All that turkey must've went to y'alls head. Gordito needs to slooow down, stop and think. Swiss needs to slooow down also. Let's list the possibilities, instead of this blenderized logic y'all are making.
Basically it comes down to 1. Gordito is indy, 2. Swiss is mafia, 3. I am mafia.
1. I agree that Gordito is entirely out of line right now, I don't know what he's trying to accomplish. But you have to remember, there were 2 kills one night, and Gordito is claiming the shooter (vig in this case). I'm inclined to think that Mafia doesn't have a vig/hitman in a 9 v 3, so we can agree he's not mafia. If he's an indy, the numbers would have to be 9 v 2 v 1 (unless Swords made the mistake of going 8 v 3 v 1), which is a possibility.
I'm tired of this "SK always has to shoot" logic; it's not always true. Since there's a watcher in this game, and a uh mafia something like watcher, I would actually think it'd be
more likely for the vig to have the choice. And omg being easy to fakeclaim vig? Actually having to scumhunt the indy? That's absurd!
Saying Gordito = indy, means there's only 1 mafia left. That's the only way he ends out being scum. It's possible but unlikely, and up till recently I've thought he was town. Though, this would fit Swiss's "one of the noble team is scum" flavoring.
Assuming I'm town, this is also the ONLY way Swiss's "1 Noble = scum" works. Underlined for importance.
2.
I have yet to see reasoning as to why Sold or myself is scum.
I'll answer this (lol). It's process of elimination. Unless my above Gordito = indy situation is true, it has
to be one of us as scum. The "one of the nobles = scum" logic only works if I'm scum or Gordito is indy. Mentos is extremely unlikely to be scum (can we agree on this?). Of course, the other option is that you're scum and you're lying about this flavor.
Outside of that, you(Swiss) and I are the two players with the least confirmed town behind them. Except I think X1's confirmed town via combat knife is silly so I want to throw him into our group anyways.
3. Last option is that I'm scum. I'd be the untrustable noble in Swiss's flavor, and then Gordito could be Indy, Swiss could be my scummate, or X1 could be my scummate. Obviously I won't be following this option.
So basically for me, I'm either looking at Gordito and Swiss/X1, or I'm looking at Swiss and X1. Swiss and X1 as possible mafians, Gordito as Indy.
This is all assuming we can think of Mentos as cleared based on the unlikelyhood of him making a bluff this entire time and getting really lucky on Spagheb's death.
I wish I could be confirmed right now, so that we could lynch Swiss, shoot X1, and then if there was a next day, lynch Gordito. But that would mean everyone would have to trust me, and I guess it doesn't work that way.