Halloween Party Mafia ~ Over! Who drowned bobbing for apples? Who won Best Costume?

[Gova]

Gova, I see you lurking. You planning on doing anything toDay? You've made four posts D4. Two of them basically say "EBR could have been trying to make Asdioh look town," which gives no insight of your view on the matter. One post says "Ranmaru u no here y?" and the last one seems to be a disagreement with Gheb on the philosophy of what's scummy wrt preventing scum lynches.

lol, You continue J's legacy of twisting words to your benefit.

More like the Ryker part of AM v J.

What I'm really saying is that his feud with J does not imply that J is town.

And, it isn't a philosophy. See: Ducktales, where I called for a hammer on Ryker but then Kuz just straight up prevented his lynch by telling everyone he was town + making a case on CR. Had Soup not voted me and I being alpha'd, Kuz would be the only one who could have possibly been his scummate.

Who are your scumpicks, and why? I don't think you've given clear scumreads all game, looking over your posts. I also think EBR was the only vote you cast, as far as I saw. Which I approve of, but still.

Scumpicks? I'm looking at you, Gheb, Ran and other people.

You have relatively few posts (lower than me I daresay, and you've been here since D1) and you really don't seem to do much at all. You lay low, trying not to make yourself a target, and keep asking for people to out the theme, which screams Indy to me. Does that sound like a reasonable accusation?

And I daresay I've done more than you in less posts. Lol @ thinking I'm indy.

I like this post.
Judging by this post, I take it you have a strong town read on X1?

Yeah sure.

But what's your alignment

Town, obv. Not only am I 2 for 2 on scum (Sword and EBR), you even said I was town yourself. Feel free to pass it off as a joke even though reads aren't really something you should be joking about.

 

[Gova]

Oh right, and the where in the world is Ranmaru post at should be read more literally as "July, where is Ranmaru at? It's uncharacteristic of him to be inactive."

 

[July]

Oh right, and the where in the world is Ranmaru post at should be read more literally as "July, where is Ranmaru at? It's uncharacteristic of him to be inactive."

Correlation does not equal causation...but he downloaded League of Legends and has been inactive everywhere since. So my guess is that League of Legends has something to do with it.

 

[ranmaru]

Uh, I still think Asdioh is scum.

Vote: Asdioh

X1 is second pick, and I support a Gheb lynch at deadline.

 

[ranmaru]

I'm looking at your posts, and you seem like you really didn't want Ran lynched D1, which is where I pretty much got my townread on him. What happened since then to change that?

I don't understand this. Please explain this further.

Going to sleep. Got homework to do. Got class today.

 

[SangfroidWarrior]

I'm looking at your posts, and you seem like you really didn't want Ran lynched D1, which is where I pretty much got my townread on him. What happened since then to change that?

I didn't want his lynch D1 because I feel that he would have been a ML. I much more wanted DH's lynch. Now, though, after I went back and re-read a while ago, I feel that Ran is somebody I have to be wary of because, although I still see the town intent behind some of his posts, some of them have been pretty scummy IMO.

 

[~ Gheb ~]

Ran with dat super-obvious pseudo-contribution. Scuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuumbag.

 

[Asdioh]

lol, You continue J's legacy of twisting words to your benefit.

I'm not trying to paint it as scummy, I'm just saying 1434 and 1436. You state that it's a nulltell at best, but don't comment on what you think my alignment is.

 

[Gova]

...You missed my point.

Why did you say I said EBR was trying to make you look town, when I didn't?

 

[~ Gheb ~]

How was the EBR lynch "largely random" compared to you and EBR's proposed Acrostic wagon?

Points like these are exactly why I hate wading through your walls because it's already been answered. Nobody had points on EBR that I agreed with [except Vult but he only elaborated one Day phase later] and the reasoning I found myself the next Day was stronger than the half-***** garbage from Swiss, Ryu or yourself. And these 3 are the only people that even bothered to comment on it.

Also to reiterate, there was NO realistic chance of getting someone else lynched.

Yes, there was. There absolutely was.

Also, you say you found Acrostic more suspect

Citation needed.

