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Xyro77
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Tekken Wii U: 60fps, low image latency, Touchscreen controller as a strategy guide
Tekken on Wii U will run at 60fps, has impressive image latency, and will make use of the console's touchscreen controller in interesting ways, designer Katsuhiro Harada has revealed.
Harada has seen the upcoming console up close and personal, and is impressed with the results of latency tests - news sure to please frame-obsessed fighting game fans.
"The speed of the image transmission feature from the screen to the controller is impressive," he told*Nintendo Gamer.
"The first time I saw Wii U, I thought, 'isn't the delay longer than one frame? If it is, it's going to be difficult for fighting games.' But when I heard that the latency actually isn't more than 1/60th second I was really happy."
The development team's goal is to get the fighting game running at 60fps, Harada revealed.
"In reality most games offer a variable frame rate of no more than 20fps to 40fps," he said. "But one of our major objectives will be to fix the frame rate of our game at 60 so it becomes a match about movements and no longer a match about visuals.
"Of course, with a frame rate of 30 images per second, we still get very nice visuals, but you can't compare our 60fps games with those that have low frame rates - we're taking the fight into an entirely different dimension altogether."
According to the report, Harada doesn't think Nintendo is planning to enter the graphics race with the Wii U.
Instead games will stand out courtesy of the touchscreen controller and the unique features it enables.
For Tekken, one of these unique features may be using the controller's screen to display an interactive strategy guide.
"I've often heard about or seen fighting-game players playing with a strategy guide open at their feet," Harada said. "So it would be useful if we could, for example, distribute an enhanced digital version of the guide that the player could see while playing, and even touch to have a live preview on the main screen."
Tekken Wii U was announced during Nintendo's E3 2011 press conference as part of a long list of titles due out for the console from third parties.
Little is known about it, although we expect more information at E3 2012, where Nintendo will unveil the final design of its Wii successor, due out in time for Christmas.
Another idea Harada has for the Wii U's second screen is to use it as a drawing board, letting gamers design their own patterns for character customisation.
"Another thing I would like to do is use the capacity to write on the screen," he said. "I'd like to implement a feature such as being able to customise the character by drawing and painting on the screen."
Tekken Wii U footage from last year shows how this may manifest itself in-game. It also shows live-editable stages, lending the 3D fighting game a Smash Bros. feel.
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2012-02-28-tekken-wii-u-60fps-low-image-latency
Tekken on Wii U will run at 60fps, has impressive image latency, and will make use of the console's touchscreen controller in interesting ways, designer Katsuhiro Harada has revealed.
Harada has seen the upcoming console up close and personal, and is impressed with the results of latency tests - news sure to please frame-obsessed fighting game fans.
"The speed of the image transmission feature from the screen to the controller is impressive," he told*Nintendo Gamer.
"The first time I saw Wii U, I thought, 'isn't the delay longer than one frame? If it is, it's going to be difficult for fighting games.' But when I heard that the latency actually isn't more than 1/60th second I was really happy."
The development team's goal is to get the fighting game running at 60fps, Harada revealed.
"In reality most games offer a variable frame rate of no more than 20fps to 40fps," he said. "But one of our major objectives will be to fix the frame rate of our game at 60 so it becomes a match about movements and no longer a match about visuals.
"Of course, with a frame rate of 30 images per second, we still get very nice visuals, but you can't compare our 60fps games with those that have low frame rates - we're taking the fight into an entirely different dimension altogether."
According to the report, Harada doesn't think Nintendo is planning to enter the graphics race with the Wii U.
Instead games will stand out courtesy of the touchscreen controller and the unique features it enables.
For Tekken, one of these unique features may be using the controller's screen to display an interactive strategy guide.
"I've often heard about or seen fighting-game players playing with a strategy guide open at their feet," Harada said. "So it would be useful if we could, for example, distribute an enhanced digital version of the guide that the player could see while playing, and even touch to have a live preview on the main screen."
Tekken Wii U was announced during Nintendo's E3 2011 press conference as part of a long list of titles due out for the console from third parties.
Little is known about it, although we expect more information at E3 2012, where Nintendo will unveil the final design of its Wii successor, due out in time for Christmas.
Another idea Harada has for the Wii U's second screen is to use it as a drawing board, letting gamers design their own patterns for character customisation.
"Another thing I would like to do is use the capacity to write on the screen," he said. "I'd like to implement a feature such as being able to customise the character by drawing and painting on the screen."
Tekken Wii U footage from last year shows how this may manifest itself in-game. It also shows live-editable stages, lending the 3D fighting game a Smash Bros. feel.
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2012-02-28-tekken-wii-u-60fps-low-image-latency
heytallman
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derkapalooza
Smash Journeyman
kailo34ce
Smash Lord
So.
a frame is about 1.6 ms
all TVs have at least 1.25 frames of latency but anyway more importantly is buffer.
Tekken is generally a 5 frame window of buffer game
For comparison Brawl has 10 FUGGIN FRAMES
and Melee has 0
it will effect reaction time but will only matter if they make a game without buffering (which exactly 0 games do these days, even sports games and etc)
furthermore if this console actually runs games at 60fps thatd be nice, altho i wouldnt doubt nintendo first party games.
but for hd games, sf4 is built on windows xp ,720p standard, and is very optimized, they did a good job
PS3s and xbox cant run skyrim, mgs4, re5, deus ex HR, MVC3 and many other games at a high, consistent framerate (yes the framerate varies constantly and usually runs in the 22-28 range.
