Halloween Party Mafia ~ Over! Who drowned bobbing for apples? Who won Best Costume?

[X1-12]

Gova you should also join on the Asdioh wagon if you're not already

 

[Shadow Moth]

Gheb is setting you up to be NKd imo. I would much prefer to lynch Gheb toDay because I have a stronger read on him, I will vote Asdioh before deadline though if Gheb lynch doesn't work for toDay.

I'm fine with this. I'd like to see Asdioh's flip before I solidify my read on Gheb, to be honest but if a Gheb lynch gains weight I won't oppose it.

@July: Lynch Asdioh with me. Gheb toMorrow fo' sho' then probably followed by Vult/JTB/Ran (dependent on whether any of them step their game up). We need this lynch to go through (and while I do agree it is ridiculously scummy of Gheb to try to force NL again, he's sufficiently capable of spouting enough bull**** and spreading dirt around before deadline to force the lynch away from him in this short time period.

IMO on an Asdioh scumflip I'd be more inclined to see Gheb as town. I can't really see them both as scum.

 

[July]

@X1: Ugggh you're killing me smalls. You really want the Asdioh lynch, I really want a Gheb lynch. I will support an Asdioh lynch and vote him before the deadline if Gheb lynch doesn't work out, but I don't want the Day to end right now anyways. I want to see a bit more of Shadow/Asdioh/Gheb and you/Vult, but I will be here before the deadline and vote Asdioh if you need me.

Do you think Asdioh and Gheb could both be scum?

 

[July]

IMO on an Asdioh scumflip I'd be more inclined to see Gheb as town. I can't really see them both as scum.

I'm considering what one flip means for the other. Is there any particular reason why you don't think both could be scum?

I think that Gheb has had Jdioh on and off his scum list but until recently when they both switched their reads to town on each other there wasn't much of a connection between them.

 

[X1-12]

Yes I do SMoth/July. Aside from the fact that like every game where Gheb is scum he makes a big deal of getting himself bussed, scum make no bones about pressuring each other when there's no harm of them getting lynched which is part of why I'd also still be up for looking at Ran/JTB after a GhebScum flip

 

[X1-12]

Low activity till Sunday JFYI. Make sure this lynch goes through

 

[Shadow Moth]

@July: the way they've been interacting just makes me feel like they're from different factions. Which is off-putting because I think both of them are scummy.

 

[July]

JTB replaced Acrostic? Yeah I would still look into JTB on that one, even though EBR and Gheb both pushed Acrostic, Kuz pushed his inactive scummates HARD in Celeb mafia and I have no doubt GhebScum would do so too.

 

[July]

@Shadow Moth: Kk, I was just wondering if there was anything you picked up on in particular since I haven't seen a strong connection between them. But yes they are both scum reads for me too, but they are scum reads independent of each other so I would still look into Gheb if Asdioh flipped scum and vice versa.

 

[Asdioh]

What's the point of this? To fire me up? Why would Town X1 want to do that?

he was clearly drunk lol

just got back from work, will read in a moment

 

[Asdioh]

And massclaiming costumes is DEFINITELY a bad idea. Nabe said the costumes have some connection to the real roles. Anyone who knows that connection could probably figure out all of town's PRs instantly.

...then why did X1, who claims to have figured out the theme, have asked me to claim my character shortly after I replaced in? :/

 

[Asdioh]

o.O What am I reading? Just because you sheeped with Swiss (and this is in your own words, too) you think we're gonna think you're town? Could you explain this logic to me?

Bleck. Honestly, if I'd been playing the whole game, and then just suddenly clung to Swiss and did whatever he said and said "hey guys look, I'm town" I would admit that's scummy.
But... I just can't see myself replacing into a scumslot and then bussing EBR (of all people) right off the bat, without even reading thoroughly for context.

Unless we're going off the assumption that mafia don't know their scummates, then there's nothing I can say about that.

Ironically that's the same thing J said about EBR

Someday one of you might know the pain of replacing into a J slot :mistyface:

So Asdioh has seen the light because he thinks you are town? SO now obviously Ran needs to die over Asdioh because of Moth's post...no no. You just don't want to lynch Asdioh because he thinks you are town, you've were appealing to him in your #1500 and now that he changed his read on you your read on him magically changes to town? Not buying it.

