Halloween Party Mafia ~ Over! Who drowned bobbing for apples? Who won Best Costume?

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

A Yakuza?

Dumb.

Not voting Asdioh, though I need to reread to check for something later.

 

[X1-12]

Just read the god damn thread. Every post I've made about J boils down most importantly to his manipulative and underhand/sly nature and everything I've made about Asdioh is about how he hasn't tried to scumhunt despite being around and posting. Linking my original posts about them wont help and merely looking at any 1 of Asdioh's or J's posts wil be sufficient evidence if you feel you need it

 

[X1-12]

RR why the change from yesterday viz a viz Asdioh

 

[X1-12]

well actually I don't remember you doing anything yesterDay but on D2 you definitely wanted J lynched and I'm pretty certain you haven't posted anything for why you believe Asdioh to be town since

 

[Asdioh]

@mod: can you change the Dead Players collapse tag to include the Alive Players as well, and put me/JTB into our proper replacement slots?

1. JO_OEY X1-12
2. Gova
3. Acrostic JTB
4. Raziek Gheb_01
5. Red Ryu
6. July
7. Soupamario Vult Redux
8. Ranmaru
9. J Asdioh
10. asianaussie
11. Shadow Moth
12. SangfroidWarrior
13. traveling cat Tandora

Kinda like that.

X1, do you have any scumreads that are correct?

 

[Asdioh]

I have to go do a bunch of gogdamned yardwork and **** now and forever until we sell this house.

But later tonight I should start giving reads and not being lazy.

@Asdioh: You're too lazy to actually try to scumhunt but not too lazy to post regularly with sideshow commentary??

This is pretty normal for me, though I do scumhunt when I'm current. I'll try to be current with at least Day 3 and Day 4, and anything else of value that anyone cares to point out to me.

Which reminds me, someone give me the list of freaking claims please :|

 

[X1-12]

Haha. Asdioh is scum, beyond that its a toss up between RR, Ran, Gheb and maybe JTB/Vult.

You've been current since you replaced in... yet you have not scumhunted


AA claimed Warrren T warwick (SP?) the main Ewok from Star Wars VI
Ryker claimed Aunt Sponge from james and giant peach

Thats all I can remember


How have these claims helped you?????????????????????????????????????

 

[JTB]

X1, do you have any scumreads that are correct?

Uh, what is this?

 

[X1-12]

He's talking with the assumption that he is town and therefore acting like my scumread on him is incorrect.

 

[X1-12]

For JTBs lazy ***

@J: You literally don't care for attacking me but whenever I attack you, you suddenly mention all the "soooo scummy things I've done" and the "ridiculous amount of stuff I've ignored" without ever giving any indication of what/where these things are rather than a vague description.

I write: "You are equally scummy"

You write: "You think I'm scummier??? and then write a whole paragraph calling what I have written crap (implied scummy) based off the original statement [bolded above] which is completely false.

Also seriously will you stop with the underhand attacks/responses. You called my first post a fail before even repsonding to it, you tell TCat my points against you are BS when TCat just asks for reasons, not your tainted opinion on them. If your defence against my points is sufficieintly legit, why do you need to write "oh my gosh these points are so bleck, this is completely outrageous and sooooo scummy from X1"

This.

Thisthisthisthsithis.

J you are playing sly and underhand, in every post you attempt to manipulate and taint others' opinions.

You are not this bad at mafia, so there must be a reason why you are doing this.

You guys are literally nit-picking my grammar. Is that seriously why you dislike me this game because of the difference in text?

It's not just grammar, though. You misconstrue other's posts to draw scummy conclusions. You're not normally this bad - so I have to question what has changed.

As for Asdioh you need this link so you can read the posts of his I quoted: http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?p=13318215#post13318215

Literally everything you post is just pointing stuff out or incredibly shallow analysis. At no point during this game do you look like you've even tried to analyse the motivation behind a post

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

RR why the change from yesterday viz a viz Asdioh

Mostly me not liking anyone who was on his wagon yesterday.

Didn't even look like a bus from Ryker.

 

[X1-12]

ryker was only on asdioh because it was second biggest wagon, why do you think he would not do this if asdioh were scum?

 

[Asdioh]

Uh, what is this?

I'm saying he's focusing on one person (me) to the exclusion of all else, and that person is town. That, from my POV, is antitown.

"Correct" would be a bad word to use, I suppose. I wouldn't even know if his other reads were correct or not, were he to give me them. Regardless, I'd know that his other reads are more likely to be scum than me.