Don't say there is nothing for you to respond to, you want to make up excuses after the fact of switching from EBR to Acrostic when at the time you had no substantiation and you just want to ignore anything against you because according to you we are singling you out for your role, or lack of a role in the EBR lynch. EXCEPT Asdioh is on the chopping block in part for the same reasons, I find his switch off of EBR D2 at the last minute and commitment to fighting EBR's lynch scummy as well, so don't act like you are such a victim here.

Excuses? I'm pretty sure I've explained in great detail how the question of "guilt" doesn't even apply in that case.
Asdioh isn't on the chopping block for the same reasons and if he is that only goes to show how ****ing horrible this town is. X1 and Sang have been pushing Asdioh earlier without any comparison to how I play this game [which wouldn't even make a lot of sense anyway].

But I realize there's a lot of sheep in this game just looking for an excuse to not commit to anything and just follow the crowd. I guess it's better to make myself a brainless tool like them and just agree with whatever comes up.

No no no, my point is that you consciously hoped off the EBR wagon which you supported a whole 5 ****ing posts before you hoped onto an Acrostic wagon which had no reason other than he was an inactive but then you retroactively apply meaning to it by saying that the EBR lynch was random, which contradicts what you said in your #795, and that Acrostic was more suspect, which contradicts your actions considering you voted him with no substantiation at the time in your #800 while there was plenty of reasons to suspect EBR and you even gave credence to some of those in your #795. Your actions are inconsistent and while you claimed you would get on the EBR wagon if necessary you showed both D2 and D3 you were opposed to the lynch and when it was necessary you still didn't care to switch your vote to EBR, so you lied about your feelings towards the EBR lynch as well and then snapped at everyone who pointed that out because apparently your vote was of better use on an inactive.

None of that is scummy.

 

[Asdioh]

Town, obv. Not only am I 2 for 2 on scum (Sword and EBR), you even said I was town yourself. Feel free to pass it off as a joke even though reads aren't really something you should be joking about.

When did I say that? http://www.smashboards.com/showpost.php?p=13334692&postcount=1428 (collapse tags)

Remember D.gray man? I faked a scumread on you most of the game, but if I wasn't scum in that game, I would have legitimately had a major scumread on you. Since I pretty much knew you were town in that game, I had to assume instead that you were some PR, but in this game I don't have that benefit. There's something about the way you play that makes me suspicious. But if you claim your track record is 2 for 2, then that's a bonus. Now if only people would look at my damn track record since I replaced in. You can talk all you want about me fluffing or whatever, but what matters is that all I've done this game is lynch EBR, who flipped scum.

I don't understand this. Please explain this further.

Going to sleep. Got homework to do. Got class today.

Which part, the part about her switching her read on you, or me having a townread on you? My townread was when I read the first few pages, your RQS stuff seemed like a townie eager to get the game rolling. That's how I read it, despite what others may think.
These are examples of why I though Sang really didn't want you lynched, and I was wondering why you are now "null" to her:

Everyone's votes are so spread out and there's so much inactivity that I loathe to admit a Ranmaru lynch may be the only possibility.

Lol so at least we agree Ran shouldn't die.

 

[Asdioh]

...You missed my point.

Why did you say I said EBR was trying to make you look town, when I didn't?

Let me rephrase then.
EBR could have been making me look town, or he couldn't have, so people should stop taking EBR's actions towards me as a towntell on my behalf.

That's pretty much what I meant. All I'm saying is, it's an easy, neutral thing for you to say, and without a push for info from me, you wouldn't have given your own thoughts on the matter. Only now that I've asked do I know that you actually consider me scummy.

 

[~ Gheb ~]

July / Tandora, knowing you two I'm fairly certain that you have not considered the fact that I could be town at all. What would your plans be if I flip town? That's not a rhetorical question and I think it's pretty important to know. It's annoying how July ignores my requests to debunk my arguments on why Ranmaru is scum. How long are you gonna turn a blind eye to how scummy he is? How long are you gonna john for his recent non-input?

 

[Asdioh]

Hey Gheb, sorry that I've ignored your reasons for Ran being scummy, but I think it's about time I looked at them. Can you point me out to some of your posts that had points against him?