Player-4
See you in 25 years
Y u no use 125x125?!nope
10nopes
edit: Kailo, I thought Melee had a 1 frame buffer window?
kailo34ce
Smash Lord
iasa/reading analog ****
Good Ol' Tree
Smash Ace
I love you, Kalo
gunterrsmash01
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Ojih~Sama
Smash Journeyman
i raged at MW3 today.....i made a hole in the wall...
should i quit gaming in general?
srsly
*also i learned that u dont learn anything until u pay a price, whether it be time, pain, or punishment...
^^^^^^^^
i died at that pic btw
should i quit gaming in general?
srsly
*also i learned that u dont learn anything until u pay a price, whether it be time, pain, or punishment...
^^^^^^^^
i died at that pic btw
CY
Smash Ace
I would actually be concerned if you DIDN'T rage at MW3. ur fine, my dude. I've broken a few controllers in my day.
AeroLink_the_SoulMaster
Let's rock, baby!
I almost always hit my target... In Link's Crossbow Training. 
Pics would be appreciated.
Besides everyone rages, especially for a terrible game like M- No, any FPS/TPS is bad. Anyways, what CY said is true. It'd be weird if you didn't break any controllers, so don't feel bad.
heytallman
CTALL
Red.
Shadow.
Shadow.
Xyro77
Unity Ruleset Committee Member
RedShadow lost to a konkey dong named Jew. A Controller Died That Day.
I'd be mad too if I lost to a Gorilla that's Jewish.
Ojih~Sama
Smash Journeyman
i think i rage harder than red shadow, tho i dont show it as often.
see look....
[/IMG]
towards the right was the living romm where i was playing
i had to lie to my fashza and said i spilt water on floor then was lazy and didnt clean up and slipped and fell on the wall against my elbow
if i play again i should prolly just use the generic set everyone uses:
striker/assassin/watever 3rd perk
see look....
towards the right was the living romm where i was playing
i had to lie to my fashza and said i spilt water on floor then was lazy and didnt clean up and slipped and fell on the wall against my elbow
if i play again i should prolly just use the generic set everyone uses:
striker/assassin/watever 3rd perk
Ojih~Sama
Smash Journeyman
kicked da **** ouuta that wall tho
yea boiiiii
yea boiiiii
Xyro77
Unity Ruleset Committee Member
how sad. a nerd gets mad at a ****ty shooter.
GET OUT
GET OUT
OoT 3DS speedrun WR atm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-KgD4Gr01yw&feature=g-u-u&context=G20ef8a5FUAAAAAAAAAA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-KgD4Gr01yw&feature=g-u-u&context=G20ef8a5FUAAAAAAAAAA
i think i rage harder than red shadow, tho i dont show it as often.
see look....
[/IMG]
It still works too.
Ojih~Sama
Smash Journeyman
@RT
how am i lucky if it wasnt a lie?
@Slush
i didnt throw my controller...i learn that lesson the hard way
@Xyro
i rage at everything, whether it be an fps, LoL, or Brawl
its an internal problem i'vem been trying to fix since my elementary days tho back then it wasnt an urgent of a fix as it is now
how am i lucky if it wasnt a lie?
@Slush
i didnt throw my controller...i learn that lesson the hard way
@Xyro
i rage at everything, whether it be an fps, LoL, or Brawl
its an internal problem i'vem been trying to fix since my elementary days tho back then it wasnt an urgent of a fix as it is now
>I had to lie to my fashza and said i spilt water on floor then was lazy and didnt clean up and slipped and fell on the wall against my elbow
>not a lie
Not sure what's going on anymore.
>not a lie
Not sure what's going on anymore.
Xyro77
Unity Ruleset Committee Member
OMG U PAINT CONTROLLERS?!?!?!?
NERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRd
NERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRd
Xyro77
Unity Ruleset Committee Member
Mario Party 9 says goodbye to taunting
One of the best/worst features of other Mario Party games was the fact that you could taunt other players just by pressing buttons on your controller. Sadly, that is not the case with Mario Party 9. Taunting has been removed from this version, which means you'll have to keep your taunting in the real world.
http://wii.ign.com/articles/121/1219609p1.html?utm_campaign=twposts&utm_source=twitter
One of the best/worst features of other Mario Party games was the fact that you could taunt other players just by pressing buttons on your controller. Sadly, that is not the case with Mario Party 9. Taunting has been removed from this version, which means you'll have to keep your taunting in the real world.
http://wii.ign.com/articles/121/1219609p1.html?utm_campaign=twposts&utm_source=twitter
Actually, I found that blue controller used at gamestop.
Xyro77
Unity Ruleset Committee Member
stop lying. it makes u even more nerdish
Xyro77
Unity Ruleset Committee Member
Damn, checked my wallet hoping I had the receipt still. Oh well, you win.
I did find my receipt when I first bought Brawl tho.
RT
Smash Hero
Xyro77
Unity Ruleset Committee Member
yea, whoever made that is a MEGA NERD.
prob RT
prob RT
Ojih~Sama
Smash Journeyman
nooo toad taunt waas too good
that would be soo rhape, needs matching nunchuck tho
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