@X1's scumreads: currently thinking RR and Ran are town. Might double check on that, but that's my current feeling. The others are entirely possible.

now I'm going to go shopping for more mulch for the stupid yard.

 

[#HBC | Nabe]

Ranmaru has been prodded!

 

[Tandora]

Owls in the forest announce the rising of the sun, as the library crew mourns its newest loss.

Swiss was dressed as Kazran Sardick, as seen in A Christmas Carol (2010), an episode of Doctor Who, and was town.​

You wonder if Christmas will ever be cheerful again. Although first, you'll have to make it through Halloween.


Day 4 begins! Deadline is September 17th at 1500 EST.

With 13 players remaining, it's 7 votes to lynch.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vE9pq2hKFMw

A little off topic post because Dr Who Christmas Special is AWESOME.

 

[Tandora]

Now what is really unusual is that Sworddancer's character doesn't fit the original theme at all whereas Ryker's does, as did his fake costume claim

What do you mean by original theme?

We actually ARE lynching Asdioh toDay no **** and no messing about. We might be lynching Gheb tomorrow.

Why that order?

 

[Tandora]

In the meantime, can anyone give me (and JTB) a full list of who has claimed so far, and what they've claimed?

EBR - Aunt Sponge from James and the Giant Peach (claim)
John Watson from Sherlock Holmes (true flip)
J/Asidioh - Lady Van Tassal from Sleepy Hollow
Ranmaru - Wicket W. Warrick from The Phantom Menance
Dark Horse - Italian Guy at the Vatican from Eurotrip.
Circus - Marvin from The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy
Sworddancer - Alice from Tim Burton's Alice in Wonderland. A difference face was pasted over hers.
Swiss - Kazran Sar**** from Dr Who Christmas Special

I think that's everyone. If I missed anyone, I'm sorry.

 

[Asdioh]

Ranmaru has been prodded!

He was viewing earlier.

Oh, Tandora ninja! Thanks Tan.

Spoiler

You replaced in after me, didn't you? Way to read more than me.

@X1: it's to help me figure out the theme. Which.. isn't really helping me still, I'm pretty pitiful. One of J's guesses was "classic movie mafia" which is funny because many of these movies aren't classic.
Also, I was thinking Doctor Who was a TV series, so the theme couldn't be Movie Mafia... but is the Christmas Special a movie?

 

[Asdioh]

[collapse=important posts]day 1
day 1 extended
night 1
day 2
night 2
day 3
night 3
day 4
[/collapse]

（╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻

brb finding those MYSELF.

 

[Tandora]

He was viewing earlier.

Oh, Tandora ninja! Thanks Tan.

Spoiler

You replaced in after me, didn't you? Way to read more than me.

@X1: it's to help me figure out the theme. Which.. isn't really helping me still, I'm pretty pitiful. One of J's guesses was "classic movie mafia" which is funny because many of these movies aren't classic.
Also, I was thinking Doctor Who was a TV series, so the theme couldn't be Movie Mafia... but is the Christmas Special a movie?

For what it is worth, Nabe contacted me when J was going to replace so I've been reading the thread since about the same time you joined.

Doctor Who is a tv series. I suppose the Christmas Specials would be considered movies much the same way if you considered a Charlie Brown Christmas Special a movie.

 

[Asdioh]

I see. So is the flavor Movie Mafia?
Nah, that'd bee too easy and cheesy.

http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?p=13235535#post13235535 force me to read from there and develop stronger reads, after I get back from washing dishes.

 

[Tandora]

（╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻

brb finding those MYSELF.

┬─┬ノ( º _ ºノ)

You realize that won't help you find people who claimed but didn't die, right?

 

[Asdioh]

Were there others that claimed? I wasn't looking for claims there, I was just looking for the Day starts so I can read.

Come, Tandora! Walk through the flows of time with me and look upon the scumtells of the Past.

 

[Vult Redux]

@Shadow Moth: Who are your scum picks now?

Vote: Gheb

Gheb, respond to my #1344. Everyone else, read it as well and if you don't agree with the fact that Gheb was bull****ting all D2 and D3 about his read on EBR then tell me why.

I did this since I was curious about Gheb since I had conflicting vibes about him.

I agree a lot with your first point. Gheb's criticizing your post length - claiming that you deliberately lengthened your case to make it seems stronger - not only is a major stretch, but comes off as so stretched that it seems deliberately manipulative.

At one point, you bring up that he'd been pushing inactives? Do you think that you would chalk that as scummy? I saw it as Town.

I lot of your case seems to depend on Gheb and EBR being buddied and aware of it. I don't think that THIS is a safe assumption.

