kailo34ce
Smash Lord
actually that makes zero sense
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saying night night doesnt make you win an argument btwK so now we have to hide which chars we're going to use or risk being subjected to xyros bad seeding.
there is a difference between choosing to not use your main, and being unable to use your main, you confused him with your random nonsense good job
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You do realize you just said one thing and turned around and said another right?
this statement refers to the previously mentioned confusion
You do realize that i realize that you keep avoiding some of my questions right?
ask questions that are relevant, everyone else already knows why they got ignored
You do realize that i realize that you realize that i realize you're an idiot right?
insulting someone isnt a valid argument
You do?
nighty night.
goodnight
No i'm upset because you decided thatIt's the seeding we were talking about. He was upset Gnes razer got top seed and they went tl and diddy. I didn't know that happened until pretty much now.
Regardless of seeding. People placed pretty much were they we're supposed to place. Gnes razer Trela denti top 4. Illmatic jnig in 5th-7th......ect. It all worked out like normal.
It's the usual nerds complaining like always.
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i like this post.Diddy/Kirby.
I got 1st at a PBT with all of Dallas when they were strong.
4th at Hobo 16. Razer 2nd round... worked my way through losers.
3rd at Hobo 17. Razer 2nd round... did it again.
as i said 2 times already, i must have overlooked it. it happens.No i'm upset because you decided that
Players that are ranked lower and are teaming for the first time ever should get better seeding than players who are ranked higher than them, are static partners and have gotten 2nd(which is basically first if gnes enters doubles). My problem is that you saw that as fine. You are a TO allan if multiple people can look at the bracket and ask why that happened having never toed in their life than you as our main TO should be able to see it's wrong without someone having to tell you.
Uhhh...but we won...i didnt know they went diddy/tl 99% of the teams tournament. now that i know that, they will not be top seed. it wasnt that i refused, its just i didnt know. i was not paying attention to matches tbh.
Yes, I have it. I upload vids generally in the order they are recorded. It'll probably be up late tonight/early tomorrow.Will my set with Gnes be uploaded? I was told that was on the recording setup
of course i wouldnt know up front, but now that i DO know, ill seed accordingly.Well, you don't know what characters they are going to go, and since we don't have to say up front whom we're using, there's no way for you to know ahead of time until after the bracket is made and matches have started.
So u mean its fair for 2nd seed team and 3rd seed team to keep their seed while the top seed team goes joke characters? Sorry, that aint happening again. if u wanna go joke chars for a match or two thats fine but 99% of the tournament....hell no. There are plenty of other REAL teams that deserve first seed if the 1st seeded team is just gonna be dumb about it.^this.
I mean if they still managed to win, that would still make them the best team there... lol.
Diddy(razer) and toonlink(gnes) is NOT a top seed. if you cant see this, im done talking about this.
I sometimes wonder...1: Razer+Gnes==/
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we dont have a teams PR. we generally go by which team has won he most.Seeding should only be done based on PR/Player Skill.
thats fine. if they do it again, they wont be top seed. its simple.Many top players that use several characters probably aren't even sure what characters they'll be using in certain MUs until the time actually comes. I doubt anyone other than solo mains know exactly who they are going to use against every player before the tourny even begins. A lot of people base decisions on knee-jerk reactions.
The point you are missing Xyro is they STILL got first. So even with those characters they were STILL the best team there capable of beating everyone. Therefore top seed is still justified.
i didnt see the GF for teams but i was told snake+diddy was used ONCE aka in the GFs. so they went joke chars until GFs.I sometimes wonder...
^This. Unless telling the TO what character you're using is a requirement...let me see, nope.Well, you don't know what characters they are going to go, and since we don't have to say up front whom we're using, there's no way for you to know ahead of time until after the bracket is made and matches have started.
i never said telling me a character up front is needed/not needed/required....ect. get that **** out of your head. stop choosing posts that fit your attack towards me.^This. Unless telling the TO what character you're using is a requirement...let me see, nope.
Xyro, in all seriousness, are you trolling or do you really believe that? If you're being serious, you may have destroyed your credibility as a good TO. Seeding is not based on characters used.
