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Ummm, did you bother reading the huge quote by M3D??? It sorta explains why they opted against wireless controls and I GUARANTEE they put more thought into it than you did.
Your parents would let you go to MLG but not let you order a controller online? That doesn't make any sense. Why not pay a friend to order it for you or something? Surely you aren't as trapped as you think you are.
MLG is bad because they basically set standard outside of their setting and these people try to spread that kind of idealism to other people who refuse to accept it because they don't want to.
So by trying to minimize interference and not have any unneeded delays due to syncing wii motes and other controllers constantly, they are somehow spreading a bad idealism?
i wondered the same thing myself. Like you said, they are leading the most successful string of tournaments in the US, so obviously they're doing something right.
I agree with you MR. I don't see how that's a problem. All they are doing is cutting down time wasters. What's so wrong with that?MookieRah; said:
Mookie, you missed my entire point. I wasn't talking about controllers, I was talking about the main rules etc. Some people don't like those which is the majority. I would say 70-30, being the minority but I know thats probably wrong. Some of the minority tries to basically force the rules on other people. If online play is going to be this way, consider it dead before it even began, because good players will play with the Tournament idealism.
I have to say this even as a casual, we don't even know how much rules and customization will be around on the Wifi. So it's a little pre-empthieve to say that.
Expanding on what I said earlier: MLG didn't come to this decision lightly. I'm dead certain that they wanted to avoid this if at all possible. When you are in their position though, you have to make some really hard decisions that some people just won't like, but they are doing it for the better good. I don't think they want to take a risk by allowing them one tournament to try it out just to find out that their fears are confirmed. In both Halo and smash, a millisecond of interference at the wrong time could totally ruin you. They also run the risk of going over the time allotted due to people and controller problems. This is bound to happen, as I have witnessed it many times through the small amount of wiis I've come in contact with.
Sorry, I assumed that cause this thread was about controller problems :-P.
So basically you are telling me that you don't like the tournament rulesets and that you think that MLG is spreading a bad example? Well yeah, I understand that some people don't like the strict rulesets, but they can make their own tournaments and do their own things. Also, online plays are independent of MLG rulesets. MLG has nothing to do with them.
Yeah, i know that feeling all too well. couple of my friends got their accounts messed with. but still, you'll always run the risk of it. my dad makes multiple orders a month *and i mean a LOT of order* with his debit card, and he's been doing it for the past few years. hasn't had one problem with it.
This wins. Really, it does.
Tis quite all right. =]
Heres a what if. What if MLG decided to make online tournies? What would happen then? Wifi might not even have item customization for all we know.
There is that slim chance MLG might tho.
I'm BEGGING YOU! 
Well if they do they do. Their ruleset is entirely of their choosing. The thing is that it doesn't limit other people to host their own online tournaments with their own rulesets.
You know this topic isnt all about MLG, its about any tournament that takes place. I wasn't directly aiming it at MLG.
Don't, you're one of the few people I've seen on this board hold a debate without eventually being crucified for trolling/spamming/flaming. You're doing well.
Wireless controllers already ruined a large Tekken and Virtua Fighter tournament this year... so... yay.
Details???
The near-inevitable risk of cross-talk interference (which is disastrous) and the additional time for wireless devices (which is irritating) to sync properly wouldn't make the tournament worth a cross country trip, would it now?
As far as finding GCN controllers, one should really become familiar with GCN controller innards, so you can repair/tweak them to your liking.m3d said:
As far as the interference goes they should at least test this theory to see if the interference really is bad enough to effect the outcome of a match. like someone was saying before we didn't hear any problem like this occurring at e4 all.
Thanks a lot, I've been looking for somewhere to buy a controller than wasn't Brand-X.
and then you have the problem of people temp-synching at the same time on different systems.
15 seconds is ideal, but it's obvious that out of the large group of people playing some people will run into problems.
That is also true. I doubt they will change it though, because the wireless controller ban was universal to PS3, 360, and the Wii, so to go back and say one is ok on the basis that most people use Gamecube controllers is a task that could rile up the other communities that MLG caters to.
The current classic controler is like half wireless and half not. Its wirless in the sense that there are no cords going into the wii, however its not wireless because you have to plug it into your wiimote. So, there is a cord techniquely. However there is a new classic controler on its way made by Thrustmaster. Heres the link.
i would think that the controller would sync to the closest console...but i'm not really sure what the behavior would be like because i havnt been in a big wii tournament, if that does happen its really just 10 more seconds to hit the reconnect button and resync. i really wish mlg would atleast do some testing when brawl comes out to confirm whether it will cause big iissues or not.
If you keep compounding those 10 secs, it's going to add up to a lot of time. Tourneys take large amounts of time as is.
I don't see the need for testing when they have the science backing them saying there will definitely be interference at some point. That's all it would take. Like I said before, if they lift the ban for the Wii's alone then the other players on different systems might fight to have wireless controllers as well. Then things would get ridiculous. The easiest and overall safest way to handle this is simply to ban the wireless controllers. It's really not that hard to understand.
I was completely unaware that they stopped producing GCN controllers! If it is true, then this could be very bad. They just have to keep producing them.