However, I would argue that your point about Gheb flipping to an inactive lynch is an even stronger point than you make it out to be. I've been thinking of this on the assumption that scum don't know their buddies yet, and if THAT'S the case, then scum have a LOT of incentive to try to run No-Lynches. Prevents accidentally killing off their partner. I also thought that that would be a good reason to look at the inactives. If you're just lurking through, then you run less risk of turning on a buddy by accident. You know what I mean?

 

[Tandora]

Were there others that claimed? I wasn't looking for claims there, I was just looking for the Day starts so I can read.

Come, Tandora! Walk through the flows of time with me and look upon the scumtells of the Past.

Any suggestions on where to start? I tend to do individidual ISOs starting with the least posts and working (in theory) to my way to the top. However, I think I'm gonna look at either EBR's or Swiss's first.

At everyone else, doesn't EBR's feud with J/asidioh imply that slot is town?

 

[Asdioh]

Because a Ran lynch is much more viable and I'm perfectly fine with it.

I think J is scum because his push on EBR seemed real and that was a damn stupid push and I know J isn't usually that dumb. Jumping on someone's wagon when they've barely posted in late D1 is scummy imo. Unless of course they're the inactive lynch.

btw, you guys realize that Moth hasn't posted in 6 days?

*skype fingers twitch*



How do people have asianaussie as town? I trusted Swiss, but I'm not going to blindly trust all of his reads. One of the "towniest" posts from AA I could find was this: http://www.smashboards.com/showpost.php?p=13235702&postcount=610 and his subsequent "vs EBR" posts, but there was no pressure involved at all, it was just "EBR do stuff" to which EBR responded "no u" and it could easily be SvS.
http://www.smashboards.com/showpost.php?p=13239972&postcount=680 yet this post looks pretty good.

No time. At all. I apologise profusely to Nabe, I should have seen this coming. Anyone who wants an apology for my inactivity can have it as well.

I will have time to play by next Monday, but until then I'm in full study mode.

vote: EBR

Never mind, he helped lynch EBR. Must be to-

ok, definitely town.

spoilers: I just iso'd AA because he's been a sore nonpresence in my eyes. I'm going to call him town, and if he's scum then I'll be damned if we can find any way to figure that out, with how inactive he's been/going to continue being.





...dammit I have no idea who's scum. I hate large games, I hate replacements, I hate inactives, I hate that people killed Swiss.

 

[Asdioh]

However, I would argue that your point about Gheb flipping to an inactive lynch is an even stronger point than you make it out to be. I've been thinking of this on the assumption that scum don't know their buddies yet, and if THAT'S the case, then scum have a LOT of incentive to try to run No-Lynches. Prevents accidentally killing off their partner. I also thought that that would be a good reason to look at the inactives. If you're just lurking through, then you run less risk of turning on a buddy by accident. You know what I mean?

Bleck. I've been playing this game with the assumption that mafia do know their partners, because otherwise that would suck all sorts of *** for scum if they're bad at guessing the theme, like I am. It might explain all the replacements though (but not J of course)
Then again, it might also make the game suck for town too, because it's like hunting a bunch of indies, and that's a pain in the ***.

Any suggestions on where to start? I tend to do individidual ISOs starting with the least posts and working (in theory) to my way to the top. However, I think I'm gonna look at either EBR's or Swiss's first.

I just linked D2, that's basically where I meant. You might have already read it, I dunno.
I read it for a bit, got kind of annoyed with some of J's reads (glad I made amends with Swiss while I still could) and then got bored and did an iso of AA. I like your ISO theory, it's exactly what I do when I'm trying to remember what stances certain players have had.
If you feel there's a need to look through EBR/Swiss, go ahead. I generally ignore the posts of dead townies, unless I feel like they were really onto something, because at that point I know that they knew as much as I do (unless they had some informative role)
Looking through EBR's posts might be helpful, but also might just be a bunch of wifom.

I'd start with players that are hot topics, such as X1 or Gheb, who seem like potential lynches toDay.

I should look at Tcat's posts, I guess. I know absolutely zero about that slot, besides a few of your posts when you came in.

 

[Asdioh]

Please don't bring those games up. I have such trauma from them.

You take heat for RQS and then in turn put a vote on me just because I haven't posted?

His first post and I already think he's scum, because he literally just defends himself from one vote, throws out an accusation at Ran for voting him, and that's it. :/

rest of his posts are null, or at least I'll say they are.

Will reread D3 at some point, because that was fairly short and I was (somewhat...) involved.


