spider_sense
Smash Champion
Yeah, but here's the problem. I can't seem to get the b-air to get past his f-air. And they always sidestep my darn grabs. >.< Too frustrating. lol
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Q&A How to Wreck *****es with Ganon?- Linguini Q&A Thread
- Thread starter Linguini
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KIngGerudo
Smash Lord
sh-bair to DJ stomp to upsmash/beatdown.
i dont wanna say its a baiting game but thats just how i think of it.
im no smash pasta, take my advice with caution.
i dont wanna say its a baiting game but thats just how i think of it.
im no smash pasta, take my advice with caution.
spider_sense
Smash Champion
lol, Any advice is better than none.
I appreciate it, and I'll try it out. Thanks bro
KIngGerudo
Smash Lord
np im always on here so i can try to help when i can
Renth
Smash Hero
- Why aren't you a mod for the ganon forums? you troll here more than ANYONE.
- dash dancing is a good way to sneak in grabs or back airs in on unsuspecting marth players.
- They side step your grabs XD..? I didn't think anyone could predict them that perfectly to always sidestep them, that probably means you have some predictable patterns, mixing it up is always imporant patterns are bad to have.
- You know how a lot of ganon players Short hop -> wave land -> f tilt? well if your oppoent gets use to you doing that, predicts it and starts putting up shields go take some easy grabs instead of tilting.
- Marth will destroy you off stage. Ganon is very simple to edge guard, *Practice Teching His f smash and d tilt* It's hard but not impossible. Keep stage control at all times stay in the center as much as possible so you don't get gimped at low percents.
--- I use to get ***** on YS by marths all the time until i learned to stay below marth and abuse him being above me.
My advice probably is out dated because i haven't played in so long.. but i hope some of this is useful to you.
KIngGerudo
Smash Lord
its true =\ i do troll here more than anyone.
lol you advice isnt out dated because there been no changes in the ganon game.
pick ganon, proceed beatdown. i dont think that will ever change
lol you advice isnt out dated because there been no changes in the ganon game.
pick ganon, proceed beatdown. i dont think that will ever change
Renth
Smash Hero
It's not that "Ganons Game" has changed. I'm more than sure Linguini has picked up more tricks and knows the Ganon match ups a lot better than I do now. He's more qualified to give advice than I am.
wisl
Smash Journeyman
linguini, your video got taken off youtube...
do you have a download version somewhere?
do you have a download version somewhere?
Linguini
Smash Master
Hmm,ill try this out next time I play man.The guy in my sig is.......I have no idea honestly, a friend of mine made this **** back in 06, and it's funny as **** haha. I actually have some new vids up,ill post them in your video thread.I was thinking of it being used more as a combo finisher then a edge guard. If you can do something where the other guy has just been hit and is DIing back towards the stage, and you are about a foot or so away from the ledge, a SH wizards foot to the ledge feels quicker and more of a sure thing then anything that would require you to DI the same distance towards the ledge that the other guy has to DI towards the ledge.
Also, it doesnt even have to be a combo. Sometimes you just get lucky early on, and you are in a position where your opponent is standing on the ledge and you are standing in front of him. You have enough time to jab or tilt, but not anything else. The jab/tilt takes them just far enough off the ledge that they are above oblivion, but not so far that they cant just DI right back. In those situations, a wizards spike finshes them off... at least the caliber of players I have played.
But even when edge guarding, you can use the wizards foot on the ledge against people with hitting upBs. You will just trade hits.
At least in my experience.
Still curious where that one guy in your sig came from though, and if your ever going to start recording vids. again.
Anyways, thanks for bringing interest back into the ganon community. I live in a verry small town that is now devoid of good smashers, so talking about the metagame and watching the metagame is as close as I can get to the glory days.
Tommorow im going OOS to Georgia for a big melee tournament,darkrain,kage,xelic,hungrybox,colbol,lambchops will be there so ill be sure to record my teams/singles bracket matches with my recorder.
Yeah,****ing brawl killed off alot of people but ganon needs to stay strong, brawl doesnt even have ganon, just some gay imitation.Thanks for the support tho man.
I use it at least once a set vs sheik, ganon,and cf because their recoveries are easy to predict once they've used their jump. VS marth I never use i, hsi recovery is tricky and u-tilt is unreliable.
By all means it's useful and not to mention sick to hit against those three.lol
Don't DI into marth, trust me,the result of that is much worse.
Bairs are real good vs marth, especially because it shuts down almost every approach he has from the edge. Full hop fairs are great for dodging marths f smash and utilts, make sure you dont spend TOO much time in the air,because if he hits you without any jumps left........thats your stock. Most ganons aren't great at edguarding marth, but it's pretty simple. Use the uair(sweespot uair) and then when marth up-b's again stomp him.
Ill add more later when I have time.