Did Gheb ever have a scumread on J/me? I get the feeling he thinks I'm town more than ever, but from since I replaced in, I don't remember him having a flatout scumread on me.

Also, Swiss went from having a Jscum read most of the game, to having a townread on me after just a couple of my posts, didn't he?

Yes I do SMoth/July. Aside from the fact that like every game where Gheb is scum he makes a big deal of getting himself bussed, scum make no bones about pressuring each other when there's no harm of them getting lynched which is part of why I'd also still be up for looking at Ran/JTB after a GhebScum flip

So you think EBR/Gheb/Ran scumteam, where everyone tries to bus Ran, and he tries to keep himself alive?

@Asdioh: If you are town, realize Gheb is manipulating you to help him stay alive and keep votes off his wagon.

If he wanted to stay alive, he could have voted for me instead of Ran. It's pretty obvious by now that my lynch was/is more likely than Ranmaru's.

 

[Shadow Moth]

Also, Swiss went from having a Jscum read most of the game, to having a townread on me after just a couple of my posts, didn't he?

I remember him calling J town at the end of D1.
Very badly playing town, but town none the less.

 

[Asdioh]

Rereading D3.

http://www.smashboards.com/showpost.php?p=13296118&postcount=1130 I already said I have a townread on RR and all, but this just solidifies it further. I see townie intent oozing from that post.

http://www.smashboards.com/showpost.php?p=13296632&postcount=1133 as far as AA content goes, that's pretty townie.

because i think swiss is town and think that he's right

i didn't make notes this game

if you don't like me doing this, why didn't you point it out yesterDay (i did almost precisely the same thing, dropping by, voting EBR and leaving to study)

Why is nobody giving AA crap for doing the same things as me </3


It's really weird how Gheb spent most of D3 questioning the EBR wagon, but EBR didn't do anything for himself.
... and then

Also, I find his recent avoidance of the thread / several points and his generally evasive nature much more problematic than anything you've mentioned. For how suspicious you all claim he is I find it amusing how I can easily find 2 scummy things about him right on the spot even though lynching him is not my main priority, while those who claim that he's scum struggle to give me anything worthwhile.
It feels like a lot of people - inactive or not - are not playing to their fullest but still go for what's convenient to them.

Gheb, respond to my #1344. Everyone else, read it as well and if you don't agree with the fact that Gheb was bull****ting all D2 and D3 about his read on EBR then tell me why.

Read my above quote. I think that's how Gheb felt about the EBR wagon.
I saw you quote older stuff where Gheb seemed wishy-washy about his EBR read. Idk how I feel about that, since I haven't read D2 yet, but it didn't look too good.

 

[Asdioh]

the time period between my last two posts is about how long it took me to reread d3. Bleck.

 

[Tandora]

Bleck. Honestly, if I'd been playing the whole game, and then just suddenly clung to Swiss and did whatever he said and said "hey guys look, I'm town" I would admit that's scummy.
But... I just can't see myself replacing into a scumslot and then bussing EBR (of all people) right off the bat, without even reading thoroughly for context.

Unless we're going off the assumption that mafia don't know their scummates, then there's nothing I can say about that.

WIFOM

Someday one of you might know the pain of replacing into a J slot :mistyface:

AtE

Did Gheb ever have a scumread on J/me? I get the feeling he thinks I'm town more than ever, but from since I replaced in, I don't remember him having a flatout scumread on me.

Also, Swiss went from having a Jscum read most of the game, to having a townread on me after just a couple of my posts, didn't he?

Buddying.

So you think EBR/Gheb/Ran scumteam, where everyone tries to bus Ran, and he tries to keep himself alive?

If he wanted to stay alive, he could have voted for me instead of Ran. It's pretty obvious by now that my lynch was/is more likely than Ranmaru's.

WIFOM.

Asdioh, you're making me doubt you with posts like these. =(

Why are you asking what Gheb or X1 are thinking to other people when those players are alive? And are you seriously going to ride on Swiss's reads for your innocence the rest of the game?