I might be willing to believe you're town, despite the fact that you're still alive on D4

 

[Gova]

Hmm, well I don't read stuff in collapse tags. So that settles that. You quoted the picture of me where I drew shades on myself and you called me town.

 

[~ Gheb ~]

What has he done other than to fish for pro-town credit all over the place Day 1? No genuine stances, no contributions *at all* during the later course of the game - he might be annoying with all his fruitless questions and endless debates in the other games he's played so far but at least he sticks to his believes and tries any way he can [even if it's bound to not work out]. This time around he's literally doing the opposite - not doing anything on his own while taking credit for stuff that any other scumbag could. I mean he's trying to blend in with the town. Are you even aware what that means?!?

 

[Shadow Moth]

Okay so uh...
Ryker is dead. :x My bad.

Right now I'm looking at Asdioh and X1 as scum.

Vote: Asdioh

 

[Asdioh]

Hmm, well I don't read stuff in collapse tags. So that settles that. You quoted the picture of me where I drew shades on myself and you called me town.

Oh yeah. I guess I'll have to stick with that. If you turn out to be scum, I might cry.

Okay so uh...
Ryker is dead. :x My bad.

Right now I'm looking at Asdioh and X1 as scum.

Vote: Asdioh

literally


don't know what to say anymore. I'm at like L-2, lol. People seem to want to lynch me "just because."

 

[Asdioh]

And I'll point out that some of these scumpicks make no sense to me. The scumpicks people are listing seem EXTREMELY unlikely to be scum together, unless people are just saying "at least one scum lies in x, y, and z" if which is the case, it seems like people are just willing to take a shot in the dark and hope they get lucky. What I mean:

Scumpicks? I'm looking at you, Gheb, Ran and other people.

How likely is it that Gheb and Ran are scummates, or that me and Ran are scummates?

Uh, I still think Asdioh is scum.

Vote: Asdioh

X1 is second pick, and I support a Gheb lynch at deadline.

How likely is it AT ALL that X1 and I are scummates? It should seem so blatantly obvious that this is not the case, we've been at each other's throats (or at least he's been at mine)

Okay so uh...
Ryker is dead. :x My bad.

Right now I'm looking at Asdioh and X1 as scum.

Vote: Asdioh

Again, same thing.


sigh

 

[~ Gheb ~]

Totally agreed with Asdioh's point here. A lof of people are so blatantly cruising through this game, put no effort into scumhunting whatsoever and just throw out a "would lynch [popular pick] and [whack read] brb disappearing forever" that I'm really inclined to just agree with lynching these people on principle just like I wanted to to with Acrostic.

I mean you guys knee-jerk the shit out of me not lynching EBR but it's totally OK for Gova to not do ANYTHING and say "I'm looking at Gheb, Ran and other people". Seriously? Who are the "other people"? Why are Ran and me? Does he think we're scummates? Does he think anything at all or is he just a huge detriment at best? Smoth is flith, Gova is filth, Ranmaru is filthy, filthy scum and nobody gives a **** about Asdioh trying to make an argument against the points if said points only existed. How many people that vote Asdioh actually have a reason to vote him? X1 and Sang - OK, they've been there before and explained it. But the rest? Just tools along for the ride...

 

[Gova]

QQ more Gheb. If you throw a hissyfit like you did in Pulp Fiction I'll put you as town.

:teehee:

 

[~ Gheb ~]

lol

 

[Asdioh]

How many people that vote Asdioh actually have a reason to vote him? X1 and Sang - OK, they've been there before and explained it. But the rest? Just tools along for the ride...

Exactly. The only one I don't mind voting for me is X1, because he's put effort into it, even if he's wrong. I might even be ok with Sang's vote. The rest are just absurd, and how people are letting them get away with it, I don't even know.

@mod: request votecount

The people voting for me, aside from X1 and Sang, are either scum, or town that are beyond deadweight.

Red Ruy is town, he's at least not willing to throw his vote around just because.

Gova might be town, Gheb, what do you think about him besides the fact that he's lazy?

Gheb is town. If he's scum, and he's one of the few in the game with his head screwed on right, then just give scum the win, stop wasting our time with this disgusting inactive/replacetastic nastiness.

