Higurashi Mafia - Game Over! Who won?

[SangfroidWarrior]

It depends on how you are wrong as to whether or not it's scummy.

Fair enough.

If you gain more from something else, then you don't want the first option.

Again, fair enough.

What is the vote-count on RR?

 

[tHe-Man]

There is literally no reason NOT to lynch Felipe. We get info on the people that refuse to lynch him (You, J), we get info on the people that are on his wagon (Me, Auspher, RR), along with info on the people that think hes scummy but think others are stronger scum reads or simply aren't voting him at this moment (Gheb, Sang). As you said, he has been completely useless. Why would we want to keep that in the town when all that does is keep a distraction in the town? How is he null over being scummy versus me and RR? According to you, we've all been useless and ********, yet hes null and we're scummy just because he has votes on him and we don't?

Falsity false false falsey-false.

I won't cry over a Felipe vig, but he's not the play today. None of that "info" you gain is going to stick and I find it highly unlikely that scum would let him get this close when there are so many other options?

Why do you disagree with this paragraph?

 

[tHe-Man]

Ryker...

This is null? Do you really want to call this null? This is not null at all.

Yup, null. His *** is all he's worried about.

@Sang - RR has three votes.

 

[tHe-Man]

http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/404770

 

[SangfroidWarrior]

Yup, null. His *** is all he's worried about.

And how is that not scummy?

Unvote. Vote: Red Ryu

 

[Deleted member]

Ryker...

This is null? Do you really want to call this null? This is not null at all.

This is why I'm at a loss at the mindset of some of these votes. The lynch is so freaking clear!!

Joey, I'll get back to your post when I'm NOT mobile. But can you post again and fix it up a little? I'm not sure who "You" is referring to in your posts when you already have my name listed.

 

[tHe-Man]

And how is that not scummy?

Unvote. Vote: Red Ryu

Better question, why is it scummy?

Pro-tip: I've already explained elsewhere in the thread before it became relevant.

 

[tHe-Man]

This is why I'm at a loss at the mindset of some of these votes. The lynch is so freaking clear!!

Joey, I'll get back to your post when I'm NOT mobile. But can you post again and fix it up a little? I'm not sure who "You" is referring to in your posts when you already have my name listed.

I'm Ryker.

J, is this dumb or scum? I'm at a ****ing loss.

 

[Dooms]

Sure Auspher.

Auspher, thoughts on my 590? Do you agree with my thoughts on Felipe and J or do you think I'm wrong? Who would you lynch right now out of J and Gheb?

@ Ryker (meaning that all you's below this are referring to Ryker): My scum/leaning reads in order:

Felipe
J
Auspher
You
Ori

There is literally no reason NOT to lynch Felipe. We get info on the people that refuse to lynch him (You, J), we get info on the people that are on his wagon (Me, Auspher, RR), along with info on the people that think hes scummy but think others are stronger scum reads or simply aren't voting him at this moment (Gheb, Sang). As you said, he has been completely useless. Why would we want to keep that in the town when all that does is keep a distraction in the town? How is he null over being scummy versus me and RR? According to you, we've all been useless and ********, yet hes null and we're scummy just because he has votes on him and we don't?

How does it get us no where? Do you really think we're going to get no reads from a Felipe lynch LOL?

 

[Dooms]

Yup, null. His *** is all he's worried about.

@Sang - RR has three votes.

Thats null? Uhhh no.

 

[tHe-Man]

 

[JTB]

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch!
Deadline 10/24, 11:59 PM EST

JO_OEY [0]
tHe-Man [1] MOD
Tandora [0]
Crimson King [0]
Red Ryu [4] tHe-Man, J, felipe_9595, SangfroidWarrior
ORI_bro [0]
felipe_9595 [3] Red Ryu, Auspher, JO_OEY
Auspher [0]
J [3] ORI_bro, Gheb, Crimson King
SangfroidWarrior [0]
Sworddancer [0]
Balatro [0]
Gheb [0]

Not Voting: Tandora, Balatro, Sworddancer

 

[#HBC | Dancer]

Sword, where the **** are you going right now? I can't see your track.

I'm confused by this question.

Are you asking me where my mind is, and where it's going?

If so, then I was just responding to J with my last post, clarifying some stuff for him.

Right now what I'm going to be doing is, in the near future, a reread on RR.

The one person I was actually leaning towards getting a lynch on was Ori, but from the attitude of everyone else I don't think that that is going to happen. J was a back up lynch.

Ryker, I'm quite confused as to how I was peddling bull****. Like what?

Btw I'm out for now, got papers to grade for some money.

 

[Dooms]

Falsity false false falsey-false.

I won't cry over a Felipe vig, but he's not the play today. None of that "info" you gain is going to stick and I find it highly unlikely that scum would let him get this close when there are so many other options?

