Hitstun/shield stun Thread

MuBa · Nov 22, 2008

Okay guys I think I found the perfect hitstun code and it's not 1.4 - The problem with 1.4 is hitstun will only effect attacks that puts you into twirl/tumbling animation.

It's 1.3, I found a variable constant that could manipulate hitstun. I'll get back to you guys after some testing.

IM_A_HUSTLA · Nov 22, 2008

but isnt that what we want??

i mean we dont want jabs to be godly now do we?

MuBa · Nov 22, 2008

IM_A_HUSTLA said:
but isnt that what we want??

i mean we dont want jabs to be godly now do we?

I tried using Captain Falcon, and when he Daired, or did any throws the CPU was able to immediately aird dodge out of it, which shows the the code is not perfect.

IM_A_HUSTLA · Nov 22, 2008

so the new code does nothing???

MuBa · Nov 22, 2008

IM_A_HUSTLA said:
so the new code does nothing???

Oh it definitely does, but the problem is that certain "stunned" animations won't be affected by the code.

Edit: Personally I think the stale attack system needs to go, because comboing with certain characters become difficult and you can't really keep in track of the last 10 attacks you've use constantly.

EDIT2: You're definitely stunned but the major problem is that you can air dodge out of ANY attack

(So that's the problem with the code, disable being able to Airdodge also and Hitstun 1.4 is perfect.)

IM_A_HUSTLA · Nov 22, 2008

EDIT: So is it possible to use the old and thw new code together or are they changing the same thing??

I was think the 1.3 didnt add hitstun it disabled the mechanic to AD during the hitstun

zxeon · Nov 22, 2008

I'm confused.

kupo15 · Nov 22, 2008

unless you guys change the code yourselves by finding whats different and testing it yourselves, id wait until PW fixes it. I just PMed him

Yeroc · Nov 22, 2008

I'm using both codes together right now (with the value set at 3F20000 - the upper value he recommended) and it's very 64 esque, only with DI. Very interesting.

Jiangjunizzy · Nov 22, 2008

muba and i found one line was missing from 1.3 to 1.4. muba is in the process of testing it.

poklin · Nov 22, 2008

what do you mean by both codes?

IM_A_HUSTLA · Nov 22, 2008

he means 1.3 and 1.4

i think

poklin · Nov 22, 2008

did you/can you change the value of 1.3 or did you jut use 1.3 and 1.4 with the modifier you said?

IM_A_HUSTLA · Nov 22, 2008

OMFG PLAYING WITH BOTH CODES IS PHUCKING AMAZING

CAN TRULY BE CALLED BRAWL+ NOW

I PLAYED ONE MATCH AND I AM SO AMAZED

i used 1.3 and 1.4 together and i have 1.4 set to the second setting PW mentioned

NEW BRAWL+ STANDARD:
S-Canceling(takes skill but is very easy to do still)
No Tripping(OBVIOUSLY)
HITSTUN 1.3+1.4(together this is this ****)

kupo15 · Nov 22, 2008

Comparing 1.3 to 1.4 (green and white is 1.4)

+ Hitstun 4.0:[Phantom Wings]
42000000 80000000
80000000 80623320
80000001 00000000
60000006 00000000
60000003 00000001
4A001000 00000000
4A101001 00000000
32000000 0000001C
36000000 00000032
58010000 00000004
DE000000 80008180
58010000 00000060
DE000000 80008180
92210002 00000070
58010000 0000007C
- 34000038 00000042
36000038 00000049
+ 34000038 00000049
36000038 00000042
4A001002 00000000
58010000 00000024
58010000 0000000C
1400001C 00000088
14000018 00000088
E2000002 00000000
80100001 00000008
62000000 00000001
E200000F 00000000
80000001 00000000
80100000 00000244
62000000 00000000
- E0000000 80008000
+ 045A9300 3ECCCCCD
C276CCD4 00000002
C022FFE0 EF7C0072
60000000 00000000

IM_A_HUSTLA · Nov 22, 2008

k the second setting is a little too much but with a little tweaks its gonna be so fun