 

[Asdioh]

Moth ISO **** yeah!

http://www.smashboards.com/showpost.php?p=13266550&postcount=857
Moth, you said EBR was town allll game.

Literally your only interactions with EBR were these:

How about a real post, kuz?and

(hurr durr 1rst grade English).

*1st
Hurr durr 1st grade english.

I'd rather NL today than lynch EBR. I'm not moving my vote from swiss, so y'all might as well just vote him now.

Right now my top three scumpicks are Swiss, J, DH in that order.

Yeah, the SCUM team you have. Calling it right now. Scum team is Swiss, J, X1

He's been pretty consistent in his scumreads :| even if they're wrong.

Moth never, NEVER defended his town read on EBR except for "I thought he was town from his first post."

Then, once Swiss is dead, he finally concedes that EBR must be scum:

Just saw the swiss flip. If he's town I was sorely mistaken. Ryker's most likely scum then.

Vote: EBR

WHERE YOU AT, BRO?

As we all know, this was conveniently after EBR had died.

WHAT AM I READING.

http://www.smashboards.com/showpost.php?p=13320401&postcount=1353 then Swiss thinks Moth is 100% town just because of what EBR said, which is entirely WIFOM, as people kindly pointed out WRT me.





So basically, why the hell did I, or anyone, have a moth townread? What has he done this game? He was on the DH lynch D1. The sole person on the Swiss wagon D2. The sole person on the Swiss wagon D3. Now he's voting me.

I take back ever thinking X1 was scum, Moth is far scummier, and bristling toward X1, so I don't think they're scummates.

A Gheb lynch is NOT the best idea for toDay. Ranmaru or Moth are perfectly fine by me.

 

[Asdioh]

Why are you asking what Gheb or X1 are thinking to other people when those players are alive? And are you seriously going to ride on Swiss's reads for your innocence the rest of the game?

My respect for Swiss went up in this game.

And you can point practically everything in mafia out as WIFOM. I just showed how Moth obstinately stuck to a bull**** townread on EBR the entire game, with no justifciation, until he was dead. You could say it's WIFOM (why would scummates be so obvious??), I say it's scummy. You could say Gheb's fishing for town points, I say he's using his brain to get reads.

 

[Tandora]

My respect for Swiss went up in this game.

And you can point practically everything in mafia out as WIFOM. I just showed how Moth obstinately stuck to a bull**** townread on EBR the entire game, with no justifciation, until he was dead. You could say it's WIFOM (why would scummates be so obvious??), I say it's scummy. You could say Gheb's fishing for town points, I say he's using his brain to get reads.

I don't understand how you can honestly use Swiss' read on you to get town cred and then FOLLOW THE GUY SWISS SAID TO LYNCH NEXT. What is wrong with you?

Didn't Swiss also say that Ran is town? But you decide to trust the main suspect of the person you claim to respect?

 

[Asdioh]

I looked over Swiss' posts when rereading D3. He didn't even seem too sure what to do after EBR flipped scum.
I'm not gonna follow him in EVERYTHING >_>

 

[SangfroidWarrior]

Why is nobody giving AA crap for doing the same things as me </3

Just popping in to say this. At school and have to go soon but I will get to everything else later tonight. It's because you're actually here and he's not.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

I'll be caught up in a sec.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

my god...the reads I just read.

X1 and Asdioh, Gheb and Ran...like why?! Back up why these are buses right now, there is no reason to have a read like this unless you can back up why scum is voting each other. Sit down, shut up, and make yourselves useful. Stop sheeping others and tell me why you are even voting who you are.

I can't believe I read what I did at all.

I'm vote Ran, because he is being evasive, his reads are really really bad which I do not think is with town intent, and his initial questions had a huge red flag like I pointed out earlier.

Vote: Ranmaru

 

[Asdioh]

Just popping in to say this. At school and have to go soon but I will get to everything else later tonight. It's because you're actually here and he's not.

So all I have to do is lurk and sheep, and people will think I'm town?
I mean, I think AA is town and all, but that's a lame excuse.

X1 and Asdioh, Gheb and Ran...like why?! Back up why these are buses right now, there is no reason to have a read like this unless you can back up why scum is voting each other. Sit down, shut up, and make yourselves useful. Stop sheeping others and tell me why you are even voting who you are.

