As a PM Luigi/ganon user, that matchup is hella hard.
I know one ganon who played it well. I think Junebug has a set vs K9 as Ganon.
I find down throw to be espec useful as well as sh up air and b-air.
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Q&A How to Wreck *****es with Ganon?- Linguini Q&A Thread
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I know one ganon who played it well. I think Junebug has a set vs K9 as Ganon.
I find down throw to be espec useful as well as sh up air and b-air.
Renth
Smash Hero
It's something I've always used but never explored and that's what I am trying to do now.
X WaNtEd X
Smash Lord
man idk how you get away with those continuous waveland jumps so much. whenever i do that sheiks will wavedash ftilt. is it actually safe? is there something i can do to avoid that?
Renth
Smash Hero
It depends on the player, I wouldn't do that if I were to get punished regularly for it. It's all a game of mental chess, don't expect anything to work ever unless it's actually guaranteed like chain grabbing.
Be smart, play smart, get in their head and the game is yours my friend.
Also, there are no "good" sheik players in florida. Very under-experienced undeveloped character in these parts.. Idk why that is, sheik just does not exist here
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No wonder there are so many Ganons there lol
spider_sense
Smash Champion
I think the last "Good sheik" we ever had was Nicaboy. He beat all the Ganons consistently including Linguini. Kid was op...I miss him. 
I don't think Hiroshi doesn't play nearly as much as he used to, but his sheik has always been solid, but just never quite there for some reason.
I don't think Hiroshi doesn't play nearly as much as he used to, but his sheik has always been solid, but just never quite there for some reason.
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Эикельманн [РУС]
Banned via Administration
Plup is the only Sheik in Florida. He went all Sheik tonight at the monthly and took 3rd.
spider_sense
Smash Champion
Is that his new main or something? I won't call him a legit main, if that's his secondary.
Эикельманн [РУС]
Banned via Administration
it's his secondary, but he's still the only sheik in florida.
Moy
Where's the coffee cake?
How exactly does the immediate turn around from wavelanding work?
PseudoTurtle
Smash Champion
X WaNtEd X
Smash Lord
so i think i'm going to change my tag to "hulk" and start playing a green ganon. i was previously purple killer, but i'm not well known enough for it to matter.
you guys are so lucky. i have to deal with freakin korean dj and all these sheik players all the time. pain the ****.
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Coastward
Smash Lord
yeah man, toronto has so many sheik players it's ridiculous.
Эикельманн [РУС]
Banned via Administration
we're not lucky. that's a bad thing. it means we get auto wrecked by sheik players at big tournaments.
Superspright
Smash Lord
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A moonwalk maneuver will do it too just before the ledge, or holding the opposite direction of the waveland while being perfectly spaced for the waveland lag to end (10 frames). The pivot will occur and the momentum will slide you off like you said.
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Renth
Smash Hero
X WaNtEd X
Smash Lord
yeah yeah i know that it's actually a good thing deep down. the tradeoff is that i get all these sheiks, marths and peaches (cuz new england) and not enough space animals. except for falco. so pretty much just not enough fox. at this point, i'm starting to think that's legitimately the worse matchup for ganon.
Renth
Smash Hero
Coastward
Smash Lord
secured my hotel room, getting more and more hype the closer the date comes.
also, do you think it would be a good idea to have ganons who arent gonna be in the round robin to commentate the event? thatd be aweseome, lay down the warlock knowledge and get more people playing ganon.
also, do you think it would be a good idea to have ganons who arent gonna be in the round robin to commentate the event? thatd be aweseome, lay down the warlock knowledge and get more people playing ganon.
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Эикельманн [РУС]
Banned via Administration
yeah if you think you're good for it, you should commentate with one of the good commentators there.
like one ganondorf + one staple commentator.
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Moy
Where's the coffee cake?
Renth
Smash Hero
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Linguini
I won't have a vehicle tomorrow but I'd like to extend an invitation to you to come over to my place. I have a recording set up and I would love to give the Ganondorf as well as the rest of the smash community an exhibition. I want to play a best of 5 against what I truly believe to be the best Ganondorf main in the history of smash brothers.
I've improved quite a bit and I won the last gainesville event. I want to push myself farther and I believe you are the person to take me to the next level.
( i messaged him on facebook i know he lurks here also)
http://smashboards.com/threads/hello-friends.364802/#post-17326665
I've improved quite a bit and I won the last gainesville event. I want to push myself farther and I believe you are the person to take me to the next level.
