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Gunner Style Discussion
- Thread starter GamerGuy09
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Do explain.
You can combo down throw into up air past like 80% and at like 130% its a kill
Not so guaranteed as I though needs more testing
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moofpi
Smash Journeyman
Especially if they're charging grenades as they land, they can keep sliding off platforms and everything. It's pretty great
Kantrip
Kantplay
moofpi
Smash Journeyman
Yeah let me find it later, I walked into a good Wii Fit vs Mii Gunner GF the other day but he switched characters. I'm pretty sure he went Gunner through most of the tourament though
Kantrip
Kantplay
Thanks, I appreciate it.
When I played, it wasn't on my wii u so I never bothered saving anything.
moofpi
Smash Journeyman
Here you go. It's the second match. Watch the whole thing though, legendary finish.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=25OttbVDNb8
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Cress!
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I've tried out Gunner more since the Splatoon outfits were announced, and I really like the playstyle! I'm currently using 1/4 height and max weight, with the moveset 3321. (I looked at the customs thread for a while before deciding.) But what are some general tips? Like kill options, combos, grab uses, etc?
moofpi
Smash Journeyman
Hey GS3K, you seem to be one of the only knowledgable and seemingly veteran Mii Gunners I see on this board. Do you play in tournies or anything? I'd like to see some videos of someone more familiar with Gunner than myself. I'm beating my friends and impressing myself in hype matches, but I'd like to see what Gunner can REALLY do when you know him/her like the back of your hand.
I haven't been able to, though I would if I could.
You can B-reverse right after shooting the grenade. There are also time periods where you're aiming 1 way but it doesn't show it on the screen. You just performed a grounded B-reverse, it just didn't show you aiming to the right by the time it released.
Here's something highly impractical - jump + bomb + footstool + dunkcannon
While you can barely see the footstool here, it's what keeps Mario from getting knocked back from the bomb blast.
Here's it slowed down. You can kinda see the footstool (pay close attention to Mario), but it happens quick before the up+b
While you can barely see the footstool here, it's what keeps Mario from getting knocked back from the bomb blast.
Here's it slowed down. You can kinda see the footstool (pay close attention to Mario), but it happens quick before the up+b
moofpi
Smash Journeyman
Do you follow someone on Vine or something for these?Here's something highly impractical - jump + bomb + footstool + dunkcannon
While you can barely see the footstool here, it's what keeps Mario from getting knocked back from the bomb blast.
Here's it slowed down. You can kinda see the footstool (pay close attention to Mario), but it happens quick before the up+b
moofpi
Smash Journeyman
Nice lab work mate
If you time it right, you can get an upsmash out of the grenade at low percents. At high percents, you can just dtilt or utilt before the last hit of the grenade, and they'll be launched with the utilt/dtilt knockback (actually seems like a little more).
Usmash misses if you are too close to the opponent/if the opponent is too low. The lower inside hitbox sends them even more inward, causing it to miss by the last two hits. This can be problematic if you're performing a running usmash as well. Running Usmash is okay if you hit them with the max horizontal reach. If they're close, you may need to hold the charge a bit.
Usmash misses if you are too close to the opponent/if the opponent is too low. The lower inside hitbox sends them even more inward, causing it to miss by the last two hits. This can be problematic if you're performing a running usmash as well. Running Usmash is okay if you hit them with the max horizontal reach. If they're close, you may need to hold the charge a bit.
You're doing something wrong if you aren't using attack stick with this character IMO.
moofpi
Smash Journeyman
Yeah, he's such a mobile character that you don't want to lose aerial momentum with smash c-stick, especially with gundashing, and his tilts are really quick and good anyway. Dtilt blows them away, Up tilt is crazy quick and effective, and Ftilt is a good get-off-me move.
The only thing I would regret missing is walking into dsmash, however walking into utilt is great, too.
moofpi
Smash Journeyman
Reflector would be very important, especially with his slingshot spam from the ledge and that when the reflector actually reflects something there is almost no end lag to the move.
But also keep in mind the bombs. Their special trajectory is crucial on a ledge stalling No-skillager since they lose their ledge invincibility. Yes it could be argued that grenades have a similar trajectory/effect and cover that situation, but I feel it's more telegraphed than the bomb which can slip out so discreetly during movements. Also I don't know if the bomb gets launched back at you after being pocketed, but I assume a grenade would.
