I am not platinum but I am willing to play.
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DallasPhat
Smash Master
Yeah I'm down to play as well.
That's assuming I make the cut, of course 
I should have a decent bunch of mastery pages worked out by then.
BTW, DPhat, Tiger Udyr jungle might be worth revisiting again. If you build him 21-0-9 and with some AD pages (and still getting swiftness in utility), his Tiger stance will probably shred some kids and jungle mobs.
I should have a decent bunch of mastery pages worked out by then.BTW, DPhat, Tiger Udyr jungle might be worth revisiting again. If you build him 21-0-9 and with some AD pages (and still getting swiftness in utility), his Tiger stance will probably shred some kids and jungle mobs.
If you play no trolling k?
MacD
Banned via Administration
pick me pick me, sounds like it'd be fun
Irelia reduces almost 90% cc duration with Mercs, full passive, Juggernaut, and active cleanse LOL
active cleanse alone is pretty ******** for CC redux.
Zolga Owns
Smash Lord
Is it really 90%? Oh god.
it's 87.715%, but who's keeping track?
I mean, active cleanse + tenacity alone is 77.25%.
I mean, active cleanse + tenacity alone is 77.25%.
DallasPhat
Smash Master
Ugh tiger stance would be better if the active proc was physical. I still think Phoenix is better and probably clear the jungle alot faster. The 3 hit proc is too good and added ad+ap is ridiculous and his built in passive benefits Phoenix more anyways.
Phoenix too good. AOE proc every 3 hits that doesn't get used up 1 time making you reapply the stance like tiger stance proc forces you to do. Mini Sunfire Cape and other stuff also nice.
Phoenix also works better with tanky wits end build you see more on Udyr over the older tanky AD stuff.
Phoenix also works better with tanky wits end build you see more on Udyr over the older tanky AD stuff.
Phoenix will still clear faster, but Tiger Udyr ganks would hit impossibly hard (even moreso than prior).
@Thio - B/c there is nothing you can do at all to Olaf, since he gets damage and **** from building tons of health and resist, and he does more damage than Irelia.
@Thio - B/c there is nothing you can do at all to Olaf, since he gets damage and **** from building tons of health and resist, and he does more damage than Irelia.
If Olaf is this OP maybe I can actually play him again, then. Used to main him until EVERYBODY ELSE WAS BETTER. Time to abuse the OP.
@udyr talk: Tiger stance ganks are SO MUCH BETTER. Prep tiger proc -> Swap to bear to land stun + proc + tiger stance again for a second tiger proc.
A Pimp Named Slickback
Smash Lord
olaf gets percentage damage reduction on top of a ****ton of health
not to mention free lifesteal and huge AS buffs if he gets low
is cleanse worth it on him?
not to mention free lifesteal and huge AS buffs if he gets low
is cleanse worth it on him?
Zero_Gamer
Smash Master
Fizz is retardedly strong.
Also, Olaf gets a flat damage reduction.
Also, Olaf gets a flat damage reduction.
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so I guess until I get a better understanding of the game on my own. probably going to stop playing with people way better than me.
you guys make everything seem like its a mistake. and its stupid because usually we will already be ****ting on the other team already so i don't see the need for me to be the "perfect" janna or whatever character I'm playing at the time anyway.
you guys make everything seem like its a mistake. and its stupid because usually we will already be ****ting on the other team already so i don't see the need for me to be the "perfect" janna or whatever character I'm playing at the time anyway.
Yeah. Use ult, they try to save CC, then you use cleanse. Like 10+ seconds of CC immunity.
A Pimp Named Slickback
Smash Lord
sorry flat damage reduction.
also man up and take it. i miss when my friends were better than me and they taught me **** all the time. now we're more or less on the same level of play and it's hard for me to get better.
also man up and take it. i miss when my friends were better than me and they taught me **** all the time. now we're more or less on the same level of play and it's hard for me to get better.
Olaf is absolutely silly with Ghost+Ghostblade+Ult+Cleanse.
Like there is absolutely nothing you can freaking do to him. Two ghosts and two ults whenever you fight.
Also, ult passive+arpen reds+Ghostblade+offense masteries puts you at over 70 flat armor pen. SO SILLY. Exhaust? **** THAT.
And I'm telling ya... CDR Olaf is even stupider than regular Olaf. Your Q actually has an okay cooldown even when you don't pick it up, you have infinite slow when you do pick it up, E is on 2.4 sec cooldown, 60 sec ult cooldown... uuuuugh its so ********.
Sure Irelia has a gap closer... but knockups and knockbacks still **** her over and Olaf does *** tons more damage when he does get in.