MuBa · Nov 22, 2008

Okay I think I've fixed the code

Hitstun 1.4 FIXED

80000000 80623320
80000001 00000000
60000006 00000000
60000003 00000001
4A001000 00000000
4A101001 00000000
32000000 0000001C
36000000 00000032
58010000 00000004
DE000000 80008180
58010000 00000060
DE000000 80008180
92210002 00000070
58010000 0000007C
34000038 00000042
36000038 00000049
4A001002 00000000
58010000 00000024
58010000 0000000C
1400001C 00000088
14000018 00000088
E2000002 00000000
80100001 00000008
62000000 00000001
E200000F 00000000
80000001 00000000
80100000 00000244
62000000 00000000
E0000000 80008000
045A9300 3F100000
C276CCD4 00000002
C022FFE0 EF7C0072
60000000 00000000

sagemoon · Nov 22, 2008

Okay I was playing w/ both 1.4 and 1.3 on, and i noticed that falcos and dededes chaingrab could both be DI'd at 0%. Not sure if it was the 1.4 code or a combination, I was using 3F200000. I am leaving somewhere, someone please test this out. I like the feel of the hitstun.

Omis · Nov 22, 2008

MuBa said:
Okay I think I've fixed the code

Hitstun 1.4 FIXED

80000000 80623320
80000001 00000000
60000006 00000000
60000003 00000001
4A001000 00000000
4A101001 00000000
32000000 0000001C
36000000 00000032
58010000 00000004
DE000000 80008180
58010000 00000060
DE000000 80008180
92210002 00000070
58010000 0000007C
34000038 00000042
36000038 00000049
4A001002 00000000
58010000 00000024
58010000 0000000C
1400001C 00000088
14000018 00000088
E2000002 00000000
80100001 00000008
62000000 00000001
E200000F 00000000
80000001 00000000
80100000 00000244
62000000 00000000
E0000000 80008000
045A9300 3F100000
C276CCD4 00000002
C022FFE0 EF7C0072
60000000 00000000

Are you fixing the ability to airdodge out of hitstun?

peachfvl · Nov 22, 2008

how do u play with both codes active?

Phantom Wings · Nov 22, 2008

Lol, looks like I forgot to set the code back to normal after I was fiddling around with it. I had to do a bit of testing for some of the bug reports for the last code, and that was the code I sent Kupo. :laugh:

Thanks for fixing it for me.(can someone get around to getting this into the threads that the bugged code has been posted into? Thanks)

But yeah, the code should be:

Code:

Hitstun 4.0:[Phantom Wings]
42000000 80000000
80000000 80623320
80000001 00000000
60000006 00000000
60000003 00000001
4A001000 00000000
4A101001 00000000
32000000 0000001C
36000000 00000032
58010000 00000004
DE000000 80008180
58010000 00000060
DE000000 80008180
92210002 00000070
58010000 0000007C
[COLOR="Lime"]34000038 00000042
36000038 00000049[/COLOR]
4A001002 00000000
58010000 00000024
58010000 0000000C
1400001C 00000088
14000018 00000088
E2000002 00000000
80100001 00000008
62000000 00000001
E200000F 00000000
80000001 00000000
80100000 00000244
62000000 00000000
045A9300 3ECCCCCD
C276CCD4 00000002
C022FFE0 EF7C0072
60000000 00000000

IM_A_HUSTLA · Nov 22, 2008

what do u mean how??

u just click on both of them in the code manager

peachfvl · Nov 22, 2008

ok but where is the 1.3 code?