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boom. i agreeLmfao you're so ******** sometimes, geez. I guess it doesn't matter tbh, they'll joke around and still **** on practically everyone with whoever because everybody else here sucks.
sounds goodXyro one last thing you are not considering.
They probably went secondaries just because they could. Some might see this as arrogance but either way top players do this all the time.
However, I am sure if they had actually been in danger of losing at any time during the tourny they would have reverted back to Diddy/Snake right away. While it's true this is an assumption, it's a reasonable one to make and I think it would be fair to assume this while seeding.
I can't believe what I'm reading. Your job as a TO is to seed players based on how well they placed in previous tourneys, regardless of what character they use. It doesn't matter if the top seeded team decides to use Ganon+Ganon...that is their choice and you're not allowed to force them otherwise. You're not supposed to let your bias over what character they use determine the seeding.of course i wouldnt know up front, but now that i DO know, ill seed accordingly.
So u mean its fair for 2nd seed team and 3rd seed team to keep their seed while the top seed team goes joke characters? Sorry, that aint happening again. if u wanna go joke chars for a match or two thats fine but 99% of the tournament....hell no. There are plenty of other REAL teams that deserve first seed if the 1st seeded team is just gonna be dumb about it.
EDIT: gnes razer get first seed because they are prob top 3 team in the USA. Thats under the assumption they use diddy/snake. Diddy(razer) and toonlink(gnes) is NOT a top seed. if you cant see this, im done talking about this.
DWII can't believe what I'm reading.
THIS^ is why you are not a TO. You dont even know what my job is LOL.Your job as a TO is to seed players based on how well they placed in previous tourneys, regardless of what character they use.
I agree with this if it were 1 or 2 matches. But when 99% of their matches are Ganon+Ganon, you mean to tell me you dont have a problem with GANON+GANON having first seed when Denti+Alsm(olimar/diddy aka people who are serious and are going serious characters) get 2nd or 3rd? I HIGHLY doubt denti alsm would like having a lower seed when the "top seed" is going ganon 99% of the time.It doesn't matter if the top seeded team decides to use Ganon+Ganon...that is their choice.
Assuming those results are snake+diddy, yes.Your only job is to seed based on prior results.
Im not and didnt. Gnes/razer got top seed. lolYou're not supposed to let your bias over what character they use determine the seeding.
i dont care what they say. I do what i want. always have, always will.At this point, I really want other TOs to respond to this.
If they are good TOs, they will take what they deem good about my methods and use it while trashing what they deem bad.Xyro, you're trying to set a very bad prcedence for other TOs to follow.
Nopesies..Ok so what if Gnes/Razer beat Denti/Alsm with double Ganon on a regular basis.
Denti/ALSM would still get higher seed because of character?
Here we go...
Find me one REPUTABLE TO that agrees with you and I promise I won't mention this ever again.THIS^ is why you are not a TO. You dont even know what my job is LOL.
It doesn't matter what I or you or Denti or ALAM thnks...if the first seeded team, which earned their seed from winning past tourneys, decide to go random+random, that is their choice. Gea told me there was a tourney back in Melee where Isai went all Yoshi in pools? Does this mean he didn't deserve first seed in that pool when it was assigned?I agree with this if it were 1 or 2 matches. But when 99% of their matches are Ganon+Ganon, you mean to tell me you dont have a problem with GANON+GANON having first seed when Denti+Alsm(olimar/diddy aka people who are serious and are going serious characters) get 2nd or 3rd? I HIGHLY doubt denti alsm would like having a lower seed when the "top seed" is going ganon 99% of the time.
No Xyro, a bad TO does things that aren't well-established, like allowing items or banned stages. So I guess all those tourneys with all stages and items have good TOs because they chose not to "go by the book" and used their uninformed common sense?i guess this type of thing is what separates GOOD TOs from nobodies like you. We dont go "by the books" just because thats "how its done." We are capable of using common sense as well as going "by the books"(if needed). Something you have ALWAYS lacked.
You're free to do what you want provided there is a good explanation, not "just because I said so." Imagine if cops gave tickets "just because."Imagine You would contest that ticket in a heartbeat.i dont care what they say. I do what i want. always have, always will.
At this point, the only lesson here is to NOT do what you did.If they are good TOs, they will take what they deem good about my methods and use it while trashing what they deem bad.