Why do you disagree with this paragraph?

this paragraph as in what I bolded?

How will the info I gain from that lynch not stick? Scum wouldn't let him get this close? What? Hes L-4. Thats not something to consider "this close," first off. Second, what can scum do about it if three-four townies vote one of them? Defend him (which is what you/J are trying to do) of course, but that isn't going to stop the votes from coming in if his play is that bad. I'm not saying this is the case, since like I've said, Auspher, but saying that something is "highly unlikely" is a very weak and worthless defense, especially when you're wrong about it.

 

[#HBC | Dancer]

-dead-

out for real now, though

 

[tHe-Man]

How will the info I gain from that lynch not stick? Scum wouldn't let him get this close? What? Hes L-4. Thats not something to consider "this close," first off. Second, what can scum do about it if three-four townies vote one of them? Defend him (which is what you/J are trying to do) of course, but that isn't going to stop the votes from coming in if his play is that bad. I'm not saying this is the case, since like I've said, Auspher, but saying that something is "highly unlikely" is a very weak and worthless defense, especially when you're wrong about it.

What will you push on an RR townflip?

What will you push on an RR scumflip?

How did RR's flip affect this?

Close is measured in more than number of votes. Had I not stepped up and pushed an RR wagon after deciding J wasn't going to be lynched, then Felipe was general consensus lynch. Hell, before Swords got off the wagon, he was general consensus lynch with or without me. Scum would not let a null scum get to the point where deadline shenanigans could leave Felipe with the biggest wagon.

Joey, you're ********. It's easy to deflect a wagon early on. The easiest way would be to chainsaw in a scenario like this.

 

[tHe-Man]

Highly unlikely is a perfectly fine defense as that is how you find scum. You eliminate the improbable and, on the rare cases it is there, the impossible.

 

[tHe-Man]

EBWOP: Felipe flips, not RR.

 

[#HBC | J]

I'm Ryker.

J, is this dumb or scum? I'm at a ****ing loss.

Dummy, don't worry about him for the time being.

Swords, your reasoning for lynching me, although logical, is completely terrible and I will not stand to be a back-up lynch for info. Lynch someone else.

 

[#HBC | J]

Tanny should tell us where her vote is going to go since it seems everyone else has who is viewing at the current tiem.

 

[#HBC | J]

Swords, your opinion on me is what? Town or Scum?

 

[tHe-Man]

Hey Tanny ; )

 

[Dooms]

What will you push on an RR townflip?

What will you push on an RR scumflip?

How did RR's flip affect this?

Close is measured in more than number of votes. Had I not stepped up and pushed an RR wagon after deciding J wasn't going to be lynched, then Felipe was general consensus lynch. Hell, before Swords got off the wagon, he was general consensus lynch with or without me. Scum would not let a null scum get to the point where deadline shenanigans could leave Felipe with the biggest wagon.

Joey, you're ********. It's easy to deflect a wagon early on. The easiest way would be to chainsaw in a scenario like this.

On an RR town flip, I would push J and You.

On an RR scum flip, I would push Auspher.

Note that on either flip I would probably push Felipe over either side, since he would still obviously be scummy over both sides.

It didn't. At all. Hes still as scummy as ever.

Did you forget about Gheb completely? Gheb probably would have went over Felipe based on how many people were going in that direction before RR was brought up. From my standpoint, it was viewed as a J v Gheb type thing for the lynch.

Its not easy if their play is THAT bad, which it is in his case. Do you not realize how awful his play has been this whole game? Pull three quotes that have any townie intent in them at all and were viewed as townie. I dare you, because I know that you can't. He hasn't been townie at all this whole game. Its the perfect example of a perfect lynch.

Okay. I'll take back what I said about "Highly Unlikely" being a bad defense in general. However, I will say that the way you used "Highly Unlikely' is still a very weak defense, since scum can not control every wagon, and (just realized) that it looks like WIFOM as a whole, since we would have to look into if the scum is strong enough to do that, if scum is bussing him, or if scum cares about him at all.

 

[Dooms]

Hey Tanny ; )

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Tanny loves me. Not you :c.

 

[#HBC | J]

Pushing me toMorrow on a RR town flip won't do much of anything. It wouldn't go anywhere. If you wanna lynch me, toDay's the only day to try. Circus ain't in this game to kill me at the final Day. ;D

Why does Auspher come up if RR flips scum. I wouldn't pair those too.

 

[#HBC | J]

Tanny loves me and J. Not you .

