[Guide] - Buffered Dash Attack Locks (Updated 6/27) - Now With Video

[Supermodel From Paris]

The buffered dash attacks need to be perfectly done in a video that will be used for demonstrative purposes. So if you could tighten those up a lot that would be great.

Also, the extraneous stuff in the video, the throws and side-b movestrings aren't true combos and are superfluous. I'd get rid of those too.

 

[ohaiduhg]

The buffered dash attacks need to be perfectly done in a video that will be used for demonstrative purposes. So if you could tighten those up a lot that would be great.

Also, the extraneous stuff in the video, the throws and side-b movestrings aren't true combos and are superfluous. I'd get rid of those too.

Alright can do. This will take longer than a couple days.XD

Give me a list of characters you want to see. I'm obviously not going to do every single character in the game for every % and everything.O_O

Characters/Percentages/FreshDA/DecayedDA give me whatever amount and I'll do it. I've got a lot of time on my hands and I've always wanted to get one of these types of videos made perfectly.

 

[Supermodel From Paris]

Alright can do. This will take longer than a couple days.XD

Give me a list of characters you want to see. I'm obviously not going to do every single character in the game for every % and everything.O_O

Characters/Percentages/FreshDA/DecayedDA give me whatever amount and I'll do it. I've got a lot of time on my hands and I've always wanted to get one of these types of videos made perfectly.

D3 is a good example. He starts at 26% and runs until 130%ish if decayed. Otherwise, it's up to you. A few percentages: 9, 16, 23, 26, 49. These are percentages that most of the cast starts at. It also works pretty well on Falco. Also I'd recommend taking that video offline for now until we have one we can really show.

 

[Supermodel From Paris]

A few statistics:

Start values are fresh, end values are decayed and, sadly, approximate (no way to get exact values...) unless otherwise noted:

Format: character, start, end

MK, 9, 115 (50 fresh)
D3, 26, 130
ROB, 47, 115
Marth, 47, 112
Snake, 47, 112
Olimar, 9, 115 (50 fresh)

 

[Nefarious B]

This isn't even that hard to do, you just need a very light flick on the controller. Getting that down also helped my CG buffering too.

 

[ohaiduhg]

A few statistics:

Start values are fresh, end values are decayed and, sadly, approximate (no way to get exact values...) unless otherwise noted:

Format: character, start, end

MK, 9, 115 (50 fresh)
D3, 26, 130
ROB, 47, 115
Marth, 47, 112
Snake, 47, 112
Olimar, 9, 115 (50 fresh)

Those will be ones I work on first then.

This isn't even that hard to do, you just need a very light flick on the controller. Getting that down also helped my CG buffering too.

Mastering how to do it and making it work are completely different.D:
lol

 

[Nefarious B]

how's that

all you have to do is master it then memorize the starting percents

 

[ohaiduhg]

how's that

all you have to do is master it then memorize the starting percents

and land it perfectly and know the percents of every character for every spot the DA can hit with. Usually just the tip of it, but it's harder than it sounds imo.

 

[FadedImage]

This isn't even that hard to do, you just need a very light flick on the controller. Getting that down also helped my CG buffering too.

this is super super important. lol

it took me like 15 minutes to figure out how to properly buffer the dash. ):

hey, here's a good way to test if you're doing it right: Dash attack to the edge, if you're doing the dash attack animation, you won't fall off the edge. Buffer the dash attack, if you do it properly, you'll stay on the stage, if you mess up, you'll fall off. See how long you can dash attack without messing up!

 

[ThreeSided]

this is super super important. lol

it took me like 15 minutes to figure out how to properly buffer the dash. ):

hey, here's a good way to test if you're doing it right: Dash attack to the edge, if you're doing the dash attack animation, you won't fall off the edge. Buffer the dash attack, if you do it properly, you'll stay on the stage, if you mess up, you'll fall off. See how long you can dash attack without messing up!

Lol. It gives quite the incentive to do it right considering that assuming you're using down on the C-stick, I assume mess up means Dairing to your death. xD

 

[noradseven]

this is super super important. lol

it took me like 15 minutes to figure out how to properly buffer the dash. ):

hey, here's a good way to test if you're doing it right: Dash attack to the edge, if you're doing the dash attack animation, you won't fall off the edge. Buffer the dash attack, if you do it properly, you'll stay on the stage, if you mess up, you'll fall off. See how long you can dash attack without messing up!

Too bad the timing is slightly different on hit :D.

 

[ThreeSided]

Too bad the timing is slightly different on hit :D.

Oh snap.
BUUUUUUURRN.

 

[noradseven]

Oh snap.
BUUUUUUURRN.

Its true hit-lag does that.

 

[ThreeSided]

Its true hit-lag does that.