Smoth for some reason I have a town read on, but dear god what is this.

 

[X1-12]

By the way I will always appear as town when investigated, regardless of whether I am targeted by Tailor/Lawyer etc. Would have claimed this info earlier but was only just informed about it due to mod error

 

[Asdioh]

okie

was that part of your claim? What was your full claim?

 

[#HBC | Nabe]

Votecount 4-2

7/13 to lynch.

Asdioh [3]: SangfroidWarrior, Ranmaru, Shadow Moth
Gheb [2]: July, Tandora
X1-12 [1]: JTB
Ranmaru [1]: Gheb


Not voting: X1-12, Gova, Red Ryu, Vult Redux, Asdioh, asianaussie

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[collapse=Vote Log] X1-12
Gova
JTB > X1
Gheb > Ranmaru
Red Ryu
July > Gheb
Vult Redux
Ranmaru > Asdioh
Asdioh > Unvote
asianaussie
Shadow Moth > Asdioh
SangfroidWarrior > Asdioh
Tandora > Gheb
[/collapse][collapse=Edit Log]Edit 1: See 1507 below.[/collapse]

 

[Asdioh]

Asdioh [3]: SangfroidWarrior, Ranmaru, Shadow Moth

Oh, X1 isn't voting. And the bandwagon's smaller than I realized.

...hm.

@mod: it says [1] next to Gheb but it should be [2]

 

[Asdioh]

Have to go to work now. X1, why are you saying things like

We actually ARE lynching Asdioh toDay no **** and no messing about. We might be lynching Gheb tomorrow.

but you don't have the vote to back it up? We both know that bandwagons with more votes on them look meatier to the sheep wolves that like to jump on them.

 

[X1-12]

I wasn't aware it wasn't on you

Vote: Asdioh

 

[Asdioh]

Much better.

 

[~ Gheb ~]

JTB, why is your vote where it is?

 

[#HBC | Nabe]

@mod: it says [1] next to Gheb but it should be [2]

Error fixed.

 

[SangfroidWarrior]

@Asdioh. Who are your scum picks? IIRC, you've been giving us your town reads but I don't remember many of your scum reads. And, back them up, as well, please. If you already have just point out where I have missed.

 

[Vult Redux]

Vult, what's your scumlist?

Aussie's at the top, but this playerlist seems averse to floater-lynching (maybe this site is used to vigilantes cleaning up floaters? I wouldn't count on it in this game...). I'm pro- July's case against you. I think X1 is acting extremely erratically and I'm not feeling Town Gambit vibes from his behavior. Since you brought up Gova a few posts back I've been starting to read him as more scummy.

Tandora had picked up her player slot a bit and I feel a little better it now.

It is like, on one hand, I think lynching Gheb is a good move. But then that means we're letting AA and Ran and Smoth (I guess) continue sliding and that bothers me.

 

[Asdioh]

Is that seriously the only post that happened the entire time I was at work? ugh.

Sang, I'll respond to that tonight.

 

[Asdioh]

ebwop: suddenly vult redux

Hey Vult, if you want to lynch one of the three in your last line, I might be all for that. I'm strongly against a Gheb lynch right now, he's one of the few people left in the game that seems to be using his brain.

 

[~ Gheb ~]

i think x1 is acting extremely erratically and i'm not feeling town gambit vibes from his behavior.

?!?

 

[Vult Redux]

?!?

the useless information about his role that he's spilling for no reason, I mean.

 

[Vult Redux]

I'm strongly against a Gheb lynch right now, he's one of the few people left in the game that seems to be using his brain.

Is that all?

Someone can be invested into the game and still be scum. AND July's brought up some pretty good points (thought they can be looked at in different ways depending on how you assume the scumteam is set up). You read them yet? What did you think?

 

[~ Gheb ~]

Someone can be invested into the game and still be scum.

I'm pretty sure at this point Asdioh has seen the light though:

Gheb is town. If he's scum, and he's one of the few in the game with his head screwed on right, then just give scum the win, stop wasting our time with this disgusting inactive/replacetastic nastiness.