July, your post literally offers nothing to respond to. I can't remember how many times I criticized that kind of play in social / critique / theory discussions - if you want answers from me you should give me a chance to. Reading through your post it's basically an unnecessarily varnished case on me not being part of the EBR lynch. In my case it's not OK because I don't give you the reasoning you want to hear which you consider worse than offering no reasoning at all. There are lots of flaws and double-standards in that.
Really? READ MY ****ING POST. You could respond to:
What about my case on EBR did you think was fake, since you accused my case of being fake.
What changed between your #975 where you vote EBR and you seem open to the EBR lynch and your #980 where you hop on over to Acrostic? Why Acrostic at that time over all the other inactives, and why then when we were less than 24 hours away from a lynch?
Also you say this:
Would you join a lynch that you consider largely random if you believe you had a realistic chance to get somebody else lynched - somebody you find more suspect?
How was the EBR lynch "largely random" compared to you and EBR's proposed Acrostic wagon? Also to reiterate, there was NO realistic chance of getting someone else lynched. Also, you say you found Acrostic more suspect...when did those suspicions arise? Because your switch from EBR to Acrostic was completely unsubstantiated and mentioned no suspicions of Acrostic, as quoted here:
Unvote Vote Acrostic
Don't say there is nothing for you to respond to, you want to make up excuses after the fact of switching from EBR to Acrostic when at the time you had no substantiation and you just want to ignore anything against you because according to you we are singling you out for your role, or lack of a role in the EBR lynch. EXCEPT Asdioh is on the chopping block in part for the same reasons, I find his switch off of EBR D2 at the last minute and commitment to fighting EBR's lynch scummy as well, so don't act like you are such a victim here.
How is it manipulative? Do you know how many times I tell people to keep their points concise and clear rather than stretching them out to a point where it just becomes a drag to respond to? For somebody who apparently wants me to respond to stuff there isn't anything she actually gives me to debate against. If anything it's her that's being manipulative in this case - even if it's not on purpose.
There was stuff to respond to, where you did **** that was scummy I stated it. Where there are contradictions in your play or things that don't line up you have every right to try and explain them, the fact that you haven't is your own fought.
Wgat? I never said anything near that.
July's case essentially boils down to "he voted somebody other than EBR and prevented his lynch", which is something you can't expect me to defend against.
No no no, my point is that you consciously hoped off the EBR wagon which you supported a whole 5 ****ing posts before you hoped onto an Acrostic wagon which had no reason other than he was an inactive but then you retroactively apply meaning to it by saying that the EBR lynch was random, which contradicts what you said in your #795, and that Acrostic was more suspect, which contradicts your actions considering you voted him with no substantiation at the time in your #800 while there was plenty of reasons to suspect EBR and you even gave credence to some of those in your #795. Your actions are inconsistent and while you claimed you would get on the EBR wagon if necessary you showed both D2 and D3 you were opposed to the lynch and when it was necessary you still didn't care to switch your vote to EBR, so you lied about your feelings towards the EBR lynch as well and then snapped at everyone who pointed that out because apparently your vote was of better use on an inactive.
And I still don't see how I'm the main offender there or why I should be the only player pointed out in that context. It can't be the case that I must be scum for not voting EBR because that applies to like half of the people alive still and why people treat me different here is beyond me.
OMG this is frustrating, read my ****ing post.
YOU AND J are the ones who were here, you were on the wagon, and when it came down to EBR or a no lynch you bailed ship and switched the attention elsewhere. That's why YOU AND JDIOH are on the chopping block toDay. You are right that Shadow Moth didn't support the lynch when it came to deadline, but he NEVER did and NEVER pretended he would support it if it was EBR or no lynch. TCat, Ran and Acrostic were not here and if they are inactive they sure as hell can't vote. You can hold the inactivity against them, but not the fact that they didn't stop the no lynch because they weren't freaking here regardless of the lynching situation. Sang wasn't on the wagon D3 but D2 she made it very clear her vote was on EBR only to prevent a no lynch, and that was consistent with her reads.
YOU on the other hand came in, said you would help with the EBR wagon, then changed it 5 posts later to a wagon that was never going to ****ing happen and was based solely on his inactively, and then maintained it was for good reasons and Acrostic was suspicious the next Day even though you expressed no actual suspicions of him D2.
No, to problem is that her case is coming down to "Gheb is scum because he wanted to lynch somebody other than EBR". That's very far away from "having evidence" or anything close to that. It simply means that she interprets a fact [me voting for somebody else] in a manner that *demands* that I must be scum. That's not something that leaves any room for discussion or anything for me to answer - it's simply a flawed interpretation of what happened. That's the way she posted it and that's the way she thinks it is.
I just wonder how this can be enough to make me scum but allow her to be OK with Gova, Acrostic playrslot, Tcat playerslot and Shadow Moth among others. Are they all also scum for having their vote somebody else? There must be something that's different between them and me that makes me a worse offender than them but apparently I'm supposed to just take it for granted or something.
See the above points, I've already addressed all of these. Once again, there is stuff for you to explain, if you can't or don't want to that's your fault.