Yeah, I just tried the on-the-edge thing. If I'm not mistaken, the time to buffer is actually less if you aren't hitting anyone.

That, or I'm doing the buffer all wrong. =(

 

[noradseven]

Yeah, I just tried the on-the-edge thing. If I'm not mistaken, the time to buffer is actually less if you aren't hitting anyone.

That, or I'm doing the buffer all wrong. =(

Its the same its just a few frames earlier.

 

[ThreeSided]

Its the same its just a few frames earlier.

Sounds like I'm sucking then...

 

[ohaiduhg]

The offedge idea is a good idea. Doing it enough times you see exactly where to input the next move. The hitlag makes sense why doing it is easier on an opponent than the air.

 

[FadedImage]

yeah, hitlag affects it a little bit, but the practice is just to get the timing of the control stick / c-stick tapping for me.

same thing works for dash grabs, d;

 

[Supermodel From Paris]

I updated the thread OP. It's now a small guide. If you guys really want a character list or feel anything is unclear let me know.

 

[Snail]

This looks pretty cool actually. Nice find o.o

 

[ThreeSided]

YAY! I CAN DO IT NOW! =D

I was actually just doing it a bit later than I had to. I can do it fairly consistently now.

EDIT: I'm going to try and see if any other characters have a similar mechanic on their DAs.

 

[Supermodel From Paris]

YAY! I CAN DO IT NOW! =D

I was actually just doing it a bit later than I had to. I can do it fairly consistently now.

EDIT: I'm going to try and see if any other characters have a similar mechanic on their DAs.

I checked, the only one is CF's when decayed. Fresh it doesn't work and even when decayed it only works a few times. Still funny though.

 

[noradseven]

I checked, the only one is CF's when decayed. Fresh it doesn't work and even when decayed it only works a few times. Still funny though.

Still its p. rad, and on peopel like falco it can be p.useful.

 

[Hence]

Samus Knee is a better name for this, I'm sad it had to be taken.

 

[Supermodel From Paris]

Samus Knee is a better name for this, I'm sad it had to be taken.

I don't think anyone is actually going to call it "Dazlock."

 

[ThreeSided]

I don't think anyone is actually going to call it "Dazlock."

I honestly like "The Daz-Attack". :3

 

[sasook]

I don't think anyone is actually going to call it "Dazlock."

I would =P

 

[ThreeSided]

"I was at a tourney the other day. I went up against a Snake. I Fthrow chain grabbed him to 50%, and then Daz-Attacked him off the edge for 100%, then finished Dsmash>bair stage spike."


^ this

 

[noradseven]

Samus Knee is a better name for this, I'm sad it had to be taken.

inazuma KICK

Thats what her dash attack reminds me of.

edit: I forgot that IS Zeldas move I knew something was wrong.

 

[Nefarious B]

I will definitely say you just got dazlocked, how does it feel? everytime i pull it off

 

[Supermodel From Paris]

It seems I was wrong: these do in fact begin later if the attack is stale.

 

[Jski]

I cant tell if i am doing it or not is there a different look when you do it right vs just doing another dash attk right after the first ends?

 

[FadedImage]

I cant tell if i am doing it or not is there a different look when you do it right vs just doing another dash attk right after the first ends?

try my method:

hey, here's a good way to test if you're doing it right: Dash attack to the edge, if you're doing the dash attack animation, you won't fall off the edge. Buffer the dash attack, if you do it properly, you'll stay on the stage, if you mess up, you'll fall off. See how long you can dash attack without messing up!

 

[noradseven]

I cant tell if i am doing it or not is there a different look when you do it right vs just doing another dash attk right after the first ends?

Alternatively get a friend make them hold guard. Or tape guard button down on second controller, and go in training mode, and try it out, you might have to turn the damage to like 30-40% on some characters, though because it doesn't work on some people at 0%.

 

[PK-ow!]

The OP says there's no way to get exact End values.

Why is that?

We know how stale move negation works exactly.

 

[Supermodel From Paris]

The OP says there's no way to get exact End values.

Why is that?

We know how stale move negation works exactly.

I didn't know that, but it's also not worth trying to figure out, really. Maybe when I have some free time.

 

[ThreeSided]

Alright, well something just occurred to me... VS Diddy Kong, would a banana trip constitute an automatic Dazlock (provided you can do it right and he's at the right percentage,and are close enough of course)? If so, that's just freakin' awesome. Not to mention that if there's a banana in your way, you'll pick it up, which is always useful to have on hand. =)

 

[Hence]

I'm pretty sure you can't DA chain Diddy Kong.

 

[noradseven]

A nanner trip is p. much a free d-smash sooo.

 

[Supermodel From Paris]

I'm pretty sure you can't DA chain Diddy Kong.

I think you can if they don't have bananas out.