Fixed it for you Joey. xP

 

[Dooms]

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Pushing me toMorrow on a RR town flip won't do much of anything. It wouldn't go anywhere. If you wanna lynch me, toDay's the only day to try. Circus ain't in this game to kill me at the final Day. ;D

Why does Auspher come up if RR flips scum. I wouldn't pair those too.[/QUOTE]

If you say so... (meaning that I don't care about what you say when it comes to me being able to push you)

I'm pretty sure both of them have been defending each other quite a bit. I haven't read up on RR in a while though, so I may have to do that next haha.

 

[Deleted member]

Why does Auspher come up if RR flips scum. I wouldn't pair those too.

Probably because I'm adamant in defending him, which is mainly because I simply don't understand why people are voting him.

 

[tHe-Man]

Set 'em straight, Tanny.

 

[tHe-Man]

Be back later.

 

[#HBC | J]

Oh Joey, you can push me all you want toMorrow, info may come out of it but I've been pushed enough toDay and I don't think a lynch will come about.

Auspher, when you have the chance, you should look at my posts w.r.t. Felipe vs. RR and some of TM's as well. That will give you a basis for why people are voting RR. Sang even commented and agreed with the premise of pushing his lynch.

Heading out for Dracula. May be back later tonight but may just go to sleep instead.

 

[Dooms]

Oh Joey, you can push me all you want toMorrow, info may come out of it but I've been pushed enough toDay and I don't think a lynch will come about.

Heading out for Dracula. May be back later tonight but may just go to sleep instead.

You're performing today or are you watching? Good luck and have fun!

Your lynch isn't out of the question at all unless I've missed a ton of people saying that you were town all of a sudden o_O'.

 

[Tandora]

Felipe's posts make me want to puke. He spends a lot of time accusing Auspher of sheeping yet look at all of his recent votes. Felipe makes a big deal of how he's only voting J to save his own *** without giving any reads or questions of his own. And he spends several posts only talking about how he has no internet.

He seems to be voting on popular wagons (like his Gheb, J, and RR votes).

I don't like him. Don't like him one bit.

VOTE FELIPE

Auspher is scummy for being a sheep and not having an own opinion.

Wait, what SD??? I am being accused of not thinking by myself??? Sorry, but it hink you were thinking in Auspher XP

Hey J, you know i am just voting to save my own ***, nothing personal bro, if i see the wagon takes another direction i will unvote.

Unvote

Vote:Gheb

Holy **** 10 users online, this looks like an EpicMafia game xD

Unvote

Vote: Red Ryu

Beeeheheehehehehe

And yeah, thats was sheep

 

[Tandora]

Is that scummy Tanny my dear?

Could you also tell me which of J/Felipe/Gheb your vote is leaning towards? If you say me, I'm probably gonna cry. ;_;

J, you're not off my radar, but I like Felipe's play not at all while you're still seesawing for me. Not gonna vote for Gheb, I believe he's town.

So, if you cry, I just want you to know your tears taste so sweet.

 

[Tandora]

Felipe, I want a character and role claim now.

 

[#HBC | Ryker]

I don't!

We can get one from him tomorrow if need be.

 

[Dooms]

Depending on where the people left on the J wagon go with their votes, I would/wouldn't like a claim as well.

I hope Gheb/Ori/CK get back on before deadline @_@'.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

I'm seething right now.

One sec, I gotta point out someone being a complete *******.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Ok before I address anything, gonna cover this pet peeve that pushed it too far.

You stop your own lynch. When you know your own alignment, you KNOW that you'll flip town. Lynching your town read gives you more of a chance to hit scum than letting yourself be lynched.

You.
Are.
So.
****ing.
********.

You learned absolutely nothing from MMX or Awkward mafia did you?

Putting your own self survival bull****, and letting others do it, it's absolutely grating and stupid.

Because you pushed people to keep yourself alive, everyone thought you were scum and you pretty much were one of the main reasons we lost MMX. You never addressed your wagon directly in either game, instead you said, "Hey guys this guy is a better lynch, let's go for him instead"

You did it without reading, as such got a cop lynched in one game, and caused a vengeful to make the dumbest shot of the choices he had available to keep yourself alive.

It;s anti-town, scummy, and hugely detrimental to the group.

I can't even fathom how you can say this isn't scummy or anti town at all. Your pretty much telling people it's ok to keep themselves alive by sheeping for opportunistic lynches, Raziek and The third Koopa, advicing every action to move away from you, Hey Tery shoot RR because I wanna super live and not shoot JTB or anyone else I just want to pick the one you want to shoot so I can live!"

Your terrible at mafia if you think this isn't at all scummy or detrimental to town.

~

While I'm catching up, tell me what separates me and Felipe, every point your brought up about me is exactly the **** he's done this game.

He's also been town in Awekard mafia you moron. I'm absolutely disgusted you are defending this mindset at all.

 

[Dooms]

Yeah, I'm not voting RR.