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Sleepy

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If there is something you miss, and you can't tell what happened like when dsw and m2k played with m2k's sheik it could be useful to figure out what moves caused what to happen. I mean I still have no idea what happened when at the end dsw was trying to firebird i think at the end
 

NeighborhoodP

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Okay, it's not like the videos are going at 1/60x speed. It's just to slow it down a little so you can look at everything that's going on and process it.

Videos aren't recorded at 60 FPS anyway.
just watch a lot and figure it out. rewind it if you have to. i can tell everything that goes on in a video, but that's just years of experience. don't always look for the easy way out. there is no easy way in melee.

I think that this is the most honest I've ever seen P online

good **** adam, it sounds like you're learning a lot
I would honestly be afraid to fight you if you learned how to pressure and were technical

btw I have your lotion ^_^

cheeeea i need that lotion!

yeah i am. dude my fox is technical now. my falco still has a lot of work to do. my marth is officially retired. but my sheik is amazing!!!! boost grab is so broken. thanks sherigami

in the end i'll probably end up being a sheik/fox main
 

DJMirror

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So P can you kindly explain to me how do Japanese players play safe and what do you mean by playing safe? by spacing?
 

NeighborhoodP

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i don't watch japanese players often, nor recently, so not really. playing safe = don't get hit. they camp their balls off.
 

Kira-

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So P can you kindly explain to me how do Japanese players play safe and what do you mean by playing safe? by spacing?
basically,

you know how mango says "take the lasers like a man"

japanese players would never do that
 

LooksLikePit

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I don't even use boost grab that much when tech chasing. Just when I wait too long to wavedash or chase the actual tech.

I lol'd when I watched that Masashi vs Mikael. So much camping, and it didn't even pay off.
 

ConnorTheKid

Treat Yo' Self
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THEY WERE PLAYING SAFE. SOMETHING YOU DON'T KNOW ABOUT YET o_0

it's okay, I don't play that safely either.
 

Bob Money

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In some Matchups it really pays off to play that safe. In a situation where trading hits isn't great. Like Marth vs Shiek trading hits or Aerial spamming puts marth in a position to get F Tilted or Dash attacked..now whether it's a clean hit or not Marth looses alot of exchanges by pure character weakness. By Japanese players using less aerials etc. and more ground pressure or even Dash Dancing it's just less chance(Not neccessarily Better) to be put in coin flip or losing situations.
Not saying a double jump spamming Falco cannot beat a marth, but there is a risk factor involved in the type of movement that falco spaces with. IMO the japanese not getting hit is not just avoiding attacks but even combo variations (Upsmash vs extra up tilt etc.)

Masashi I think on that stage/match up feared getting grabbed more than a jump stealing dash attack. Granted he didn't win, but let's look at a Sex kick drilling fox who COULD **** the peach but might also get *****. I dunno, another reason why people like PC are amazing for thier style of play. Alot of US non-pc chris people try to space like PC because we see it work and it looks good but that takes ALOT of execution and skill. I think we can all learn something Japanese players. PC's matches would be faster than masashis but Masashi is no joke either and would do well against many American players. I think we forget at times that Aggressive play has a foundation of simple spacing and hit confirmation( 2d fighter thing)

And yes PC is alot better than Masashi but both players style of spacing and play has gotten them in trouble and has been exploited by smart players.

Talking about Smash is fun.:p
 

Lovage

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wow japan ****ing sucks
both of those players are really bad

lol when mikael just dash dances in the middle with no purpose, and masashi is too noob to run past him and shine/grab/usmash so he just does full hops
 

NeighborhoodP

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wow japan ****ing sucks
both of those players are really bad

lol when mikael just dash dances in the middle with no purpose, and masashi is too noob to run past him and shine/grab/usmash so he just does full hops
i don't know if you're joking or are just a noob but LMAO at this post

people who aren't smart enough to notice the little things shouldn't comment on videos
 

Kouryuu

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wow japan ****ing sucks
both of those players are really bad

lol when mikael just dash dances in the middle with no purpose, and masashi is too noob to run past him and shine/grab/usmash so he just does full hops
Are you seriously this ignorant.. ?

And to think that I was starting to doubt myself when you said Scar and Jfox were gonna **** me.
:laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:
 

Lovage

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lmao the slurp slurp was unexpected i was just trying to get kouryuu's lil weaboo peach idol and it worked
 

Goon Squad

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I thought you had Lovage ignored Kouryuu?

Actually that's a good idea. I've never ignored anyone before -- always thought it was beyond stupid -- but Lovage tries to troll and isn't even good at it. All his posts are worthless.
 

Goon Squad

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jfox did you even make it out of pools at RoM?

stop trolling WC threads before i start reporting all your posts. you've proven yourself an idiot douchebag, now you don't even get the benefit of serious replies no more
 

JFox

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actually I did make it out of pools, not that that means anything, pools were a joke. I got f*cked in brackets and have to play Chu and Drephen back to back.

Is the troll letting ME get under his skin for trolling? I should report you for making alternate accounts while you are banned from smashboards.
 

Goon Squad

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didn't drephen get like 33rd and lose to randoms? get *****

and your bracket sucked prolly cuz you barely got out of pools
 

EdreesesPieces

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one of the reasonsi got good was because i used to watch mikael vids..i learned a lot from him, he's so freakin smart. Mikael got a LOT better at melee since those vids. I was watching some of his vids leading up to Pound 3. He taught me to jab --> follow roll ---> downsmash, it's too good.
 

Kouryuu

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I thought you had Lovage ignored Kouryuu?
I did but decided to un-ignore him after he came back from EC thinking he might have some interesting things to say but instead... all he can talk about is me...

I'm gonna ignore him again.

Jfox, you'd do best not to listen to Lovage.
 

Kouryuu

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Inorite?

I cant wait to play his talentless, ugly ***. Thinks he knows how good everyone in Socal is.
 

JFox

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connor your the man. i can't wait to play you.

with the exception of a few people, i'll think i really like socal. i was tryin to make it over for mango juice, but work ***** my weekend, plus mango said i'd have no housing.

kouryuu, dont judge me brahhhh. we'll settle our differences in the money match
 

Kouryuu

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connor your the man. i can't wait to play you.

with the exception of a few people, i'll think i really like socal. i was tryin to make it over for mango juice, but work ***** my weekend, plus mango said i'd have no housing.

kouryuu, dont judge me brahhhh. we'll settle our differences in the money match
You really like Socal? Save for Mango, Lovage and Zhu, who have you met that's from the Socal community?? Have you ever been to Socal?
 
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