My DL version got deleted for some reason(ill redo it another day), im pretty sure somone re uploaded it on MLG video though.
wisl
Smash Journeyman
kay thanks, that'll do.
Anonymous.
Smash Lord
Linguini
Smash Master
Including him.
I wrecked his falco,he had to go fox to take me out.
lolz too much chops training
mild or spicy
Smash Cadet
rofl i was playing dorf and i think he is terrible. he only has like dthrow to uair. hes fair is like super predictable. the only good thing is that it has the hitbox of a fkin pumpking in his hand. his purple drank can be halted with fireballz.
KirbyKaze
Smash Legend
linguini how important is it you know how to do this?
http://www.smashboards.com/showpost.php?p=6430282&postcount=1
http://www.smashboards.com/showpost.php?p=6430282&postcount=1
you cant do it with ganon hes too big XD
KirbyKaze
Smash Legend
you sir are a liar
rika is following you.
KirbyKaze
Smash Legend
stalking hitler's dangerous stuff son.
not when i have higurashi mindgames son.
CluelessBTD
Smash Ace
Yes he can, but most of the time it won't get him out of the second hit of fox's Uair. However, if fox is already hitting you from your side and not in your center, you have a good chance of SDI-ing out of the way. I do it.
yah i know...if you didnt notice i was just following KK in every thread he posted that in and was runnign out of things to sa
isthattim?
Smash Ace
actual question:
should i crouch cancel into down-B at low percentages? i've used it against trash but i'm afraid to use it against a good sheik or samus. Is it a viable crouch cancel tactic or should i jab (possibly more combo potential)
should i crouch cancel into down-B at low percentages? i've used it against trash but i'm afraid to use it against a good sheik or samus. Is it a viable crouch cancel tactic or should i jab (possibly more combo potential)
elvenarrow3000
Smash Master
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If you were to crouch cancel, I would imagine grab would be your best combo starter option afterwards.
isthattim?
Smash Ace
I probably dont use grab often enough with ganon. i'll give that a go next time ty.
elvenarrow3000
Smash Master
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Grabs are amazing with Ganon. I would honestly say that he probably has one of the best throw games in the game.
BlueDogChronicles
Smash Cadet
Any general tips for Ganon in teams?
KIngGerudo
Smash Lord
team with pikachu or fox as much as possible.
play off your partners grabs and make sure you have good spacing
play off your partners grabs and make sure you have good spacing
isthattim?
Smash Ace
Can someone tell me ganons best options out of a grab?
i use dthrow->upsmash
and dthrow->jab
but i don't know of any other good options from his grabs
(i had a quick look at the guides and all they talk about is CGing)
i use dthrow->upsmash
and dthrow->jab
but i don't know of any other good options from his grabs
(i had a quick look at the guides and all they talk about is CGing)
KIngGerudo
Smash Lord
dthrow to any aerial pretty much. you can also do any smash attack but thats character based.
isthattim?
Smash Ace
i guess i'll trial and error it then.
elvenarrow3000
Smash Master
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Dthrow can go into dsmash, Gerudo Dragon, Wizard's Foot, fsmash, usmash, ftilt, grab... all kinds of things.
Linguini
Smash Master
At low percents I like to crouch cancel jab. Thsi can sometimes lead to a quick grab afterwards. CC grab is also really useful with ganon.
Ganon in teams can be tough due to ganons big size/amazing ability to get tossed around.
Try to keep your distance and protect your space as much as you can. I recently lost faith in ganon during teams but ive come up with some good strats and im using him again.
One great technique is to pick a platform level and just camp on top of the platform with stomp mixups(full jum dair,sh dair,dj double stomp), this works real well, especially in teams.
Depends vs what character, be more specific.
isthattim?
Smash Ace
****ing sheik
spider_sense
Smash Champion
"Sheik is a *****, so treat her like one" - Thomas Tipman
That quote will always stick with me. lol, Anyways, it's particularly hard to grab Sheik because she can crotch under your grab and also dash attack under it, so once you DO manage to grab her, immediately D-throw into any aerial because she's very floaty, contrary to how fast and complex she is. Edge guard with retreating F-airs, up-tippy spikes, or if you want to be fancy, you can always up-tilt like Linguini.
jason play my sheik i have training now :D
spider_sense
Smash Champion
lol, Sure thing bro. :3
i decided falco wasnt my style
so i picked up sheik and have had a little training :D
looking forward to play you again
so i picked up sheik and have had a little training :D
looking forward to play you again
spider_sense
Smash Champion
Stop funking up the Ganon thread with your Sheikness! >=O lol j/k Yeah, we need to play over the spring break for sure (too bad I don't get one =P) or over a free weekend.
:/ and i wont be here for my spring break
but a free weekend sounds good.
but a free weekend sounds good.