[collapse=don't look at this, it's for my eyes only]Who I seriously need to look at more:
JO_OEY X1-12 (he's scum this game, right?)
Gova (zero memory of what he's done, must be scum)
Acrostic JTB (I like JTB so far)
Raziek Gheb_01 (people seem to want to lynch him, but I haven't really read anything from him)
Red Ryu (had him as town from the first few pages of the game that I read, but I don't remember anything besides that)
July (ALWAYS scum. Always. But probably not this game, unless she and EBR staged a catfight.)
SangfroidWarrior
traveling cat Tandora (Tcat looked bleck, Tan looked good at first glance)

Who is town:
Soupamario Vult Redux
Ranmaru
J Asdioh
asianaussie (why not)
Shadow Moth (too lazy to explain)
[/collapse]I'm assuming there are around 3-4 scum left. First off, @everyone: in my green list, what one person would you completely disagree with being there? Does anyone have scumreads on any of those people?


Mostly done for the night, this crap takes too long. I won't be extremely active, because I'm working all week, and getting the house ready for selling, and more importantly, video games. I should be on at least a little bit every night though.

 

[Shadow Moth]

Just saw the swiss flip. If he's town I was sorely mistaken. Ryker's most likely scum then.

Vote: EBR

WHERE YOU AT, BRO?

 

[Asdioh]

Just saw the swiss flip. If he's town I was sorely mistaken. Ryker's most likely scum then.

Vote: EBR

WHERE YOU AT, BRO?

Someone quick! I need the most original, and most amazing facepalm picture you can find me!

 

[Asdioh]

Smoth is still town though.

 

[Vult Redux]

At everyone else, doesn't EBR's feud with J/asidioh imply that slot is town?

So you don't think he was a Yakuza?

Bleck. I've been playing this game with the assumption that mafia do know their partners, because otherwise that would suck all sorts of *** for scum if they're bad at guessing the theme, like I am. It might explain all the replacements though (but not J of course)
Then again, it might also make the game suck for town too, because it's like hunting a bunch of indies, and that's a pain in the ***.

I mean it would be logical to have a role as powerful as Yakuza if they were disadvantaged.

But I don't think Nabe would use that kind of role. If anything, I'd guess we're dealing with a Psychologist + Third Party made Town.

Smoth is still town though.

why

 

[asianaussie]

because swiss said so

i dunno how active im gonna be

i agree with everyone in asdioh's town list except possibly asdioh, because J was a dirk

 

[Gova]

At everyone else, doesn't EBR's feud with J/asidioh imply that slot is town?

It's like you didn't even play FF9 mafia.

 

[Tandora]

It's like you didn't even play FF9 mafia.

In a lot of ways, I didn't.

What part are you thinking of? o.o

J vs Kuz?

 

[Gova]

More like the Ryker part of AM v J.

What I'm really saying is that his feud with J does not imply that J is town.

 

[Asdioh]

:|:|:|:|:|:|:|:|:|:| @ people not thinking I'm town.

Thanks AA, at least you're honest. What's a dirk, besides a type of dagger?

 

[asianaussie]

it's a type of dagger and nothing else lol

i've taken to using the word as a filler noun to describe people

 

[July]

July don't you think Ryker would have claimed it during Twilight then?

I don't think that is necessarily true, it depends on risk v. reward analysis. Announcing the theme during twilight would have unlocked all scum and town prs, so if he thought town prs could have some weight (like a scummate would be an easy cop target) then that could have factored into it.

How's this:July is reaching so hard to push J/me as scum that she just HAS to be town.

Is this based on some precedent of me reaching for you or J as scum?

Also, that was only one post to show that EBR and your interactions seem not only chummy but instructive, and if you are both scum that doesn't make sense for him to instruct you in the thread unless scum lacks or lacked private communication at that point. If you want more reasons why you are scummy a couple other posts stood out just while looking at your interactions with EBR. Like here:

Ryker town flip? Uhm I'd have to double check Swords/July but regardless of push, I like what they have been bringing forth with said lynch. X1's rapid push on EBR at the last second is weird considering he hasn't done anything w.r.t. that wagon up till now but I doubt scumX1 would do that because he would know the outcome of it. Vult would probably need to be looked into a bit more because the vibe a few people are getting from that is that it's TvS and most people have EBR as the scum. You, yourself, would probably need to be looked at but I don't even ****ing know anymore at this point. Moth's defense of him I see really no problem with so that would stay the same. I don't know what else could be gained upon that. RR you deffo need to be looked into more because his vote is opportunistic and has not explained a single damn reason as to why EBR is scum. AA too because his vote just came in and he left based off that.

