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How do I do a Barrel Roll? ~ Fox Q&A (Check the OP)

Zhamy

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TKD or Zeton or Rookie right now.

Haven't really seen Rookie around, though :(
 

luke_atyeo

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you said horizontally you should hold toward the stage the whole time, shouldnt you hold up first, and then after you've done your uair hold toward the stage?
 

C.R.Z

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Question
whats faster, shield grab or Jab?

need to know because i wanna know if its quicker/safer to grab out of shield of jab into grab.also helpful for other stuff aswell.

also what about shine?
 

NeverKnowsBest

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I think it all depends. Like I used to jab grab everything, but when I started fighting good Snakes jab grabs became useless because they would jab me before I could grab after my jab.

To be honest, I think the safest bet is to jump out of shield and reset the stage and spam lasers.

I have found that trying to contend and for options out of my shield are hurting me more than helping me.

To be honest I do believe a grab is definitely a better option over trying to jab out the shield.
 

Sukai

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turn around....
Who tries to jab out of a shield?
That's a waste of an OoS option.
Don't do it.

Shield-grabbing is a quick and easy way to teach your opponents how to space right, really with Fox, Shield-grabs aren't as good as some make it out to be, all it generally requires is decent spacing to get around it.

If you have the choice and opportunity, Shield grab, if the move is that **** slow, jc up smash OoS.
 

Sosuke

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I'm trying to say it really don't matter. It's up to the player to decide.
 

Zhamy

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Haven't we already established knuxrouge is a ****** and has no idea how to play this game? Why do you consider anything he ever says regarding this game to be legitimate?
 

C.R.Z

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few questions

1. can fox ff nair -> jjc without being sheild grabbed

2. does fox's shine have invinsibility frames? if so are they at the begining or the end of the shine?

3.can fox jjc -> drill ?

4. when moves clash, do they decay?

5. if fox ftilts shield is it safe? (if its well spaced anyway)

6. whats the best move to sheild push your opponent( with the exception of smash attacks)

got a tourney next week (nationals) ,thanks
 

Uzima (Uzi)

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few questions

1. can fox ff nair -> jjc without being sheild grabbed

2. does fox's shine have invinsibility frames? if so are they at the begining or the end of the shine?

3.can fox jjc -> drill ?

4. when moves clash, do they decay?

5. if fox ftilts shield is it safe? (if its well spaced anyway)

6. whats the best move to sheild push your opponent( with the exception of smash attacks)

got a tourney next week (nationals) ,thanks


1. yes

2. yes, begining 2 frames.

3. no

4. not sure

5. i believe so

6. hmmm, depending on where they are, AC fair can push people of platforms if their shielding.
on the ground, im not sure
 

Conviction

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#1 is a yes Uzi >.>

and ok Lucas Perfected. Tell him to chill on the MU stuff cause some Warios might come and flame now >.>
 

C.R.Z

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cheers guys, its really gonna help my game. ive got some amazing opponents next weekend to beat.
 

luke_atyeo

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wow really? thats amazing, I'd suppose you'd have to autocancel the nair and buffer the jabs?
 

C.R.Z

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wow really? thats amazing, I'd suppose you'd have to autocancel the nair and buffer the jabs?
na i think you have to s
SH then FF nair when your right next to/above your opponent the jab. you may need to slightly buffer it.
 

Destrawr

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Alright, i know how nooby this is gonna sound but, here goes- How do iz jab cancel? -_-
 

1nconspikuous

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been a while since i posted here... anyway, after getting spiked/semi-spiked is it safe for fox to use the shine? i noticed that generally the shine will bump you 'up' in the air after a hit, so i'm thinking maybe it could be used as a 'momentum reversal' when being sent downwards...

(i mean, i've got tap jump on, so i shouldn't be getting spike ko'd cuz i could just tap up to meteor cancel, but sometimes my jump just doesn't come out so i'm looking for other options.)
 

Adamated

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(im not ignoring the last question but i dunno the answer)

What is the easiest button config for SHTL?
 
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