Either way, keep grenades on neutral B.
I would keep the Up-B that launches up with a punch and dunks down with the boots. If you happen to get on the ledge when he's grabbed it without invincibility and you do a grounded Up-B, it extends the hitbox on the ledge allowing for a big opportunity to meteor him.
Also the PK Fire Side-B would be good for walling out projectiles for a moment or also to run to ledge > reverse Side-B>ledge grab for a trump > follow up if the counter sapling disappears before he reacts. I feel like missiles could get pocketed too easily or beaten by other projectiles.
metroidfan987
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Gunner is the best imo. Tbh, I haven't tested my set against human players yet, but I have been testing against Lv 9 cpus and two of my Amiibos. I have Mario, Bowser, Pikachu, and Sonic currently. My main set is grenade, missiles (thinking of switching to flame pillar), Lunar Launch, and Bomb Drop. The only cpu that gave me trouble so far was Mario, mainly because of his cape disrupting my CC moves. Yoshi was kinda smart too, but so far most of the other cpus get stumped by the erratic patterns of the grenades and bombs lol. As for the amiibos, I tested Sonic and Bowser. Sonic is scary, but I still manage to keep him at bay with well-timed grenades and bombs. But the Bowser amiibo doesn't do very well. My Bowser amiibo currently has the habit of spamming his fireball, so I switched to Absorbing Vortex and actually managed to shut him out in a stock match lol.
As for the Brawler and Swordfighter - the brawler has strong attacks, but pitiful range, and the swordfighter is the worst. Due to the Mii's small size, the sword attacks do not have the range a swordfighter should have, and the smash attacks do not have as much knockback as the gunner and brawler's smash attacks.
As for the Brawler and Swordfighter - the brawler has strong attacks, but pitiful range, and the swordfighter is the worst. Due to the Mii's small size, the sword attacks do not have the range a swordfighter should have, and the smash attacks do not have as much knockback as the gunner and brawler's smash attacks.
BlueTerrorist
Smash Ace
I been getting Top 5 consistently with Gunner in tourneys nowadays.
moofpi
Smash Journeyman
moofpi
Smash Journeyman
Sucks we have almost no jab lock game though.
I'm trying to find a use for this footstool shine. And also, I've been very footstool-happy recently, I need to stop that.
If your timing is off, this happens.
I figured if you have a fully charged charge shot, you could try to shine them off near the edge in KO percents, then try to hit them with a charge shot/dtilt while they recover.
If your timing is off, this happens.
I figured if you have a fully charged charge shot, you could try to shine them off near the edge in KO percents, then try to hit them with a charge shot/dtilt while they recover.
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That's definitely quite interesting. I'm trying to learn more kill setups. I'm liking using homing missile against airborne opponents. Grenade can also be combod out of, but it takes some setting up. Jab cancels are also positional since utilt has such little horizontal range and jab-> dtilt may need to be frame perfect.
Saw BlueTerrorist's Gunner in videos, it is indeed improving steadily
Saw BlueTerrorist's Gunner in videos, it is indeed improving steadily
BlueTerrorist
Smash Ace
I wasn't on stream a lot so I only have losing matches and not me doing good in other matches.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UdAdoGaGpds&list=PLz7rkkbQbM0nC9vmTJPANWgaMoFumY7ER&index=14 Vs. WFT (John Numbers)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=haL3RYodNeQ&index=19&list=PLz7rkkbQbM0nC9vmTJPANWgaMoFumY7ER Vs Lucario/HelpR (1st match only... Though I probably should have stayed Gunner).
This was my 2nd tourney with Gunner. Been told to drop Sonic and Greninja for Gunner because some felt my Gunner was my best character. Regardless, I should rely on Fair a lot more. My poking and baiting was more safer than using nades predominately. I don't think I used Gundashing as well as I hoped, I'm pretty sure I can be more mobile than this. Killing is hard with this character admittedly but I've been working on it.
My Gunner is improving fast I feel. The next major one is Smash Attack at Next Level. Hope I can get my Gunner on Team Spooky's stream at some point :3.
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