Ryker scum flip? I haven't thought about this equation much at all because I haven't looked into possibly scum-buddies but uhm Swords/July/You would be more town. Don't know about X1 because his push could be taken as a bus attempt *since he mentioned he figured out the flavour, this could be a possibility*. RR I'd still like to look into him more because in the fact that scum-buddies do not know their scum-mates he could still be looking for any easy lynch. Moth, I still find is town. AA idk, doesn't really do much for me of anything. Vult would look a hella lot more town too from a scumEBR flip. I don't really know of any more connections off the top of my head.

J's explanation of who would be scum on an EBR flip is extremely convoluted and in the end he comes up with the fact that he'd like to look into X1, RR and AA. Throwing X1 in to be looked at regardless of an EBR flip is also scummy. He comes up with bull**** reasoning for why he would need looked into on a scum EBR flip as well as a town EBR flip. It's forced reasoning to try and get X1 on the chopping block no matter what after an EBR lynch. If X1 is was a scum pick regardless of EBR's flip then he could have just said that instead of trying to forge a connection between EBR/X1.

Haha. Asdioh is scum, beyond that its a toss up between RR, Ran, Gheb and maybe JTB/Vult.

You've been current since you replaced in... yet you have not scumhunted


AA claimed Warrren T warwick (SP?) the main Ewok from Star Wars VI
Ryker claimed Aunt Sponge from james and giant peach

Thats all I can remember


How have these claims helped you?????????????????????????????????????

X1, what are your thoughts on Gova and Sang? Why JTB/Vult as possible scum?

I did this since I was curious about Gheb since I had conflicting vibes about him.

I agree a lot with your first point. Gheb's criticizing your post length - claiming that you deliberately lengthened your case to make it seems stronger - not only is a major stretch, but comes off as so stretched that it seems deliberately manipulative.

At one point, you bring up that he'd been pushing inactives? Do you think that you would chalk that as scummy? I saw it as Town.

I lot of your case seems to depend on Gheb and EBR being buddied and aware of it. I don't think that THIS is a safe assumption.

However, I would argue that your point about Gheb flipping to an inactive lynch is an even stronger point than you make it out to be. I've been thinking of this on the assumption that scum don't know their buddies yet, and if THAT'S the case, then scum have a LOT of incentive to try to run No-Lynches. Prevents accidentally killing off their partner. I also thought that that would be a good reason to look at the inactives. If you're just lurking through, then you run less risk of turning on a buddy by accident. You know what I mean?

Thank you for reading my post

I think the fact that he supported an EBR lynch in one post, and understood why the case on EBR was forming. Then only 5 posts later he comes to the revelation that the EBR wagon is wrong and up and starts pushing inactive lynches? It's just too sudden of a jump and too perfectly timed to help force the no lynch for me to believe its genuine. I agree that inactivity is a problem, but yesterDay Gheb refused to join the EBR wagon, which he claimed he believed was scummy, because lynching an inactive will always have a good outcome, which I don't believe. It seemed opportunistic and an easy way to stay off the EBR wagon while gaining town cred for pushing inactives.

I do see what you mean, I've been running off the assumption that the scum buddies do know who their partners. However, whether they do or do not they still have an incentive to try and push a no lynch because (unless a protective role guesses the theme) there is very little chance of their nk not going through so they can keep picking off townies while maintaining their numbers and minimalizing new information provided through flips during the Day.

Vult, who are your scum picks?

At everyone else, doesn't EBR's feud with J/asidioh imply that slot is town?

No, remember that EBR and J started off battling each other but by the time EBR's wagon was the only realistic wagon, J's feelings towards EBR and an EBR lynch were this:

EBR, I've said this before, I don't want your ****ing lynch whatsoever (pardon the language, good moods get me sounding like a sailor lmao) but yeah I've been trying to fight your lynch for a damn good while.

Gheb will switch to RR, you will to save your *** and I can most def swing an RR lynch if you give me an hour or two to make my family dinner and eat it hahaha. I honestly do believe RR is scummier than Acro and Acro lynch will gain nothing, with RR there is at least something there and from what is there, it's scummy.

Swords even said he found RR scummy so in the hindsight of a NL or RR, he will choose RR over keeping his vote on you. I bet the same with go for Sang because she has expressed like on you. IDK about X1 since his attack on you atm seems a bit heated when this is the first I am hearing of him. Gova/Acro will vote to stop a NL. If anyone else comes in and views the thread seeing the votes putting RR at L-2 over anyone else, they will vote him.

Acro lynch is just meeeeeeeeh because it's like a literal D1 again.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Are people not getting what they are guessing for?