MuBa · Nov 22, 2008

Phantom Wings said:
Lol, looks like I forgot to set the code back to normal after I was fiddling around with it. I had to do a bit of testing for some of the bug reports for the last code, and that was the code I sent Kupo. Thanks for fixing it for me.(can someone get around to getting this into the threads that the bugged code has been posted into? Thanks)

But yeah, the code should be:

Code:

Hitstun 4.0:[Phantom Wings] 42000000 80000000 80000000 80623320 80000001 00000000 60000006 00000000 60000003 00000001 4A001000 00000000 4A101001 00000000 32000000 0000001C 36000000 00000032 58010000 00000004 DE000000 80008180 58010000 00000060 DE000000 80008180 92210002 00000070 58010000 0000007C [COLOR="Lime"]34000038 00000042 36000038 00000049[/COLOR] 4A001002 00000000 58010000 00000024 58010000 0000000C 1400001C 00000088 14000018 00000088 E2000002 00000000 80100001 00000008 62000000 00000001 E200000F 00000000 80000001 00000000 80100000 00000244 62000000 00000000 045A9300 3ECCCCCD C276CCD4 00000002 C022FFE0 EF7C0072 60000000 00000000

That's what EXACTLY I did.

Edit: Also PW, I'm not even using 42000000 80000000 as part of my code and the game is playing perfectly. Any idea what's up?

IM_A_HUSTLA · Nov 22, 2008

lol, i already had it

can someone post this 1.3 code or does the fixed 1.4 work?

Omis · Nov 22, 2008

So what did Muba and PW actually change?

wazgood · Nov 22, 2008

lol i updated my wii once on the 15th. does this mean i am screwed?

kupo15 · Nov 22, 2008

Omfg! Ddd And Falco's Cg Are Gone!!!
Omfg! Ddd And Falco's Cg Are Gone!!!
Omfg! Ddd And Falco's Cg Are Gone!!!
Omfg! Ddd And Falco's Cg Are Gone!!!
Omfg! Ddd And Falco's Cg Are Gone!!!
Omfg! Ddd And Falco's Cg Are Gone!!!

IM_A_HUSTLA · Nov 22, 2008

@wazgood: pretty much until hackers find a way around the new fixes

@omis?:basically combined the 1.3 and 1.4 codes.......i think

wazgood · Nov 22, 2008

so was the 11/18 update just a even more **** version of the earlier one? ****

MuBa · Nov 22, 2008

It's true. The Chaingrabs of Falco and Dedede are GONE FOR GOOD!!

Rejoice!

Omis · Nov 22, 2008

kupo15 said:
Omfg! Ddd And Falco's Cg Are Gone!!!
Omfg! Ddd And Falco's Cg Are Gone!!!
Omfg! Ddd And Falco's Cg Are Gone!!!
Omfg! Ddd And Falco's Cg Are Gone!!!
Omfg! Ddd And Falco's Cg Are Gone!!!
Omfg! Ddd And Falco's Cg Are Gone!!!

That is a bad thing.

IM_A_HUSTLA · Nov 22, 2008

Falcon ***** Again
Falcon ***** Again
Falcon ***** Again

jmlee337 · Nov 22, 2008

I don't understand, how does the hitstun code kill 3D's and Falco's CGs?

poklin · Nov 22, 2008

im not seeing falcos CG gone but i did see ddds is gone when i was playing with these codes, MaD,gravity modifier 1.165, DD, lcancel, and damage modifier, DDD when he did his downthrow every character fell to the floor now i turned everything off but hitstun and down they just go out of range? but like i said on both falco could cg..

Omis · Nov 22, 2008

MUSTACHE
MUSTACHE
MUSTACHE

Take perfect out of the title. Severely crippling to charcters' metagame is not perfect.

MuBa · Nov 22, 2008

With proper DI Falco can't CG.

IM_A_HUSTLA · Nov 22, 2008

wow alot of those codes arent needed

all that is need is S-Cancel, Hitstun 2.0, and No Tripping

im stuck on this, i wish this was how brawl was originally,

this make brawl+ way, way, way, way, way, way, way, way better than plain brawl,

the characters are even more balanced from what I've seen so far, MK has combos but he can be combo'ed also, and CAPTAIN FALCON ***** AGAIN!!!!

Yeroc · Nov 22, 2008

MuBa, so using just the one code you quoted is sufficient?

Edit: Nevermind that part.

kupo15 · Nov 22, 2008

Yeroc said:
Request for CG explanation seconded.

Well, with my current code which i used 3F1, this puts all throws in the tumble. This means you can DI down away and tech. Im not sure what will happen with a lesser hitstun one. i am testing now

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