( i messaged him on facebook i know he lurks here also)
I've been starting to play PM.. this tournament I hadn't played PM in 5-6 months before entering tell me if i'm good or bad
http://smashboards.com/threads/hello-friends.364802/#post-17326665
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X WaNtEd X
Smash Lord
i think just about any ganon main here going to bh4 would make a better commentator for the ganon round robin than most of the commentators available simply because most know jack about ganon. seriously, there are so many bad commentaries in ganon matches that I often mute my computer whenever i'm watching
There's 3 options for wavelanding on a platform and escaping it facing at the opposite direction:
1) Waveland on the platform at a spacing and angle such that you will fall off precisely on frame 12, counting the airdodge input as frame 1. In the window of frames 9-11 input smash turn (the type of turn you input during dash dance, which requires a smash input) so that you turn on frame 11 and then fall off facing the new direction. As far as I can tell, this is what @
Renth
did in the video he linked. Can't be sure because of video quality though.2) Waveland on the platform a bit further away from the edge, so that it will take 19 frames or more to fall off, but so that your waveland can still carry you off the platform. Immediately after wavelanding start holding the control stick in the opposite direction, so that you will tilt turn starting on frame 11. Then on frame 18 your turning animation finishes, and you will face the opposite direction you were sliding to if you fall off on frame 19 or after. If you fall off before the turn finishes, you will remain in the original orientation.
3) Waveland into turn moonwalk: This is by far the most lenient method, and I think it's also most practical, since you don't have to fall off the edge on a specific frame and don't have to turn precisely. However it might be a bit easier to react to and a little slower, since the dash negates a bit of your airdodge momentum.
DrWorm
Smash Rookie
Hi everyone, I'm an avid Ganon player and never really looked at smashboards until a few days ago when I was asked to check it out by Eikelmann on a reddit post so here I am.
cptjiggles69
Smash Journeyman
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Room is booked and yeah it would be fun to commentatr on the ganon round robin
Divinokage
Smash Legend
You'll need to find a replacement for that Ganon RR.
Coastward
Smash Lord
ME! PICK ME! PICK MEEEEEEE!
real talk, it sucks that you cant go anymore kage.
real talk, it sucks that you cant go anymore kage.
Эикельманн [РУС]
Banned via Administration
Welcome! Thank you so much for joining us! Attending any big tournaments in the near future?
Also, Kage's lack of attendance at TBH4 is terrible news for us. What's the plan, guys?
@
Juggleguy
Divinokage
Smash Legend
According to twitter, no me = no Ganon RR. GGWelcome! Thank you so much for joining us! Attending any big tournaments in the near future?
Also, Kage's lack of attendance at TBH4 is terrible news for us. What's the plan, guys?
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Moy
Where's the coffee cake?
I saw the reddit GIF of you vs. that falco on Yoshi's. very nice.
This is very saddening.
Divinokage
Smash Legend
Sounds like my fate is only going to 1 tournament a year or something.. Man... >_<
DrWorm
Smash Rookie
Well, I'm a part of AlabamaSmashLeague and due to certain restrictions i can't travel much other than Hidden Power monthlies near where i live. There's not really and big tournaments i can go to with the exception of a very slim chance of going to tipped off 10Welcome! Thank you so much for joining us! Attending any big tournaments in the near future?
Also, Kage's lack of attendance at TBH4 is terrible news for us. What's the plan, guys?
@
DrWorm
Smash Rookie
Also, you played a one of my Highschool friends Dron in a tournament in Pensacola fairly recently which i was sadly unable to go toWelcome! Thank you so much for joining us! Attending any big tournaments in the near future?
Also, Kage's lack of attendance at TBH4 is terrible news for us. What's the plan, guys?
@
Эикельманн [РУС]
Banned via Administration
Did you watch our P:M set?
DrWorm
Smash Rookie
Yea, you and your ledgedrop uairs are disgusting; and that 3 stock comeback was insane. I tried doing some and i don't see how you go so deep with themDid you watch our P:M set?
Maniclysane
Smash Lord
I'm practicing waveland onto stage but it's so so hard. Any tricks to learn this faster? I'm currently working on shield dropping and ledge canceling but I can't even get started on wavelanding with him.
Juggleguy
Smash Grimer
It was never confirmed unless all four players registered.