Don't know a good mastery page for him yet though. Just tried 21/1/8 grabbing the AD, %arpen and flat arpen, lifesteal, CDR, Havoc and Executioner, utility for the movespeed, and both improvements for ghost and cleanse. Stomped Jax up top hardstyle, went straight for Xerath every fight before going on Cait. Too good.
And who needs Mercs? Just gonna go Boots of Swiftness next game and not give a single ****. Faster Olaf is scarier Olaf.
Like there is absolutely nothing you can freaking do to him. Two ghosts and two ults whenever you fight.
Also, ult passive+arpen reds+Ghostblade+offense masteries puts you at over 70 flat armor pen. SO SILLY. Exhaust? **** THAT.
And I'm telling ya... CDR Olaf is even stupider than regular Olaf. Your Q actually has an okay cooldown even when you don't pick it up, you have infinite slow when you do pick it up, E is on 2.4 sec cooldown, 60 sec ult cooldown... uuuuugh its so ********.
Sure Irelia has a gap closer... but knockups and knockbacks still **** her over and Olaf does *** tons more damage when he does get in.
Don't know a good mastery page for him yet though. Just tried 21/1/8 grabbing the AD, %arpen and flat arpen, lifesteal, CDR, Havoc and Executioner, utility for the movespeed, and both improvements for ghost and cleanse. Stomped Jax up top hardstyle, went straight for Xerath every fight before going on Cait. Too good.
And who needs Mercs? Just gonna go Boots of Swiftness next game and not give a single ****. Faster Olaf is scarier Olaf.
Probably 9-21-0 on Olaf... just because you can. Get the Armor Pen and then just reduce all damage from everything.
MacD
Banned via Administration
improved recall???
seems nice but at the same time kinda pointless.... idk
and i have 0/0/30 on my support page right now
trying to make pages is so hard now
seems nice but at the same time kinda pointless.... idk
and i have 0/0/30 on my support page right now
trying to make pages is so hard now
Zolga Owns
Smash Lord
Making pages is so...hard now. Every point feels like it does something important and it's so difficult to choose.
DallasPhat
Smash Master
Play udyr only, 0-21-9 mastery set. I don't even think i have another mastery page lol.
Watching Saintvicious jungle Fizz and I can see why they made him a mage...
We would be so much better if he scaled on AD with his ability to jungle, and even without ad scaling he seems to work very well on standard bruiser builds.
We would be so much better if he scaled on AD with his ability to jungle, and even without ad scaling he seems to work very well on standard bruiser builds.
I have 8 already. 2 for casters, a bunch of AD. A tanky jungler page, and a support page.
9-5-16 on Nocturne for Awareness. Not sure if that's worth it or not yet, but I feel like six is strong as him.
9-5-16 on Nocturne for Awareness. Not sure if that's worth it or not yet, but I feel like six is strong as him.
How is damage reduction calculated?
Like if Olaf went into defense, what would the order of calculation be from armor/mr, honor guard mastery, and his ult?
Like if Olaf went into defense, what would the order of calculation be from armor/mr, honor guard mastery, and his ult?
DallasPhat
Smash Master
Prior to the patch i already ran udyr as 1-14-15 (for the improved run speed), so this patch now allows me to go full tank (mastery wise) while having even more run speed. (Overall a buff for my udyr play style)
not sure if it still works this way, but previously it's has always done Armor/MRes reduction first, followed by flat reduction from stuff like Amumu E/Defensive Masteries (which is why amumu would frequently take 0 from small jungle camps once his E got leveled up).
Offensive is superior for tiger, movespeed and defensive is superior for phoenix.
Mmm.
I still don't like Phoenix udyr, but TO EACH THEIR OWN I suppose.
Also why jungle Udyr when you could jungle Riven
If you run both through the jungle, record their finishing times and remaining health, it becomes evident that Phoneix stance is slightly more efficient at jungling than Tiger stance.
After the new masteries changes, though, I have no idea how it works out.
Phoenix is still more efficient and faster/better for pushing, but Tiger does more instant DPS which can be quite significant with Executioner, and he doesn't lose out on ALL the ms (b/c he can grab swiftness with just 9 in utility).
Tiger ganks >>> Phoenix ganks
not by much tbh.
I mean, usually udyr comes with bear and red buff and then they die or they flash and don't die. With his absurd CC and chasing, you don't need to rely on his damage usually, so it's not a huge difference. I rarely think, "OMG, if dphat were going tiger, we would've gotten that kill!"
DallasPhat
Smash Master
No you're more like "dphat wtf why you bait me at red."
y u bate me at red dphat!?
What if you're ganking top lane 0/21/9 olaf with ghost/cleanse huh