** only comes out of hiding from teh community to disagree with the midwest as a whole?

 

[51drifty]

ya im deciding right now aob go back to your cave where the elderly are put to die.

 

[Drephen]

Look, im still pissed off on why Jiano got randomly targeted out of everybody? Like if you look back in the thread, the tournament creator and other people that posted didnt get warned.

Is it because FDV is a horrible moderator that thinks "Ive seen Jiano's name before, i should TEACH HIM A LESSON CAUSE I AM A MOD AND THEREFORE AND BETTER THAN HIM MORALLY" or cause he gets owned by drephiano<----http://youtube.com/watch?v=O3vkWBYZU7M

I mean whats the point of a warning if you are gonna do it 8 times before the person even sees it once? Takes the point out of the word warning doesnt it? Why would you just go straight to banning people? Sounds like more poor moderating jobs from FDV. Kid should seriously stick to the art room. He knows nothing about the smash community or the tournament scene and therefore shouldnt make any decisions reguarding the matter. HOW THE HELL DID HE BECOME A SUPER MODERATOR ANYWAYS? CAUSE HE CAN DRAW PICTURES GOOD? If he isnt active in all areas then he should only be assigned to the ones he is active in.

You guys should really answer DrewBOO8's questions, he asking a lot of good ones that you need to respond to

I would really like to hear from FDV himself, because hes the one that started this whole mess

 

[51drifty]

lol drephen they did answer it. they answered it by saying "no we are right because we said so". sounds to me like more unwarranted mod elitism. i have an idea that ive been a proponent of for a year or more now. how about mods be people who actually play the game? or at least go to tournaments? im perfectly fine (well.....close to it) with kishprime being a mod because at least he knows the community and partakes in it somewhat. AND THAT MEANS ALOT COMING FROM 5150. i mean ya there are better choices than prime cuz he doesnt travel outside of south bend but hes better than ****ing fdv/mic128/insert other mod here.

 

[Fortress | Sveet]

what i dont get is why the mods are being such *****es. we have been more than willing to appologize and try to go halfway to solve this problem and all they do is "JOO BROKED ZE RUELZ". i know for a FACT that making a sub forum for the midwest pool room would take all of 30 seconds to make. hell, it will take away from a lot of the fun of seeing the cool topics with the tournament topics, but see were going halfway. can someone point out somewhere where a mod left the rule page, and actually tried to solve this?

 

[McLovin]

You're honestly saying that a topic about something unrelated to Smash that belongs in another room...is the same as a topic for people in the Aussie room to post if they want a topic stickied/unstickied/ect?

from what i understand asking mods a question should only be done so in a Private Message.

 

[Fortress | Sveet]

Isn't it harder to sift through a thread to actually find what you want to find through the spam than it is to simply click on the thread, if threads like we make were allowed elsewhere? Seems a bit backwards to me.

hmm.... mods dodged this one.

 

[Omnigamer]

what i dont get is why the mods are being such *****es. we have been more than willing to appologize and try to go halfway to solve this problem and all they do is "JOO BROKED ZE RUELZ". i know for a FACT that making a sub forum for the midwest pool room would take all of 30 seconds to make. hell, it will take away from a lot of the fun of seeing the cool topics with the tournament topics, but see were going halfway. can someone point out somewhere where a mod left the rule page, and actually tried to solve this?

You know it for a fact through experience, right?

Show me where the main current spammers have attempted to apologize for their actions. We're trying to work out a solution that everybody can agree to, but piling thread upon thread and post upon post of more spam isn't making it go any faster.

Also, if you'd look through this thread, you'd see that we mods are trying to reason this out outside of the rules. All of this will be resolved before long, so please be patient.

 

[AOB]

Rick, I said at the end of my post that the punishments were way too harsh. It does not make sense to pop in and ban people like that. Maybe I should have put it in all caps and put a stupid picture to go with it and ranted on and on and on, but you guys are doing a great job of that already.

But why do we suddenly feel like we have a right to make spam topics all over the place? Where did that come from? Explain that to me. This board is provided for you free of charge, and you're indignant because there are rules.

Thank god there is someone like Mathos who knows how to calmly discuss things with the mods instead of flying off the handle. If everyone acted like you, Rick, no one would ever get what they want. They'd just get banned.

 

[Fortress | Sveet]

You know it for a fact through experience, right?

Show me where the main current spammers have attempted to apologize for their actions. We're trying to work out a solution that everybody can agree to, but piling thread upon thread and post upon post of more spam isn't making it go any faster.

Also, if you'd look through this thread, you'd see that we mods are trying to reason this out outside of the rules. All of this will be resolved before long, so please be patient.

yes i know from experience.

i dont know about the "current spammers" but i know many of the people who started it have apologized for getting out of hand and caught up in the moment.

and i have read this entire thread, and i have seen nothing but two points of view and the mods doing nothing but say things like "those are the rules its your fault" "its only a temp ban, a few weeks will go by fast" ect. the point of the matter is, this is the midwest zone. the midwest wants these topics. but for some reason mods from out of area and out of the smash community want to come in here and tell us that we cant have them. we have tried to compromise but you guys are just saying "my way or the highway". its **** like that that keeps the spam coming.

 

[Warrior of Zarona]

Yes Sveet. Because you're posting on the smashboards website. It doesn't matter what region you're from.

If you guys want your own personal forum to spam, I suggest you make it yourselves.

 

[KishPrime]

We actually have a Midwest Forum, WITH a SPAM THREAD that I suggested we create.

 

[Sliq]

We actually have a Midwest Forum, WITH a SPAM THREAD that I suggested we create.

I was going to suggest this, but not everyone has an account there, and it needs to but OK'd (otherwise coast fiends would steal our secrats!).

 

[DrewB008]

the original spammers can't apologize, because they got banned.

the spammers from yesterday only started spamming because every thread that people created to discuss the matter politely was closed, mathos made a thread in the forum dispute section but from what i hear that didnt get enough attention either. we took an action that demanded attention, and now we're having a civil conversation now that you understand that we wont accept people ignoring it. so the spammers from yesterday dont need to apologize, in my opinion.

edit: this really isnt meant as an insult, but is something ive wondered for a while. if youre going to just discuss artwork and stuff non smash related, why would you choose to do it on smashboards?

 

[takieddine]

Threads that i've personally read (in the EC) are full of "spam".

WOZ: you yourself participated in this so called "spam".