Are you asking the four of us why we're voting who we are?

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

I'm asking people what their thought process for those insane scum teams.

 

[#HBC | Nabe]

Votecount 4-4

7/13 to lynch.

Ranmaru [4]: Gheb, Asdioh, Vult Redux, Red Ryu
Asdioh [4]: SangfroidWarrior, Ranmaru, Shadow Moth, X1-12
Gheb [2]: July, Tandora


Not voting: Gova, JTB, asianaussie

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[collapse=Vote Log] X1-12 > Asdioh
Gova
JTB > X1 > Unvote
Gheb > Ranmaru
Red Ryu > Ranmaru
July > Gheb
Vult Redux > Ranmaru
Ranmaru > Asdioh
Asdioh > Unvote > Ranmaru
asianaussie
Shadow Moth > Asdioh
SangfroidWarrior > Asdioh
Tandora > Gheb
[/collapse]

Deadline is September 17th at 3 p.m. EST!

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Also I'm revealing the flavor before the deadline is over unless someone gives me a good reason not to.

 

[Asdioh]

I'm personally fine with that. I already used my guess toDay, so I won't be able to discover that I'm the Daycop until toNight if you reveal the flavor.

 

[X1-12]

RR its because its ****ing stupid to assume that because someone attacked someone else then they cant be scum together... Especially when they then retract that pressure at the crucial moment

 

[Asdioh]

Are we gonna do anything before deadline? I don't want another NL.
I'll take my own lynch before that happens, though I'd despise to ruin my unlynchable streak when I'm town. At least I'll have a non-replacement unlynchable streak still.

 

[~ Gheb ~]

I might switch to Asdioh if the vote is really needed that badly but I'd still rather have X1, Moth and Sang switch to Ranmaru first. Say whatever you want but at this point I'd rather lynch somebody else even if I knew Asdioh were scum just because this game is stupid and absolutely not fun to play. I'd rather have scumAsdioh around and have a fun game than lynch him and play with Ranmaru, Gova, aussie and JTB.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

RR its because its ****ing stupid to assume that because someone attacked someone else then they cant be scum together... Especially when they then retract that pressure at the crucial moment

Do you have evidense or something to suggest this is the case?

Or are you throwing out baseless claims.

~

Don't care anymore

The theme is "Harry Potter"

 

[Asdioh]

Do you have evidense or something to suggest this is the case?

Or are you throwing out baseless claims.

~

Don't care anymore

The theme is "Harry Potter"

ehhhh?

... ehhh?

did we all drink polyjuice potion? and have our memories erased?

 

[Asdioh]

just realized why that made me go "wtf"
every time I see the thread title, I kept thinking Harry Potter instead of halloween party. I thought about saying something about that in the thread, but I think I ended up mentioning that somewhere in skype or something.

there's no way, RR >=(

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Trust me it is.

If you watched the movies you'll see the Alice in wonderland has a Harry Potter character for the face, and the little hints are all reference Hogwarts Castle.

 

[~ Gheb ~]

Ryu is right - it is indeed Harry Potter.

 

[Asdioh]

well, that means that those that survive to d5, and are on the chopping block, will at least get the chance to claim.

 

[Asdioh]

The party guests settled into a slow second day. Many accusations flew back and forth, but after the disconcerting death of the first day, many seemed content to sit back and watch others instead, looking for some sign. Finally, the sun set over the dark foreboding forest on the horizon, and they all settled in for an uneasy night.


You are the prince of your mind, your own hallowed ground. Work some magic with those neurons and puzzle out your identity!

Night 2 begins and lasts 48 hours!
As usual, shoot me theme guesses and night actions.

I hate everything. I don't remember wooden towers though?

It cast shadows on the grassy field, shadows of far-off wooden towers.

Oh well. I know what I'll be guessing tonight

 

[~ Gheb ~]

I actually found it out toDay after seeing the "HP" in the thread title. "HP" was commonly used in past as a reference to Harry Potter mafia :3

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

I got it due to the Alive in Wonderland pic.

Gheb is X1 scum?